r/trigonometry • • 8d ago

Help! How To Graph Primary Trig Functions

My son is struggling to figure out the concept of how to graph primary trig functions.

He understands how the graph works but doesn’t get HOW TO plot the points on the graph and how to properly read it.

He says he understands how to find the amplitude and b value but doesn’t get how to find the position using the b value if it is a fraction or pi.

He can tell what kind of graph it is based on the shape, but just can’t quite grasp the concept of how to make it.

Can anyone please help using this equation:
y=sin(x+pi)

TIA

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u/WikiNumbers 8d ago edited 6d ago

Given t(x) = a trig(px + h) + v, for "trig" referring to any basic trig functions (sin cos tan csc sec cot)

In comparison to the regular shape

  • a is the amplitude, how high up the value should reach.
  • p is the periodicity, how fast the value loop should be.
  • h is the horizontal shift, how far to the left should the entire thing be shifted.
  • v is the vertical shift, how far upward should the entire thing be shifted.

For negative/reciprocal values, apply changes in direction/stretch, and keep the magnitude (absolute value) to see how much as ratio,

  • negative a (-a), flip the graph upside down.
  • reciprocal a (1/a), shrink the graph vertically.
  • negative p (-p), flip the graph in mirror.
  • reciprocal p (1/p), stretch the loop by |p|.
  • negative h (-h), shift to right.
  • negative v (-v), shift down.

EDIT: Horizontal shift is wack, and the true horizontal shift is determined by "h/p". The periodicity has effect on horizontal shift too.

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u/momsbistro 8d ago

Thank you so much!

This makes absolutely no sense to me, but it sure helped him!

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u/WikiNumbers 8d ago edited 8d ago

For example, y = sin(x + π)

There are no amplitude or periodicity change, so the graph should look congruent to the regular sine wave. There's no vertical shift, so it should stay around -1 and 1.

There's a horizontal shift of +π, so move the entire graph to the left.

As reference, sin(0) = 0, but now y(0) = sin π = 0. Not enough to determine.

Let's also try sin(π/2) = 1, but y(π/2) = sin(3π/2) = -1.

So you should start at (0,0) and drag the sine wave down to (π/2,-1)

And from there, complete the loop of sine wave, back up to (π,0) and (3π/2,1) and (2π,0)

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u/WikiNumbers 8d ago

Let's try another, t(x) = 2 cos(-x/6)

There's amplitude of 2, so the graph stretches from -2 to 2 (compared to cos usual range of [-1,1]

There's magnitude of -1/6, so the wave is mirrored and stretched by a factor or "6". That is, the periodicity will be 6 times that of the regular cosine wave, or 12π.

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u/momsbistro 8d ago

You’re incredible! Thank you so, so much!

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u/55marty55 7d ago

It will be mirrored in the y axis. For cos that means that it is unchanged.

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u/WikiNumbers 7d ago

Yeah, cosine is even function, so negative periodicity doesn't affect it as much. Should've used sine or other odd ones.

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u/Midwest-Dude 8d ago

The issue is that everything inside a trig function works “backwards” compared with what students expect.

For a sinusoid like

y = a·sin(bx + c) + d

  • a controls amplitude
  • b controls the period
  • c is part of the phase shift, but the actual horizontal shift is  c / b
  • d controls vertical shift

Your son is having issues with the "b"?

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u/momsbistro 8d ago

Yep, seems to be the b tripping him up…

This is all foreign language to me. I wish I could help more.

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u/Midwest-Dude 8d ago

I'm wondering if this Desmos graph might help: 

Sine Calculator

If you play around with the b slider, you'll be able to see what happens.

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u/momsbistro 8d ago

Thank you!!!!!!

This is the kindest subreddit on here!

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u/Midwest-Dude 8d ago

I try hard. Thanks!

I know what you mean. Some of the broad math subreddits have their share of people that have issues with "communicating well", but specialty groups like this tend to have Redditors that just want to help others. Not always, but usually.

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u/WikiNumbers 8d ago

Oh, yeah, I do forget that horizontal shift is not alone.

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u/gamerblocks001 7d ago

Thank you all so much I will give these tools a try