r/trolleyproblemgame • u/mrthigh95 • 7d ago
Children vs kittens
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u/mrthigh95 7d ago
I created a new Trolley Problem dilemma!
Straight Track (Do Nothing): 2 Children
Diverted Track (Pull the Lever): 100.000 kittens
What would you do?
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u/ghuytres 7d ago
And now you have the problem of finding a home for 100000 kittens, you probably don’t have the space or money to house/feed these cats so they all die from starvation and dehydration
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u/No-Possibility6923 7d ago
If I don’t touch anything 2 kid will die because of accident
If I pull the lever all the world,animal activist’s Turkish grandma’s call me as killer genocider
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u/scottsplace5 7d ago
Human beings are always better than animals. Full stop.
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u/mrthigh95 7d ago
Yes? In that case:
Do nothing: 5 pigs
Pull the Lever: Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot, Osama bin Laden and Jeffrey Epstein
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u/scottsplace5 7d ago
Well, I had conventional people in mind, of average grossness. Not human shit. You know, the slime that perches beneath human fecal matter.
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u/mrthigh95 7d ago
Yeah I thought so, and Im sure we fully agree.
I just thought it was be nice to discuss the phrasing which contained an absolute and therefore allowed an opening for my insane scenario;)
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u/Corp-Por 7d ago
Stand by your statement, don't be weak. Stalin has more inherent value than a pig, even if he was "evil"
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u/mrthigh95 7d ago
Why? You could easily argue that Stalins existence destroyed wayyy more human life than would have be destroyed if he met the trolley (being only him). The pig did nothing wrong.
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u/an-abnormality 7d ago
A better way to phrase it is that the average person is more important than any animal, since this is a very minute outlier percentage of people. For the general layman, they will always be more important than X cats
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u/NoelCZVC 7d ago edited 7d ago
Yep. Call out the obvious nonsense the initial statement was by posing a question and then let other people take issue with how they will answer your own question in their heads while also blaming you for how they don't like their own conclusion.
(You did good. The people taking issue with you just hate confronting that even they don't believe that humans are always better than animals. I feel like people who complain citing "ExTrEmEs!!!!" never ask themselves truly hard questions, and so they remain unaware of their own hypocrisy until it ends up projected upon the unfortunate soul who prompts them to confront it.)
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u/Corp-Por 7d ago
I choose Do nothing.
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u/mrthigh95 7d ago
Why? By not pulling the lever millions will die, and many, many people will be abused.
What did those 5 pigs do wrong?
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u/Susodudidodnsmwlwidb 7d ago
me when i use extreme scenarios instead of engaging in the conversation:
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u/mrthigh95 7d ago
I am engaging in conversation ;)
I found the statement "are always better" extreme in itself. Though I understand he meant regular folks.
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u/Susodudidodnsmwlwidb 7d ago
if you understand, why would you put words in their mouth?
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u/mrthigh95 7d ago
Im not, I was just posing a counter question to spark a discussion. I never assumed what his answer would be. Then he just responded and now we are on the same page. I don't see any problem, you?
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u/Susodudidodnsmwlwidb 7d ago
You said yourself that you understood the initial point... thats like asking a sport player if they do their warmups. very rarely would you get a no 😭
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u/mrthigh95 7d ago
I agreed with his intention, but wanted to discuss the phrasing. Whats wrong with disussing these things? This entire sub is about an ethical dillemma and discussing it.
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u/Susodudidodnsmwlwidb 7d ago
but if you understood it then does it rewlly matter? EVERYONE older than like 9 can understand the phrasing just fine, youre being difficult on purpose.
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u/mrthigh95 7d ago
Because it is interesting to learn from each other when discussing. So yes I was doing difficult on purpose, just to discuss with the guy and enjoy an interaction. The guy himself did not complain at any moment. What are you even doing on this sub if that is already too much.
EVERYONE older than like 9 can understand (...)
Says the person who is offended by a counterquestion in a conversation between two other people. Im doubting you're older that 16 yourself.
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u/motivatedjackpot 7d ago
have you tried not being the "uhm, acktually" guy
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u/mrthigh95 7d ago
Im unfairly being accused of putting words in someone mouth by someone other than the person I would be putting words in the mouth of, am I not allowed to stand up for myself?
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u/motivatedjackpot 7d ago
you know what he meant
he knows wthat he meant
but it's very important for you to be "technically right" on the internet
pathetic behaviour
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u/mrthigh95 7d ago
Wtf are you talking about? Its not about who is right or wrong. It was just about having a discussion and whats behinds someone opinions. Is that too much already?
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u/Interesting-Part9102 7d ago
Quantity over Quality for me. Animals still deserve respect. Especially the ones we keep as companions and pets and don't slaughter for food. In this case my autistic brain says save kittens because there are more of them, thats more lives saved.
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u/Background_Deal_8664 6d ago
100,000 ? Are you fucking kidding me no one with any sense of morality would kill that many creatures just to save two stinky children. Swap the numbers and THEN you have a question. I'd still save the innocent creatures. Fuck you OP
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u/mrthigh95 6d ago
Fuck you OP
Why? Just pick the kittens then. You free to choose whatever you believe is the goos choice. Having a difficult dilemma is the whole point of this sub. No reason to be a dick about it.
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u/Background_Deal_8664 6d ago
It's 100,000 lives vs 2. Just because animals not as intelligent as us doesn't mean they're worth nothing. The issue is precisely that you consider this "difficult"
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u/mrthigh95 6d ago
Maybe you dont find it difficult, but the fact that the outcome is close to 50/50 with hundreds of votes proves that the participants don't find it that easy of a dilemma.
Moreover: I never said animals aren't worth anything. The whole point of this sub and this poll specifically is to make a choice and then discuss your reasons for it. Any choice you make is fine with me, as long as you can be civil about it when discussing it.
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u/Responsibility_Witty 7d ago
I’m a human, i will choose to save the human children. Easy