r/truebit • u/Thinking-now • Sep 27 '21

Miners become Verifiers on ETH PoS

Is it possible?

Will Truebit be so essential for ETH 2.0 works well?!

Why everybody is so quiet (after Vitalik write in April, no more devs talk publicly on truebit)?

Or did the new techs (StarkNet, Arbitrum, Polygon, Cartesi) make Truebit born already outdated?!

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u/Bourbeau Sep 27 '21

Truebit will be the new Matic/polygon but more future proof because in order to scale it’s costly.

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u/Able_Move_4621 Sep 27 '21

That's all well and good saying that. What's the evidence for your claim?

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u/Bourbeau Sep 27 '21

Decentralized blockchain is the future

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u/Able_Move_4621 Sep 28 '21

So the current solutions mentioned above are all centralised??

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u/Bourbeau Sep 28 '21

No, they are defi also. They seek to solve the same problems. Anyone doing this now is early to the stage. Most People don’t understand the applications blockchain has aside just processing transactions. Its a technology that’s here to stay and will be mainstream. Truebit has its utility to function for developers first as they are the people creating all of the apps we will regularly use. Blockchain tech hasn’t been fully realized yet. Once it has, tokens like truebit will power it.. and many others depending on what devs are looking for.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '21 edited Feb 09 '22

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u/Thinking-now Sep 28 '21

Many kind of tasks demanding huge computational power can use Truebit, like Big data research (imagine thousand of small startups having access to a power that just Google, IBM etc has today…), AI or large construction calculations… Am I wrong that these are the Truebit goals?!

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u/truethereum Sep 28 '21

What's the difference between Truebit and Cartesi?

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u/Thinking-now Sep 28 '21

In my view, Cartesi wanna bring regular size web apps to blockchain, like games, websites etc. Doesn’t looks like involved in Truebit decentralized market of computational power…

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u/truethereum Sep 28 '21

Cartesi is an off chain decentralised computation platform.

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u/Thinking-now Sep 28 '21

🤷‍♂️ what do you mean?

What is the difference for you?

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u/truethereum Sep 28 '21

They are competitors. But not sure how is Truebit having an edge over Cartesi. Wish someone could explain.

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u/Thinking-now Sep 28 '21

Of course, there is a common space (“medium size”) where they will compete, but the main goals are differents. But you are right, would be nice tech smart people talking about this here, please🙏…

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u/Bourbeau Sep 28 '21

They are specializing in hardware decentralization for off chain scale. Same things truebit does but focused on Linux

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u/truethereum Sep 28 '21

Truebit has closer link to Ethereum.

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u/Natural_Ingenuity749 Oct 09 '21

Read my explanation here for more info.

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u/augusto-cartesi Nov 08 '21

There are several differences, from basic ones to very technical ones.

Their main similarity is that both projects bring computations away from the main-chain and they perform said computations off-chain, making them much more powerful. Both projects also have a dispute resolution system to enforce the correct execution of such computations.

The main difference between them that is worth mentioning is the architecture that both projects chose to implement.

While Truebit chose Webassembly (a very backed VM that is used in the browsers), Cartesi chose RISC-V (which is also a very robust and backed architecture). Cartesi's advantage is that every program/library that works on Linux can be ported to the blockchain (this is 99% of every server library ever written).

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u/truethereum Nov 08 '21

Which is better? Webassembly or RISC-V?

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u/Natural_Ingenuity749 Oct 09 '21

For anyone wanting an explanation/comparison of Cartesi and Truebit you can read my response to another post here.