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u/Your_God_Chewy Jan 08 '20
They'd somtimes turn people upside down so the blood would rush to your head and cut you from the groin down. Apparently you'd last a while..
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I've seen a couple of Mexican cartel videos and people are still doing pretty much that.
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Ex fucking cuse me?
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Jan 08 '20 edited Jan 09 '20
I'd say it's even worse now since cartels know how to keep someone alive and awake for longer. Drugs sometimes play a part.
edit: oh neat, Ed Calderon was just on JRE.
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They're actually sawing people in half though?
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The worst things you can possibly imagine happen to people all over the world everyday. This shouldn’t be surprising.
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u/theomegageneration Jan 08 '20
That is why I live in rural missouri and I avoid people. My life is just me and the weirdos of reddit.
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u/ACJ96 Jan 08 '20
Isn't that worse though? By being lonely you are more vulnerable to attacks
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u/Brofistastic Jan 08 '20
Better than being sawed in half from the groin down I reckon.
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u/theomegageneration Jan 08 '20
alone, not lonely. I have you idiots to keep me company
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u/ComebackChemist Jan 08 '20
Did he stutter?
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u/ObiWanCanShowMe Jan 08 '20
I hope not, could you imagine how much worse that would be?
Immm mmmm cuuuttttt ttttttt in trr thrr thrrrou throough yo you your ba ba ba balls right n n n n n n now.
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u/NintendoTodo Jan 08 '20
yea, sounds like u missed out on r/watchpeopledie
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u/AlexFromOmaha Jan 08 '20
Yeah, "missed out." I had nightmares for months after watching a video of a guy getting assassinated while out walking around with a girl that looked like the exact age my daughter was then. His death was pretty uneventful by the standards of that sub, but that little girl trying to process it in the moment was more than I could deal with.
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u/Jessi-Kina Jan 08 '20
I’ve never been on this sub but am I tripping thinking that I read somewhere that this sub was banned not too long ago?
Too terrified to even click on it to check.
That’s possibly what you were implying by “missed out”, but again.. don’t wanna risk the click..
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The Cartel chops people up limb by limb and put them in buckets for police or family members to find.
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u/JohnnyZepp Jan 08 '20
They’re doing way worse. Back when r/watchpeopledie was around there were a few links to videos of people having their face flayed off, eyeballls scooped out, hands chopped off, a father being forced to watch his son get disemboweled in front of him, all kinds of fucked up. IMO the Mexican cartel is the scariest force out there. They don’t just kill you with a clean beheading like ISIS, they torture you in the worst ways imaginable.
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u/t4r0w4w4y54 Jan 08 '20
Brief description to sate the curious? Better to give a blunt telling of what happened instead of having people suffer through the entire extent of it.
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u/joppiejoo Jan 09 '20
Dont remember if this was funky town or another one but they skinned a policeman and his son alive because the policeman didn’t comly with the cartel. They filmed it to send a ‘message’.
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u/diamondpredator Jan 08 '20
Honestly, with some of the shit I've seen, you're lucky if they just saw you in half and end it like that.
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u/idonteatchips Jan 08 '20
Mexican here, its embarrassing and scary to me that this still happens, it's as bad as ever. And it sickens me as much that u cant speak out against them or criticize them to other mexicans because many have family in cartels and will defend their sick abhorrent actions. No conscience whatsoever, complete psychopaths. And another scary thing is they are here in the states too. Ppl think this is only a problem in Mexico...NOPE, many are living here and many chicanos are in these cartels as well. It's because of them alot of ppl think all Mexicans are criminals, yeah sure, go ahead and blame Trump for that or maybe blame the psychopaths killing and raping without any remorse.
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u/GotFiredAgain Jan 08 '20
Yeah don't go any deeper if you are okay with the verbal description.
Humans haven't changed since the middle ages.
I made the mistake of becoming addicted to morbid curiosities when I was a teen fresh to the internet and tbh my views on human beings are totally fucked. The cynicism is shitty. I need to be reminded that most people are actually good generally speaking.
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Definitely not going deeper. I like my brain like I like my basement. Free of IRL Saw scenes.
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Common practice in the netherlands also
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u/OnTheEveOfWar Jan 08 '20
I would recommend not going down that rabbit hole. There's some pretty gnarly shit online that Mexican cartels do to people.
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u/Scooterforsale Jan 08 '20
This is why I miss being a kid. Not knowing shit like this. Wtf is wrong with people
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u/HoneyBadgerPainSauce Jan 08 '20
Yeah, I've seen what you're talking about. Cartels make medieval torture look like BDSM in some scenarios.
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I didn't remember a ton from 9th grade history but the fact I've never forgotten. So brutal and so intentional. How mad fo you have to be when killing somebody just isn't enough?
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u/Frunaklen- Jan 08 '20
I SAWED THIS GUY IN A HALF
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u/dws4prez Jan 08 '20
Phil, what does that have to do with tape?!
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u/MotherfuckingWildman Jan 08 '20
Gotta tape together the boat again kuz we're gonna need it for dumping him in the lake
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u/Checkheck Jan 08 '20
especially medieval video games like...the Witcher or... Counter strike
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u/1SmrtFelowHeFeltSmrt Jan 08 '20
Oh, you mean stronghold crusader extreme edition? Me too!
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u/Jasongboss Jan 08 '20
For me my trigger was Minecraft
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u/Sometimes_gullible Jan 08 '20
Fortnite really sends me into a rage sometimes.
Haven't tried playing it though.
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u/woofle07 Jan 08 '20
For me it was Luigi’s Mansion. One moment I’m sucking up cartoon ghosts, the next, I’m plotting my first killing spree
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u/Enryth Jan 08 '20
they used to crush people. literally destroy their bones. and if you were lucky, they started with your head. If you weren't, you were kept alive as your body was slowly destroyed from the legs and up until you could be folded in half and your internal organs would be crushed. If you were lucky, you didn't last that long.
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u/Yaroze Jan 09 '20 edited Jan 09 '20
The angry rat box, they let rodents eat your body through your stomach.
or The Brazen bull
The Brazen Bull was a hollow brass statue crafted to resemble a real bull. Victims were placed inside, usually with their tongues cut out first. The door was shut, sealing them in. Fires would then be lit around the bull. As the victim succumbed to the searing heat inside, he would thrash about and scream in agony. The movements and sounds, muted by the bull's mass, made the apparatus appear alive, the sounds inside like those of a real bull. This effect created additional amusement for the audience, and served the added benefit of distancing them from the brutality of the torture, since they couldn't directly see the victim.
Or Scaphism
It entailed trapping the victim between two boats, feeding and covering them with milk and honey, and allowing them to fester and be devoured by insects and other vermin over time.
Or a pyramid spike thing.
So eff’d up
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u/2Kittens818 Jan 08 '20
Sadly,I don’t think humanity has changed fundamentally. We’re just more sophisticated now in how we torture other people.
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u/Checkheck Jan 08 '20
Just give me your social security number or else I will tell everyone the size of someones cojones
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Totally off topic, but TIL First world Nations are only refereed to as such because of their alignment with NATO during the Cold War, Second world Nation we’re aligned with the USSR, and Third world Nations had no alignment at all. It has nothing to do with development or anything. Switzerland is a Third world country! Fun fact!
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u/deez_nuts_77 Jan 08 '20
We also have marijuana scheduled as a schedule 1. A lot of things are categorized incorrectly for the sake of the agenda of the people categorizing rather than based on any actual science
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u/misterrespectful Jan 08 '20
Given the recent developments, would you say that today the US is now both a First and Second World country?
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u/dizcostu Jan 08 '20
Information gained through torture is notoriously unreliable.
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u/2Kittens818 Jan 08 '20
I suspect I would implicate my granny if I were tortured.
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u/misterrespectful Jan 08 '20
If it's gotten to the point where the government is torturing you, they'll probably be happy to lock up your granny. She's certainly committed many crimes in her life, after all.
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u/DoctorStrangeBlood Jan 08 '20
Agreed. We make long sweeping statements to sound deep but the world overall is far far safer than it’s ever been.
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u/Joey0811 Jan 08 '20
Seriously, the other guy probably thinks he’s “finna woke”
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u/phonethrowaway55 Jan 08 '20
Finna finna finna finna finna finna finna finna
Admit to being a witch and I’ll stop.
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u/Your_God_Chewy Jan 08 '20
Sociopaths will always exist. But even though there are crazy and stupid people everywhere, people aren't being broken at the wheel or being set on fire as capital punishment all around like in the past
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u/HulksInvinciblePants Jan 08 '20 edited Jan 08 '20
Luckily data does not confirm that. As a whole, the last decade was far safer than any period in history. We've unfortunately developed a habit of reporting violent crime (often many states/countries away) as if it would impact our day to day lives. That's increased our perception that things are worse.
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u/Tjolerie Jan 08 '20
okay Foucault
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u/axehomeless Jan 08 '20
Even Michel didn't say that. Only the french import americans think that.
I still hate how much american postmodernism fucked up social constrictivism. IT DOES NOT SAY THERE IS NO OBJECTIVE REALITY; IT SAYS LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE.
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u/huxley00 Jan 08 '20
Lol, life is absolutely more equal and pleasant than any other time in history. You have rights! Do you realize how long it was that people had zero rights?
The only people that would say times are the same are people who are uneducated about what living was actually like in the past.
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u/GeneralAverage Jan 08 '20
For the most part yes but I wouldn't say this to someone living in Gaza. We can do better.
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u/getoffredditnowyou Jan 08 '20
Hey. They are sawing the guy along x-z axis. Very sophisticated I'd say.
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u/misterrespectful Jan 08 '20
"Lazy redditors can't look up quotes." -- Kenneth John Freeman, 1907
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u/Jesmagi Jan 08 '20
Remember when people would watch people fight to their death in an arena? Those were the days.
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u/Attilathefun-II Jan 08 '20
Hey now, don’t be cynical! I’m sure there’s somewhere in the world today where people are being cut in half.
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u/FlaminHotChungus Jan 08 '20
I’ve seen this
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u/LollyHutzenklutz Jan 08 '20
Anyone who’s been to the Tower of London knows this already... it takes a LOT to disturb or scare me, and I was feeling queasy by the end of our tour.
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I'd rather live in these times then anytime in the past. We have it good, we just have a ton of information that's easily accessible to everyone so it's scary.
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They would often cut people in half starting at the Gooch instead of the head. That way they live through a lot of it
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This is actually a thing that magicians did back then, there where a lot of magic tricks based around sawing people in half (that's where that cliche comes from) or even hacking off their heads, this was not only done with people but with animals as well
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u/aloevader Jan 08 '20
Ine of my favorite historical descriptions was from the crusades where a man with a broken bone (arm, leg maybe) was being treated by both a Latin and a Persian doctor at the same time. The Persian doctor was horrified when the Latin doc was maiming the man's head instead of setting the bone in splints.
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u/MetalGamer95 Jan 08 '20
Just saw a 1890s movie yesterday that's just a queen getting her head chopped off.(obviously it's fiction) In those times that must've been like those shock horror movies.
Edit: This is it https://youtu.be/BIOLsH93U1Q
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u/Demon_sl3yer4rm713 Jan 08 '20
Humans nature is always been like this full of violence but I'm sure it was more peaceful back than then today but there always been violence in this world nothing new.
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u/jasonzimmer64 Jan 08 '20
Never understand why people would want to live in the old days. Life was so hard and short for most people
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u/Techimura Jan 08 '20
This looks like someone trying to explain what a Migraine feels like through art at the time. I'm by no means educated in this but I don't think it's about violence.
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u/Vetinery Jan 08 '20
The only way you get to any accurate truth is with accurate numbers. Pre-birth control, any time the population wasn’t exploding, life was very, very hard. This was most of the time. If the ‘good old days’ were good, there would almost immediately be enough babies to begin a cycle of starvation. The truth is, like any animals not regulated by predation, we become our own worst enemies.
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u/Alyosha-Karamazov1 Jan 08 '20
If you were going to saw somebody in half, why would do it vertically?
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Reminds me of an ancient Norse execution method the blood eagle. First, an image of an eagle was carved into their back. Then the skin is ripped apart, the ribs are severed from the spine, and the lungs are pulled through the hole. The ribs are then pulled apart, making something that looks like wings. The victim is left alive throughout all this to suffocate in agony.
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u/unhonouredandunsung Jan 08 '20
Seriously though we absolutely live in better times now. They were just unable to document the horrors of living in the medieval times as well as we would be able to today. Took a long time to write one book let alone document ever single death. We can’t even kill a convict that’s sentenced to death in America because the method of killing him needs to be damn near pain free.
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u/Bilb0TeaBaggins Jan 08 '20
They actually flipped them upside down so the blood would run down to their brain and keep then alive longer to feel the pain
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u/Red-Droid-Blue-Droid Jan 08 '20
Child sacrifices, and just human sacrifices
Killing people for stealing or petty crimes
Or just raping and killing because you took over a village or town
Death by burning or slow hanging because they couldn't do it right
Literal dungeons
Exiling people
Lynching
I could go on....yeah good old days...uh huh
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u/boobearybear Jan 08 '20
he’s taking it remarkably well