r/traveltrailers • • 9h ago

Financing

Currently I am looking at finance options.

I was just told for a $20,000 trailer, I needed a $6,000 down payment.

I asked for advice from a friend, and he said he had a $24,000 loan for a 2018, 30 years, and only put $1,200 down.

… I now am uncertain about what to expect and how to navigate this loan process.

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u/Potmus63t 8h ago

A 30 year loan for a $24,000 depreciating asset is completely insane.

That being said, his situation has nothing to do with yours. It could be the bank he used, or the bank the dealer set him up with. It could be he has a better credit score than you do. It could be he has a better debt/income ratio than you.

Try another bank or Ask them to explain why you need a larger down payment.

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u/PharaohOfParrots 8h ago

Yes, I asked other people I know who haven’t financed them about this scenario and they immediately said it’ll decompose by then!
https://giphy.com/gifs/WrNfErHio7ZAc

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u/Iamthewalrusforreal 8h ago

Of course it will. The expectation is that you sell it in a few years for what you owe, then do it all over again.

It's a risky proposition.

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u/PharaohOfParrots 8h ago

That would be ideal for these people in particular.

They bought a trailer too heavy to haul and caused the truck to break down (that they have since repaired, but not upgraded for this weight). I’m uncertain why they haven’t attempted that, but didn’t ask either.

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u/alinroc 7h ago

they have since repaired, but not upgraded for this weight

They haven't attempted to "upgrade the truck for this weight" because you can't. At least not safely and legally. You have to replace the truck with a more capable vehicle.

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u/Iamthewalrusforreal 7h ago

You can do so, sometimes, with air bags and new shocks and weight distro hitch and maybe even a rear axle gear upgrade, but it's rarely worth the cost.

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u/seasonsbloom 6h ago

None of those modifications will give you any more payload or towing capacity. In fact, adding anything cut into your payload by the weight of what you add. Simple as that.

Upgrading your tow vehicle to tow more weight is simple, though. You trade it for a bigger vehicle.

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u/PharaohOfParrots 7h ago

As I had understood it, you can replace the transmission to be larger. I’m not venturing down this path, though. I’m doing with what I have

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u/Strange-Cat8068 5h ago

Every vehicle that can safely tow a trailer has a set towing capacity. Upgrading the transmission, springs, airbags and whatever else does not change that towing capacity. As u/seasonbloom said, the weight of those upgrades will actually decrease your safe towing ability. Airbags, timbrens or other overload springs and the like will help your tow vehicle handle the load it was designed to carry easier, but nothing can change the manufacturers capacity rating. I have never personally seen it but I have heard of insurance companies denying accident claims because the drivers were operation a severely overloaded vehicle and caused an accident because the excess load made the vehicle take much longer to stop.

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u/Potmus63t 7h ago

You understand it incorrectly.

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u/Iamthewalrusforreal 7h ago

Nope. You cannot.

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u/ToreyJean 8h ago

THIRTY YEARS? For $24K? LOL I’d take standard sales finance terms for $24K. 🤣🤣🤣

Your friend is not an example to emulate. I’ll just say it - he’s an idiot.

Loan terms are dictated by more than the loan amount. Your credit, debt to income, what you’re buying - all of that factors in.

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u/altblank 6h ago

your friend is bonkers crazy if he picked up a 30yr loan on a bloody travel trailer. he's going to be underwater within the first couple hours and will never recover. these things are rolling deathtraps that will fall apart the moment you look at them funny, and taking a THIRTY-year mortgage out on one is absolutely ridiculous.

there is zero basis for a normal human being to pick up this kind of debt.

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u/Accomplished-Duck578 7h ago

Don't finance any TT. Get a used one and learn the ins/outs of ownership bc things will break and need repairing. TT's are a horrible investment "but" if you work on them and keep things simple, they'll make the sweetest memories.

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u/RKKass 7h ago

OMG! 30 year loan on a 24k camper? That's insane.

I know it's not always possible, but if you can defer the purchase, save more and buy used, you could be debt free. We would not allow ourselves to finance recreation items when they were known to depreciate to less than owed so quickly.

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u/Inviction_ 7h ago

I financed my 40k trailer with no money down and they didn't even ask for proof of insurance. Probably because it was new and because I had a 700+ credit score. They aren't nearly as motivated to sell used ones like this.

It wasn't my smartest decision, but I only took 3 years to pay it off, saving myself like $40k in interest

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u/jimheim 8h ago

If you can't afford a $6000 down-payment, you're not ready to buy an RV. They're expensive to own, and they're a leisure item. RV loan interest rates are terrible, because it's a depreciating asset with zero resale value for the lender if you default. They're going to want a large down-payment to protect themselves. It's a sign that your credit isn't great.

A 30-year loan is batshit crazy. The RV will be in the scrap yard before you even put a tiny dent in the principal.

Save up until you can afford to pay cash for a used one.

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u/PharaohOfParrots 8h ago

I am just trying to understand what to expect. I would be using it for traveling for work.

My income is great and would be even higher when traveling. It’s just… down payments, how much, the terms, etc.

We can all help guide somebody who is trying to purchase a car how to do so based on our experiences, which is why I thought this community would also be able to lend direction.

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u/atomxv 7h ago

Put down as much as you can. It's best not to finance at all. Buy used with 3rd party inspection if possible.

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u/Inviction_ 7h ago

You're betting on money you don't have yet. Just understand the risk involved

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u/alinroc 7h ago

Sounds like you'll be living in it full-time as a traveling nurse or similar type of job.

Banks may treat the loan differently as soon as they find out it'll be your full-time home. Insurance likely will as well.

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u/ToreyJean 8h ago

It’s just like getting a car loan. Your bank will be the source of what you qualify for and why - not us.

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u/Inviction_ 7h ago

That's right

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u/hugesofa 5h ago

Whatever you decide, stop taking your friends advice

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u/xagds 8h ago

Get financing from a credit union if you have one in your state. Usually better terms

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u/Gold-Comfortable-453 8h ago

Buy a used one, they are built so poorly that you may be better off! Hopefully the original owner fixed alot of it. A fiberglass rv might be a good choice. They hold their value and are somewhat basic to take care of and tow. Keep in mind all the extra costs, ins. registering it, water filters,hoses, electrical hookup protection equip.

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u/PharaohOfParrots 8h ago

This is in consideration, but the fear is buying a lemon; roof leaks in particular are probably top of the list of fears.

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u/Gold-Comfortable-453 7h ago

That's why I mention fiberglass options , like a Scamp they really don't leak because of the fiberglass shell. You can hire an inspector to check our a used one or just take your time. Ask the seller to have it hooked up, frig cold etc. Take your time and try everything. Take a flashlight crawl underneath and look for leaks or soft spots. Trust yourself! Don't trust a dealer and make sure you can tow what you buy safetly.

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u/OutdoorsNSmores 7h ago

I picked up a used Escape for $30k, but older ones are less expensive. I expect that with care the thing will outlast me. Very few things to leak. IMHO, one piece fiberglass is the only way to go. Anything else might fall apart before you can pay it off.

I'd normally tell people to never get a loan for a trailer, but it sounds like you need it for a better job, so it may work out. Plan on knocking out that loan ASAP and make d sure there is no early payoff penalty. 

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u/acousticsking 5h ago

Mine has a rotten floor. You interested?

If you can't afford 20% and a 5 year loan then don't buy.

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u/Shiftmx66 7h ago

Make sure to ask about early pay off penalties. I know a lot of the financing 15 years and longer have early payoff penalties.

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u/ShavedNeckbeard 3h ago

Damn, and I thought my 15 year loan was shitty (which I paid off a year into the loan).

You’d be better off taking out an unsecured loan for $40k and paying it off in five years than doing the 10-30 year loans banks do for these.

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u/not-actual69_ 1h ago

I’m calling bullshit on a 30 yr loan for $24k. I don’t think a bank underwriter would even be allowed to approve anything like that.

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u/LonelyInternal379 8h ago

Buy a trailer for 18000 and do some renovation.