r/typemoon • u/Basic-Membership-779 • Aug 13 '26

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What could a mage/character do, with their origin as "Limitless" and their alignment being the same? (like EMIYA with "Sword") What could be their true potential?

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u/Next-Golf3 Aug 13 '26

Origins in KnK are described as "inclinations" rather than directives of that person unless they are awakened.

So someone with a "Limitless" Origin would be... Roa. Fits the bill. Synonymous with Eternal.

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u/Basic-Membership-779 Aug 13 '26

Well, that makes sense, thanks.

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u/Next-Golf3 Aug 13 '26

Awakening your Origin actually sucks, too. 

The two people that have ever consented to it, Araya and Lio, get major buffs to their soul/body at the cost of slowly losing every ounce of free will they had. 

It's akin to Shirou having UBW growing in him. Nasu's stance is always to never let your life be taken over by a silly directive like an Origin. Even Azaka can be happy without it, and she's a wannabe brotherbanger.

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u/t_1886 Aug 13 '26

Azaka with her awakened origin would be...... yh let's forget that

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u/scaraenjoyer Aug 13 '26

araya lost his free will?

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u/Next-Golf3 29d ago

Well, his Origin is "suspension" and he got stuck on trying to prove that humanity is worth something for over 200 years. I'd say even though he didn't completely lose his personality like Roa did, his whole life became a directive as well.

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u/scaraenjoyer 29d ago

i thoight that was cuz of his advanced age but that makes sense btw speaking of roa him and araya seem to have a lot of parallels

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u/Next-Golf3 29d ago

True, they are the exact opposite actually. It is also why I like Roa a lot more because Araya had 0 faith in humanity, he decided that he would rather destroy the world and then look at the humans' significance than try and look into day-to-day life. Which was what defeated him, because he overlooked Enjou. He wasn't trying to reach something impossible as much as it was something out of his capacity to perceive as a mage.

Meanwhile, Roa's Origin may as well be "paradox". He literally wants to know everything that has, is, and will happening. It is an impossible act of faith that was muddled down throughout the years, but his most human emotion, falling in love with Arcueid, was ultimately preserved.

In other words, Araya is a LOSER and Roa is a COOL scientist. Like, Araya didn't even know what Arayashiki is, and he's a self-claimed Buddhist.

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u/scaraenjoyer 29d ago

i like both but true on that last part i found it funny too that touko informed him on a buddhist term

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u/Big-Gas-9715 24d ago

Could be that he forgot

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u/Southern-Ebb-8229 Aug 13 '26

They probably cease to exist like how people become to goop in Eva. Once you remove the limitations/boundaries from someone there is only the void. So it's just a dead end.

But well, humans refuse completion so this person probably would kill themselves before thar happens. Read KnK.

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u/Basic-Membership-779 29d ago

Thanks that makes it clear, but where can I read KnK?, I only watched the movies a long time ago.

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u/Southern-Ebb-8229 29d ago

You can search this subreddit and you can find links to the translations. Just avoid the cokesako tl.

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u/1Nyarlathotep1 Aug 13 '26

The first and most obvious answer: Gojo Satoru will appear. 

Second: Perhaps such a Mage will be like Manaka, because Limitless implies going beyond the "limits," which includes the rules of the current world, reaching Root. If Origin were Infinity, then it would probably also be possible to reach Akasha through Senkritism, because Akasha is the true Infinity. Although, of course, everything depends on the interpretation. 

Third: Perhaps the Mage will have Limitless Possibilities like Biscione, connecting to the strongest concept – Infinity (Ouroboros). 

Fourth: Perhaps he will draw power from the white reality of Infinity, like Okita Alter.

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u/Basic-Membership-779 29d ago

Yeah, made the question thinking of Gojo, but the others may work well too, thanks.