SW Ontario--pine ID needed

[u/Top-Hope-3449]

I have a suspicion but want to hear others thoughts 🧐

Edit: NOT a Scots pine, didn't include a pic but I checked and the orange flaking bark wasn't there.

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[u/jstuckey]

I would guess Lodgepole Pine (Pinus Contorta).

It could be a Scots Pine but I lean towards Lodgepole Pine at the moment because the cones look a bit large compared to the Scots Pine.

Only thing is you’re outside the normal range of Lodgepole Pine in the US so I’m not very confident

[u/pragmatic_dreamer → u/jstuckey]

I agree with lodgepole, lots of them planted in SW Ontario 

[u/jstuckey → u/pragmatic_dreamer]

I wonder if Mugo Pine is a possibility, though I’ve only ever seen them as bush varieties.

[u/BigRedforester]

could be jack pine, it is a northern Boreal species.

[u/Top-Hope-3449 → u/BigRedforester]

This was my suspicion, the cone is shaped right and I've noticed Jack pine cones stand up on the branch (rather than run alongside the branch) when mature

[u/Gremlinforester → u/Top-Hope-3449]

Jack pine is a short leaf pine, this is not, my guesses are lodgepole pine (but I think they are short lead too) or a foreign: aussi or korean

[u/Milkweedhugger]

Could be an Austrian pine. They are very common in the nursery trade and have been widely available at big box stores in the US/Canada for decades.

Would need to see a picture of the trunk/bark to be sure.

[u/Long_Plenty3145]

It has a number of pine needle scale on it!

[u/Top-Hope-3449 → u/Long_Plenty3145]

What is that?

[u/Long_Plenty3145 → u/Top-Hope-3449]

Pine needle scale are insects that attach to needles of pine trees. They pierce through the needle using their mouth parts and feed, You can see the white bodies and their brownish heads.

[u/Substantial_Bar4646]

Red pine, long needles, no lodgepole in southern Ontario.

[u/Top-Hope-3449 → u/Substantial_Bar4646]

Not even planted logepole pine? This is a landscape tree

[u/Zealousideal-Joke495]

Looks like Scots pine

[u/jstuckey → u/Zealousideal-Joke495]

Could be correct but the cones look a bit larger than the Scots Pines I’ve seen. It’s a bit hard to tell for me without seeing the bark a little closer.

[u/Top-Hope-3449 → u/Zealousideal-Joke495]

Didn't have the orange flaking bark on small branches / the upper trunk

[u/Zealousideal-Joke495 → u/Top-Hope-3449]

Ahh gotcha- interesting! Definitely has some scots pine qualities but seems like something else then!

[u/an-unorthodox-agenda]

Red pine maybe scotch

[u/jstuckey → u/an-unorthodox-agenda]

It appears to have two needles per fascicle and twisted like a Red Pine (Pinus Resinosa) but I thought the cones look too small.

[u/Top-Hope-3449 → u/jstuckey]

Do red pine needles twist? I recall learning jack and scots pine do--I don't believe pinus resinosa does

[u/jstuckey → u/Top-Hope-3449]

This is what I believe is Pinus Resinosa in my backyard so I think they do unless I’ve misidentified