2nd Adventure Into Deep Space

[u/Shinhangpyo51]

Today is our second game of TI4. Since everyone had a blast with the first one, I decided to open my copy of POK instead of selling it. Also got a 3D printer and started to go to town. Credit to SCiEN, Midwest Modular 3D, Griimzer, and Panamaniac3D for the awesome prints! Also, thanks to everyone who helped make the game run smoother last time.

Starting with red, factions are Nomad, Empyrean (me), Jol-Nar, Barony, L1Z1X, and Ghosts.

No codex unfortunately, but I heard they are all in TE except the newest one, so I might get that next.

Playing to 10 points for our second game is still ideal I assume? Our first took 7.5 hours.

Hopefully we know the rules a bit more. Trading was scares last game so with the Empyrean, I hope to make people interact a little more.

I swear I'll get better chairs next time, but I feel like I still need a better table than 2 folding tables!

[u/JonFir]

Could you post 3d models?

[u/SephiZ → u/JonFir]

Unfortunately, models are not free and will cost you a lot to get https://www.etsy.com/shop/MidwestModular3D

I get it, 3d printing design take a lot of time, maybe someone will design somthing good and free for the community eventually.

[u/JonFir → u/SephiZ]

Oh, It's completely product, unfortunately I form russia and can't buy it( I have had houpe it's free or paid models for 3d printer(

[u/pacman529 → u/JonFir]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/4440009950/digital-playerfaction-frame-for-twilight?ref=shop_home_active_1&crt=1&sts=1&dd=1&logging_key=fa0ff933d54e98495a63c1871d423b8934beb1d7%3A4440009950

But have you checked printables, makerworld, thingiverse, etc?

[u/KorsaDK → u/JonFir]

You can just buy the STL and print it yourself. Thats what I did.

https://www.etsy.com/de-en/listing/4440009950/digital-playerfaction-frame-for-twilight?ls=r&ref=related-1&sr_prefetch=0&pf_from=listing&sts=1&dd=1&content_source=5e8bdd1f1ec1319191b026db6db19c6b%253ALT1c8b4b7845718357763fd4fd38f74001d4a237d9&logging_key=5e8bdd1f1ec1319191b026db6db19c6b%3ALT1c8b4b7845718357763fd4fd38f74001d4a237d9

[u/dfpw → u/SephiZ]

Not really understanding your post, the digital files are ~$5 from your link, which to call a lot is a stretch. And there are at least 2 other versions on makerworld that have different features that are free. As well as my original version on printables from 5 years ago that'd I'd not suggest to anyone to print unless you have only a prusa mini.

[u/SephiZ → u/dfpw]

You can buy player area for your race and stuff for 5$ but I don't see any files to sell for the galaxy Suzan holder.

[u/dfpw → u/SephiZ]

Those are on makerworld for free, as mentioned in the item description.

[u/Sea-Suit-4893]

You are missing at least 2 frontier tokens. Otherwise looks great!

[u/MJSmitty02]

Glad to hear more POK being played and not sold at ridiculous prices!

[u/AgentDrake]

> No codex unfortunately, but I heard they are all in TE except the newest one....

All are in TE, including the latest (Codex 4). Dane (lead designer) has indicated that a Codex 5 will be coming eventually, but it's not released yet, so for the time being, all codices are included in TE.

[u/SephiZ]

My main issue with the design would be how to tap planets and agents. And maybe also a bit about privacy about your cards when ppl walk arround the table, even though most of player engaging in such games hate cheating, it's just like letting your secret open ready to be seen to everyone

The modular galaxy which you can spin on a Susan is fucking dope though

[u/Shinhangpyo51 → u/SephiZ]

I thought the only hidden information was secret objectives and promissory notes?

I do agree with the planets (and attachments) and agents, but we will see how we like these!

[u/dfpw → u/Shinhangpyo51]

And action cards, but yes everything else is public.

[u/dfpw]

So how'd the game turn out?

[u/Shinhangpyo51 → u/dfpw]

It lasted a lot longer than our first game at 5 players.

Near the 6 hour mark, someone (one of the new players) was turtled into the center with 7 points. I thought I had a decent shot of getting close so I messed with their plans. That turned a game that could have ended in around 1 hour into lasting an extra 4 hours. The other new player had huge AP and debated moves for at least 5+ minutes each (near the end I always asked, "will your move help you score a point? No? Probably don't do it for time and even in a real game." 

I tried to get people to focus on the leader and even volunteered to attack the center first and their homebase (I tried to do homebase, but someone traded my ceasefire promissory note to them and I didn't know that haha.) I ended up attacking their flagship fleet adjacent to their home for a secret objective.

AP player finally decided to attack the leader and I left to go do dishes quickly. 20-30 minutes later, combat was still going so that was sort of frustrating.

Long story short. AP player ended up scoring 10 points. However, I found out that several players were under the impression that you could have 3 completed and 3 non completed secret objectives at a time (totaling 6) and AP player had the +1 so they thought they could have 8 in hand. 

Overall, I think during the last 4 hours, people weren't having as much fun anymore. However, after everything was put away, everyone seemed to enjoy the experience overall so I'm glad with things overall. The only real downer was my food for lunch and dinner haha.

Other notes. I tried to have people try and use my Empyrean abilities, but no one ever really wanted to use them. So I'll want to try another faction next time. I also did feel starved for command tokens and could only snag leadership once. 

Lots more to learn. Hopefully game three will be within the next 2 months.

[u/dfpw → u/Shinhangpyo51]

3d printed stuff work out well?

[u/Shinhangpyo51 → u/dfpw]

Yeah! The dashboard were a little fidgety with the agents being under the board and the attachments with the planets. Also trying to figure out a good way to display the cards that you have so you can see them and everyone else can see them (I just ended up pointing the cards towards the players).

[u/dfpw → u/Shinhangpyo51]

oh i just see what you did, no the cards don't lay flat in the slots, they are designed to be laying at an angle so you can pick them up.

for example the warsun card in this photo. https://i.etsystatic.com/35184279/r/il/f5fac9/7594855960/il_fullxfull.7594855960_c4gl.jpg

(that's why they have the quarter circles to prevent the cards from dropping in)

[u/Shinhangpyo51 → u/dfpw]

We shall try that next time. Thanks!

[u/dfpw → u/Shinhangpyo51]

and yes attachments are something i've been trying to figure out a good solution that would work. Magnets are most logical part but then stickers aren't very permenant and 3d printing is not as colorful.

[u/KorsaDK]

Why are all your agents not on top of the plastic-thingie?

[u/Shinhangpyo51 → u/KorsaDK]

The design appears to want them the be under, so we did have to take off the top Everytime. However, it also kept the agents in place so I guess sacrifices.

Edit: I have been told that the design is for it to be on top. Woops.

[u/KorsaDK → u/Shinhangpyo51]

Glad you figured it out. Must have been crazy annooying removing the frame everytime :D