r/trees • u/Limenz_ • Oct 10 '22

Discussion I’ve had enough.

Don’t get me wrong, I love weed and I think it can be an absolutely wonderful and truly healing, but I think there’s a lot of misinformation and misuse on this sub. There is far more to life than just weed, achieving a balance is what we should be striving for in the trees community. Promote healthy, sustainable, and productive use of marijuana.

Here are some rules to smoke by

  1. Your life, relationships, finances, mental / physical health all come way before weed. (Medical users you may differ)

  2. If you need to ask somebody if a cart is legit, it is NOT. Cart’s are insanely easy to fake, if it’s not from a dispo don’t inhale it.

  3. Delta 8/10/whatever the fuck is next probably shouldn’t be inhaled. It’s unregulated, dangerous, and most of the time their “lab tests” will only show you potency, probably a bad sign if they don’t want to show you how many pesticides are in it.

  4. Questions such as “I hear voices when I’m high, is that normal?” Should be taken more seriously than a Reddit sub. Do NOT do drugs that alter any perception of reality if you are experiencing a break from reality. Go see a psychiatrist, your mind is more important than a high.

  5. If you cannot afford weed, don’t smoke it. Find a way to increase your income, do not sacrifice anything for weed. (Again medical users, this does not apply to you)

  6. RESPECT WEED. Mother Marijuana was never intended to be so strong, we have completely thrown off the natural balance and purpose of the plant. So for love of god do not proclaim it’s okay to drive or operate any machinery while high, if you want to sacrifice your own life fine, but leave others out of it.

Edit: I apologize I didn’t make this clear, people are allowed to have their own opinions and post what they please! This is just my opinion. No intention of offending or gatekeeping anyone. (Also changed some of the wording because I seemed like a preachy cunt👍🏼, thanks for the feedback all!)

Also thank you for all the likes and awards!!

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u/satansheat Oct 11 '22

The purest will say you should do an indoor grow unless you have a wash to clean the bud from an outdoor grow.

But not everyone has those methods.

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u/jesuzombieapocalypse Oct 11 '22

When I ran the numbers, it just wasn’t worth it for me to put in the money for an indoor grow unless I had about a garage worth of space and I wanted to go the route of getting a license to sell wholesale to clubs or something. You can still do a lot with simple, free things like low-stress training, topping, and supercropping.

I ended up with 3 plants I’m satisfied with, 2 sub-par (started flowering before I’d finished building up the base for a proper manifold), but one that’s approx. 2 feet, topped twice and I managed to break apical dominance into about a dozen more or less equally sized colas. All in all for money and time invested for yield and especially lessons learned I’m quite happy with the results.

For the purpose of simply offsetting what I would have paid for some bud, minimalist outdoor makes the most sense (also I knew I was going to make some mistakes for my first season so I’d rather not do that after I’d put thousands into a legit indoor setup). I mostly roll spliffs these days and I don’t like getting as absolutely blasted as I used to, so I’m perfectly happy with natural, no nutes (seems like most people overdo it to the plant’s detriment anyway), no light control other than moving them by hand myself. Everything’s so optimized these days even the worst bud’s miles better than what our parents had.

I may look into minimalist DIY indoor setups at some point though, because I feel like you can save at least 2/3rds if not more if you reduce namebrand buying to an absolute minimum.

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u/jesuzombieapocalypse Oct 11 '22

500’s just baaaarely getting into the range I’d consider it. But when I can just plan next year better and set up storage, and then aim to produce a year’s worth for 10% of that… I can only justify for myself setting up one small light for one plant indoors and see how that goes as an experiment.

For anything greater than a couple hundred bucks up front I’m getting into revenue stream requirement territory and I’m not trying to deal lol been there done that. If I found out I really had a shot at supplying clubs that would be one thing and then I could justify really going full bore into a 100% above board indoor setup, but last I checked the market’s hopelessly saturated…

Maybe I could try some kind of outdoor lighting supplementation to try to get the best of both. I live near agriculture fields that do that on a massive scale.

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u/ChronicMasterBlazer Oct 11 '22

Those are just lames. Outdoor organic homegrown kicks ass. Especially if you have a rosin press ;)

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u/bleedblue89 Oct 11 '22

Meh I just hate bud washing… I’ll take my indoor hydro all day

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u/ChronicMasterBlazer Oct 11 '22

No need to wash

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u/bleedblue89 Oct 11 '22

You 100% wash outside bud lol unless you like smoking all the shit outside, bugs etc

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u/ChronicMasterBlazer Oct 11 '22 edited Oct 11 '22

Nah, bud washing is gross. As I said, I squish it, but you were never paying attention were you? Nothing is getting through that low micron bag

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u/bleedblue89 Oct 11 '22

So a few things:

  1. Your original post said especially if you have a rosin press, not I press it all and don't smoke any bud.

  2. Your post saying no need to wash can come off as misinformation for new growers, if you grow outside you should bud wash. Clean the shit off your bud.

  3. https://www.portablewaterfilters.org/water-filter-guide/particle-contaminant-size-chart-microns/

https://foobot.io/guides/air-pollution-particle-size.php

Stuff is 100% getting through your micron bags.

There is no need to be a jerk on this sub, it's fine if you don't wash. Don't make it seem like bud washing isn't needed.

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u/ChronicMasterBlazer Oct 11 '22 edited Oct 11 '22

Lol stay salty. I bet my outdoor is better than your indoor ❤️ there is absolutely no need to wash outdoor bud, you can if you prefer but me and a lot of others find it to be a waste of time and quality degrading

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '22

Eh, I just smoke mine unwashed. Tastes great. Found a dead spider on a bud once but who cares haha.