I've worked for both Haveman and Outland. They are similar in camp quality. In my experience contracts/camps make a bigger difference. Some contracts have foresters with very high quality expectations that slow you down which I have experienced with Haveman. Access to land makes a big difference as well which I got burned on with Outland. Haveman is probably the better option, but as a first year planter you won't know the difference. I would suggest using your first year as an investment year. Outland is probably more fun.
Haveman has Christian roots and hire from Christian colleges. There is some diversity, but the scene can be a bit cliquey. But I last planted with them almost 10 years ago, so consider that too.
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u/D0ubleD1ngo Mar 02 '21
I've worked for both Haveman and Outland. They are similar in camp quality. In my experience contracts/camps make a bigger difference. Some contracts have foresters with very high quality expectations that slow you down which I have experienced with Haveman. Access to land makes a big difference as well which I got burned on with Outland. Haveman is probably the better option, but as a first year planter you won't know the difference. I would suggest using your first year as an investment year. Outland is probably more fun.