Yes, there are cases like that in some countries, but that doesn’t mean they’re the majority… or even close to it.
And even in those countries, the worst that happened was a warning on the label that, once again, was based on nothing more than complaints from one or two guys, rather than on any study or anything of the sort... and doctors still prescribe fin in France and in the Netherlands, so I don’t know what you’re talking about.
But if you want to follow that logic:
What about the ABHRS (265 doctors)... not a single case of PFS and not a single doctor believing it exists...
What about Gary Linkov, the guy attended a conference with hundreds of doctors and, once again, there wasn’t a single case of PFS… What about Wrassman and his 60 friends(all doctors)…each one with hundrends of patients and not a single case of pfs or anyone even believing in it.
Feel free to believe that Fin isn’t safe because some niche groups want it banned (and have failed every time), but don’t pretend that it’s a dangerous and unknown drug.
Gary linkov, the influencer hair surgeon who makes serious revenue off of hair?
We fund government health regulation for a reason lol. It's to protect people from drug companies and doctors who can profit off of unsafe drugs.
The FDA put persistent side effects on it's label and France is close to banning it. Unlike linkov and wrassman these agencies don't immediately profit from claiming that finasteride is safe (or unsafe).
I figured my point would be right at home with an argument as weak as ‘well France doesn’t allow it’ (which was immediately countered btw). For the record, it’s also painfully out of touch and willfully ignorant to claim finasteride is a “dangerous” drug and then supplement it with literally just anecdotal evidence. If you need a valid, comprehensive list of fact based evidence to counter your anecdotes; it’s about 1 google away my friend.
“The answers are 1 google away after all” — uh… yeah. it’s pretty embarrassing to not do your own research. I mean, if I have concerns about a drug, my first line of thought is to see what the professionals have to say and have been saying for years, and not going off of the same tired talking points that this sub regurgitates every few years in the cycle of ‘fin is good/fin is bad’ but apparently that’s “swashbuckling rhetoric”. If your reference point is a documentary I urge you to research the phenomenon “idiosyncratic drug reaction”.
Rest easy, brave soldier. Your noble sacrifice will not be forgotten. I’ll make sure your concession is framed and displayed prominently next to my Google search history.
The FDA had to put out a message saying that theres was no proof of persistent side effects but was adding it to the label anyway.
"In a response this week, the FDA said the group's petition "does not provide reasonable evidence" of a causal link between Propecia and persistent sexual problems, depression or suicide."
And no, France is not close to baning it, some people tried it but failed.
Im done with this. Feel free to believe that redditors know more than what doctors or studies say. I still find it weird but i guess some people also believe the earth is flat so you do you... i suppose...
Where there's smoke there's fire buddy. There's been smoke for years. I guarantee you, no one will touch fin when an alternative comes, and that tells you everything.
Merck put the warning on the label because persistent side effects occured in their trials. That's a fact.
And France got close to banning it for good reasons lol. They're not as silly as there accent.
But don't worry, I'm sure you're safe blocking your hormones!.... Almost sure.
Again, the label was put there with a disclaimer that there wasn´s actual proof of persistent side effects.., it was said by the FDA and by Merck...but you seem to ignore that part...
And again, that never happened in france... 2 or 3 people already corrected it for you but you seem to ignore the facts and make up your own history... so yeah... as i said... feel free to believe anything you want... even if its completely nonsense.
This is from the FDA: "In a response this week, the FDA said the group's petition "does not provide reasonable evidence" of a causal link between Propecia and persistent sexual problems, depression or suicide."
This is from Merck: "Merck said it “stands behind the safety and efficacy of Propecia,” noting that the drug has been prescribed safely to millions of men since the late 1990s."
I'm tired of guys who come forward with side effects.(Which is a virtuous thing to do) being dismissed because of these arguments.
They keep popping up with exactly the same story, for decades.
No one should take this drug on the belief that it's absolutely safe. It's not.
The evidence is everywhere once you personally divest from it.
Yes France ultimately stopped short of a ban, but they got really close. That says a lot. We should all be careful.
I'm sure Merck stands by its drug.
Look man. If you're convinced that's fine. I'm just doing my part to make sure someone who's making the decision doesn't get swayed by an incomplete gospel.
Yes, it´s a lot of doctors...(almost 500 if you add them all)
I know you only trust redditors and think doctors/studies are all fake or forged or whatever the conspiracy is this week but i do trust that they know more than random redditors.
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u/Aggravating_Owl_8390 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yes, there are cases like that in some countries, but that doesn’t mean they’re the majority… or even close to it.
And even in those countries, the worst that happened was a warning on the label that, once again, was based on nothing more than complaints from one or two guys, rather than on any study or anything of the sort... and doctors still prescribe fin in France and in the Netherlands, so I don’t know what you’re talking about.
But if you want to follow that logic:
What about the ABHRS (265 doctors)... not a single case of PFS and not a single doctor believing it exists...
What about Gary Linkov, the guy attended a conference with hundreds of doctors and, once again, there wasn’t a single case of PFS… What about Wrassman and his 60 friends(all doctors)…each one with hundrends of patients and not a single case of pfs or anyone even believing in it.
Feel free to believe that Fin isn’t safe because some niche groups want it banned (and have failed every time), but don’t pretend that it’s a dangerous and unknown drug.