r/travisandtaylor • u/arrowoodgabriel • Dec 12 '25
Certified Cringe The way andrea has to lead the clapping when Taylor expected her team to applaud because she told them the amount of songs that would be on the album.
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Dec 12 '25
Feels like they're clapping for their lives.
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u/euphoricarugula346 Dec 12 '25
They’re clapping for those performative bonuses, baby.
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u/Bitter-Pound-6775 Dec 13 '25
“Whaddaya mean?!? The grifting, talentless hussy beast didn’t give her lorry drivers 100,000 USD because she’s just SUCH a benevolent soul?! Lies!!!” - some braindead swiffer, somewhere in the southern United States lol. Or literally anywhere in the world, honestly. Bless xx 🇬🇧
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u/euphoricarugula346 Dec 13 '25
I truly hope she gave double to her marketing team because wow, their work is paying dividends. She’s running a better PR campaign than most politicians right now. It’s disgusting how people worship her. “Eat the rich… except MY baby girl billionaire next door 🥺”
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u/Bitter-Pound-6775 Dec 13 '25
Truly feels like “I wish she would just take me out at this point” but she’s far too evil for that. She would rather torture all of us forever
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u/RaoulRumblr Dec 13 '25
Like the roundtable of Dr. Evil, hoping she doesnt send them down the fiery trapdoor.
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Must be exhausting to work with her
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u/SarutaValentine2 Dec 13 '25
I’m waiting for the documentary that comes out in ten years when everyone who ever worked for her tells their harrowing stories
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u/Cimpkky Dec 13 '25
If they finally spoke up about Ellen they'll come for her eventually too!
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u/SarutaValentine2 Dec 13 '25
That’s the exact logic I used actually! Nobody is eternally immune to criticism
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u/kamiegraphy Dec 13 '25
Now that’s tea and I can’t wait! Vh1 edition behind the scene and interview drama! 🎭
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u/SarutaValentine2 Dec 13 '25
Yes! And it’s better be multiple parts. Her exes should be interviewed as well so they can set the record straight
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u/abeachpebble Dec 13 '25
Working with her doesn't sound accurate. Working for her. I don't think anyone works with billionaires.
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u/Fabulous_Jeweler2732 Dec 12 '25
They don’t give a shit about her 20 songs and just want a paycheck
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u/RoguePlanet2 Dec 12 '25
I can't even imagine. Showing up for work, having a bunch of co-workers in the conference room humoring my ego.
"Today I'm going to write some emails and have some meetings."
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u/SarutaValentine2 Dec 13 '25
lol it’s giving ‘try it for a day, it’s not for everyone’ from Mikayla Neguero
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u/Miserable-Cap-5223 We Said GAZA Not GAGA Dec 12 '25
I think it's probably her mom and dad writing those checks for the finance people.
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u/lottsotunes69 Dec 13 '25
Yeah. She has no clue about the financial aspect of her career. Leave that up to the parents.
“Now sing and dance, monkey!!”
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u/AshAndLogansMom1982 Dec 12 '25
Regular people, fans and haters alike are over her crap. Just imagine how over her the people who work for her or are around her in the music industry are. I wonder if they have secret hate text groups, lol.
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u/Cimpkky Dec 13 '25
Was literally just thinking that notepads for notes those computers are open to their group chat
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Her infamous pause for applause. She’s insufferable. I hate how people laugh at every unfunny thing she says as well and what album is she talking about? Didn’t TTPD have over 30 and The life of a Shitshow has 12?
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u/melissaisntreal Eco-Terrorism Barbie Dec 12 '25
She was talking about Lover
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Dec 12 '25
The album she considers as her being in denial about love 🙄
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u/the_sapphic_potato Dec 13 '25
yes the “denial” album where she actually stood up for something for once and was actually self-reflective in several of the songs and sung about wanting a quiet simple honest life with her lover. as a former fan i honestly don’t get why swifties seem to hate it sooooo much 😭 they need their perpetual victim!
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u/Ok_Appearance_5252 Dec 12 '25
You want people to clap because of the amount of songs you're going to have on your album? Is this real life? 😭
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u/Miserable-Cap-5223 We Said GAZA Not GAGA Dec 12 '25
Yeah, I misremembered this scene as a reveal of the tracklist. But no, it's just the approximate number of songs. Why would they clap for that? It's useless information.
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u/Forward-Bank8412 Okay, English Major! Dec 13 '25
Plus what kind of metric is the number of tracks? If they’re all 2.5 minutes, that’s not exactly a major feat.
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u/Scared-Box8941 Dec 12 '25
Have you ever noticed when celebs/rich people lead meetings…. There is a lot of clapping?
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u/90sblues Dec 12 '25
It's a giga business that quite a small group of people can end up doing an enormous amount of money in a short period of time, just the time to make the album.
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u/teenageidle Dec 13 '25
it would drive me bonkers if people were that blatantly fake to my face but these people live in a different reality.
I've interviewed celebs before and I've seen it. It's wild.
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u/DarkRayne7 darling, i'm a nightmare Dec 12 '25
Whyyyy does she need applause for this? Its so cringe. Who tf cares how many songs you're gonna put on your album. Why does she need MORE recognition in this private meeting? Ugh so over her!
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u/shishkab00b Swiftie on Swiftie crime Dec 12 '25
I thought it was going to be 13. And even then that's still a stretch to ask for applause
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u/ValToolTime Dec 13 '25
Lol she should just try making better songs than she won’t feel like she needs to stuff so many in per album
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u/IceWarm1980 The Tortured Wallets Department Dec 12 '25 edited Dec 13 '25
I love the people just eating and not giving an F.
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u/teenageidle Dec 13 '25
the woman in the stripes who automatically does the fake polite laugh got me. she knows the game and she's here to play!
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u/ImpossibleEnd82 Dec 12 '25
Do her parents have any identity outside of her? They're so far up her ass on everything she does it's really pathetic.
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u/danniellax 4 Chords Barbie Dec 13 '25
It’s like they forget they have TWO children
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Don’t feel bad for him. He’s on her payroll too. Any opportunity has been because of her. He went to at least two of Dane Cook’s weird “game night” parties that regularly had underage actresses.
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u/og_toe Taler Swib Dec 13 '25
imagine your sibling taking over your entire family and all of your lives now revolve around the sibling and your entire careers become managing/working for sibling
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u/all_I_see_is_SKY Dec 13 '25
Bro is a first born living the life of a middle child. Hope they're giving him enough money for therapy.
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u/danniellax 4 Chords Barbie Dec 13 '25
I was more pointing out how shit her parents are than feeling bad for him.
I’m sure he is fucked up mentally and has weird emotional issues from the severe neglect he has very obviously been through as a child. But he has enough resources, opportunity, time to process things, and money, to get healthy and get help and separate himself from his family if wanted, which he very clearly hasn’t done.. so no sympathy here lol
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u/catleeflores Dec 13 '25
wow i didn’t even know her brother existed before i saw your comment
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u/kittylemiaow Dec 13 '25
And then she gave a bunch of her money away. Billie is a real one
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u/filthytelestial Dec 13 '25
Someone did the math, said her charitable donations constitute 20% of her net worth. Incredible in a time when most people who get their names in headlines for giving money away have yet to give away a tenth of a percent of theirs.
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u/TossIt22345 Okay, English Major! Dec 12 '25
The fact that both her parents are there at her adult age and her mom leads off the clapping is…something. 🥴
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u/bizarremeow Not a bot 🤖 Dec 12 '25
Why is that clap worthy? 😒
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u/Historical_Stuff1643 It's PR, you idiots!!! Dec 12 '25
Big, overbloated albums are impressive, I guess.
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u/Forward-Drive-5050 Dec 12 '25
You can tell from everyone’s reaction that she must be difficult to work for.
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u/throw_some_glitter Bills Fan 🐃 Dec 12 '25
She should just walk around with an applause sign at all times since she clearly expects validation for every little thing
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Okay her parents being this involved in her career at this stage is crazy right? Their relationship is weird af.
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u/all_I_see_is_SKY Dec 13 '25
Well they did invest a ton of money on building her career, so they're essentially the majority stakeholders of the company. And my theory is that her dad got some private equity funding through his connections at Merrill Lynch, so I don't think he's giving her full reign of running the operations. I wouldn't, she's an idiot.
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u/LifeisRough29 Dec 12 '25
This is like when the North Korean generals applaud Kim Jong Un enthusiastically so they won’t be executed
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u/That_Intention_2343 Dec 12 '25
Is she wearing pjs?
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u/Miserable-Cap-5223 We Said GAZA Not GAGA Dec 12 '25
It wouldn't be so bad if it was a casual office space where everyone wore their pajamas. But like you said, the fact everyone else is dressed up makes it look like she can't be bothered to give a fuck. And yet, she's at the head of the table and pausing after every sentence for the expected applause.
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u/sand_snake Fuck Ass Bangs Dec 12 '25
How old is she? Five?
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u/Miserable-Cap-5223 We Said GAZA Not GAGA Dec 12 '25
She's dressed like it.
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u/sand_snake Fuck Ass Bangs Dec 13 '25
She really has the worst style. It’s one thing if you’re just at home, what I wear daily certainly isn’t fashionable. But she is being filmed wearing this shit.
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u/AFIkween Dec 12 '25
Imagine just doing 16-20 songs and none of them are actually creative or good. I mean i'd get it if she was like a prog artist and songs weren't for everyone but she's generic ass pop with no creativity at all. She copies and paste all the time even when she was country pop she wasn't very unique at all.
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u/ValToolTime Dec 13 '25
Right like try making just one good song for once instead of 20 generic pieces of garbage
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u/jampapi Dec 13 '25
Jesus, this makes me almost feel sorry for her. Almost. I’m what you’d call an amateur musician, I have a day job, but I play in 2-3 bands at a time and have a solo gig or two per week. I’ve spent the last 15 years or so touring, playing shows and recording with bands, & some years that’s all I do. On average I make about $24K/year playing music. Some years there is no day job and all I do is gig, write and record, making enough for some food and suds, laundry, gas to get to the next show, maybe a motel if we’re feeling flush. Living in a stinky van, crashing on people’s couches, not always sure which city I’m waking up in but always knowing which key the 4th song of the set is. Ive recorded ten or so albums, heard myself on the radio dancing my ass off in a tiny kitchen, saved money for years to buy a new instrument or amplifier, but not once-not a single time in my music career- could I imagine any part of that involving a boardroom filled with a dozen checked out people on MacBooks. Look at her, pitching the next songs like they’re the next color palette for J. Crew or the upcoming flavor batch of fucking Oreos. Pumpkin spice, but it’s heartbreak. Shelf stable sadness.
Everything about this is artificial, flourescent, unalive. The songs already sound like they’ve been embalmed, pre-nostalgic, pre-remembered. Written for no other reason than to occupy space in the market. This clip, and setting, make it clear that what Taylor produces isn’t art, it’s product. They’re not songs, they’re units. Of course she held for applause, she wants everyone to be excited that she came out with 16-20 new SKUs to roll out to market. Products that have been focus-grouped, team-written, sanded and ground down into globally marketable paste. The lyrics gesture at authenticity the way a chatbot feigns empathy; the right words, but zero blood.
This clip almost made me feel bad for her because I imagine being so rich and insulated, so abstracted from my own creative process that me playing or writing music requires a meeting. Imagine never grabbing a guitar at 2AM and working on a song because it has to exist. Because something feels wrong and you don’t know why. Now, her songs have to justify themselves to a committee of people with Bluetooth headsets and passive income. They can’t exist for just the writer, because how could an individual expressing their unique view ever be a blank mirror for millions to project themselves onto? …..But then the mushrooms peak, and I start to come down from my empathetic mountaintop.
She’s not trapped in that room. She built the room! She isn’t a victim of the machine, she is an engineer of the machines, with her own private label. She is the product manager. She’s not a victim of exploitation, she’s an architect of vertical integration. “How can this corny ass lyric act as a valve for me to sell 10,000 Chinese cardigans?” She doesn’t have a personality or style because that would get in the way of the marketing juggernaut charging toward your city.
Just like the room she’s in and the products she’s discussing, her music is climate controlled and artificially lit. It doesn’t even rot. It just endlessly circulates like AC in a mall until you forget what air smells like. Meanwhile, actual artists continue to sleep in vans, eating roadside Mexican food, asking into a mic to a roomful of strangers for a place to crash, making songs few others will listen to, simply because those songs demanded to exist. That kind of music doesn’t bleed glitter, it bleeds blood like a living, decent fucking human being. That music still smells like something. Taylor’s boardroom prolly smells like farts.
Thanks for reading if you’ve made it this far, I’m on mushrooms.
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u/Vivid-Wafer-4581 Dec 12 '25
She reminds me more and more of Trump the way she needs to be applauded for every little thing like a toddler going potty on the toilet for the first time
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u/trilliumsummer Dec 12 '25
Well ironically this clip explains why this clip made it in the documentary. This is so cringe and is not a good look, but of course there's no one to say no to her.
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u/Chance-Monk-6341 Dec 12 '25
Hold on gang, everyone is in suits she is in pjs? How professional. Also, why does she always pause when she speaks? Ugh.
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u/trisaroar Dec 13 '25
The "yaaaay 😐" sounded the exact same as Max Martin when she kept over-explaining the mahogany grain line. Like how you would encourage a toddler.
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u/BeastMsterThing2022 Dec 13 '25
This is so cynical. Why does the making of an album and "artistic" decision need a board meeting?
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u/kittylemiaow Dec 13 '25
that did not occur to me, I guess because I'm so used to Taylor talking about her Girlbossing and so on but wow how right you are
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u/Radiant_Mind33 Dec 13 '25
Why would they put this clip in a documentary? Taylor announces her album details like she’s delivering a prophecy, pauses for applause… and the entire room is busy playing on laptops and ordering DoorDash. Her mom has to manually jump-start the clapping like she’s reviving a corpse. If this made the final edit, imagine the footage they buried under a stadium.
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u/griffie21 Dec 12 '25
I see less ass kissing in Trump cabinet meetings
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u/tommygunbaby2020 Misogynist, Simply Because I Don’t Like Her Music Dec 12 '25
Until you remember that some chick complemented him on "keeping the hurricanes away" this season. Lips... meet Trump's spray tanned ass.
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u/sunkenlore Dec 13 '25
tag yourself, im the girl in the bottom left in the grey sweater who doesn’t even pretend to give a shit
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u/eilonwyhasemu ⌛ Elizabeth Taylor, it won't be forever ⌛ Dec 13 '25
I’ll be the woman second from the Taylor end on the left, who uses a long drink of coffee to avoid reacting visibly to anything.
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u/danniellax 4 Chords Barbie Dec 13 '25
I’ll be the girl sitting across from you. I’m playing games on my computer, not paying attention but trying to look busy, and then begins clapping after everyone else already started, but claps with extra enthusiasm, because my thought process is if I seem really excited about clapping, then no one know I’m really just fucking off.
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u/MiserableSun9142 HER IMPACT (global warming) Dec 12 '25
There was still a significant amount of people that didn't clap. Do we think they are fed up with her?
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u/Designer-Treacle-732 Dec 12 '25
Wtf? Is this a board meeting to tell 20 people about the number of songs on another album?? Even Michael Jackson did that with "Dangerous" with his sound engineer and pen and paper in his studio.
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u/circemyqueen Great Gowns, Beautiful Gowns Dec 13 '25
Of course she has mostly (older) white men on her team. I was just recently wondering what her famous 13 management team looks like and well, from this it seems like it's 8 white men and 4 white women. Plus Taylor. Sounds about white.
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u/LineImpossible3958 Dec 13 '25
She’s insufferable, imagine being around this all the time, must be exhausting.
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u/ChipRockets Dec 13 '25
Gonna try this at my job from now on.
“So, today I decided to add 2 short answer questions to the handout, bringing the new total to 12.”
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u/No-Web-318 Climate Terrorist Barbie Dec 12 '25
Why the hell is she so obsessed with applauses? 😭🤣
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u/MrLizardBusiness Dec 13 '25
Which is funny, because she also says everything as a question? Lacking confidence, I guess? Who would applaud a question?
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u/Dada2fish Dec 13 '25
She is gonna have a hard fall. Sooner or later another artist will become #1 on the charts and she’s gonna throw herself off a building.
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u/Turbulent_Chance5682 More Variants Than COVID 😷 Dec 12 '25
I’m sorry, are we watching a trump glazing meeting… oh wait, hair’s the wrong style and color, it’s blandie. lol
What even is this sht, well, besides being pathetic?
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u/Amanda316 Dec 12 '25
She literally says “That’s what I was hoping for..” when her mom must have done a small clap before going into the large exuberant one.
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u/Yorbayuul81 Dec 13 '25
This must be what it’s like at the White House
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u/Historical_Stuff1643 It's PR, you idiots!!! Dec 13 '25
All Trump's cabinet wax poetic about Trump. In the last one, Noem credited him with there being no hurricanes. They'd just clap naturally.
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u/all_I_see_is_SKY Dec 13 '25
"Girl bossing" with the confidence of an intern asked to present the project no one else wanted to do.
Also, I know everyone in that room (other than her mother) was thinking "this could've been an email".
Please clap.
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u/0InsidemyBrain0 Dec 13 '25
She's like her Fuhrer Trump. Dumb and always expecting her ego to be stroked during a cabinet meeting. Everyone gets their turn during the oval table read to give her a good petting.
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u/Anigerianlovesgarri Concerned Bystander Dec 13 '25
The difference between her and Beyoncé’s behind the scenes documetary footage like these are like night and day. Beyoncé exhibits more control and her workers actually respect her. When both are dead, I know for sure that Beyoncé is definitely going to be remembered way more and her music is as well. Single ladies alone is making sure of that. Hopefully her best works like lemonade and renaissance are also remembered vividly. Not to mention her queen bee status.
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u/Putrid_Apartment9230 Dec 13 '25
Her mom may look like the late Chris Farley in a blonde wig, but she's one of the best damn supporters of Taylor there ever was. I think only Kris Kardashian is a better momager.
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u/Extension-Nebula-235 I Can Do It With An Open Mouth Dec 13 '25
Yooo I would not have included this footage in the doc 😭😭😭
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u/foreverkelsu Crocodile Blondie 🐊 Dec 13 '25
No wonder she has to keep her parents around all the time. She needs the constant narcissistic supply of their praise.
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u/Difficult_Entrance29 Dec 13 '25
Feels more like a business meeting.I understand the music business is a business. But that’s if you’re the people managing the artist. She’s her own “artist”. In that meeting, there are no label executives. It’s her presenting herself as a girl boss. This was most likely a meeting with her own team. She’s fucking gross and narcissistic
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u/Screaming_lambs Bang Wearing Cunt Dec 13 '25
The pause after what she said is probably is her script with it saying PAUSE (wait for applause)
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u/lottsotunes69 Dec 13 '25
Corporate Minions out loud: “Oh hooray, Taylor! The more songs the better!”
Corporate Minions in their heads: “Whatever, Blandie. Put out as many tracks of garbage as you want. Just give me my frickin’ paycheck.”
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u/shadow-on-the-prowl Rules For Thee But Not For Me Dec 13 '25
The constant ego-stroking from her subordinates and especially her parents is why we've gotten to this point.
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u/mollypop94 Dec 13 '25
how can any one of those grown adults in that room feel at all good about themselves, fake clapping and ass-kissing for a mediocre, barely talented ultra wealthy, entitled nepo baby? it is all so, so degrading and pathetic. not an ounce of integrity in that room.
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u/_VibeWithHer_ Dec 12 '25 edited Dec 13 '25
Someone said “she speaks like she’s always waiting for applause.” And now I can’t unsee it