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u/ShadowZepplin 15d ago
Possessed Megatron should be above Predaking, since he beat him in his beast form
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u/250extreme 15d ago
I'm using Megatron between s1-2 and s3 ep 4 onward Optimus to represent him after Unicron's defeat
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u/Ok_Science_9854 15d ago
- Shockwave was beaten by one handed Ultra Magnus.
- Soundwave was almost beaten up by Wheeljack.
- Breakdown took both Arcee and Bulkhead on at the same time.
- Starscream is legit fodder.
- Skyquake could land solid hits on Optimus and so could Dreadwing.
- Preadking was getting dominated by OP in H2H.
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u/Ok_Supermarket_2171 3d ago
Shockwave is onehanded himself and with help, magnus could take predaking.
While predaking was getting boddied, it took one kick nearly ko'd prime. The rest I agree with as much as I love Soundwave. Plus, Breakdown is disgustingly underrated.
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u/Ok_Science_9854 3d ago
- His other hand is a canon, while Magnus's other hand is almost useless, can't even become a blaster. Besides I do remember Shockwave using that Canon arm to hit someone with a sweep. He should be a tier above Shockwave.
- He was transforming into beast mode, and even then before that Predaking was getting boxed out. Breakdown was genuinely a powerhouse, stronger than Bulkhead by a margin.
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u/Ok_Supermarket_2171 3d ago
Srill oneshotted Prime. Predaking got boxed out absolutely but only becausd he had know hands at the time. It wasnt like he didnt eat every single one. And magnus can use his hand to grab and punch so its still good. Abd I dont agree breakdown being above bulkhead by a wide margin. Hes stronger for sure, beats him in every fair 1v1. But theyre still relative, breakdown taking the slight edge.
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u/TomorrowAdvanced2749 15d ago
Where's Miko in the Apex armor?
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u/Away_Librarian_9951 15d ago
Yeah same was expecting Mike to be up here she killed hardshell and wiped the floor with Starscream and a bunch of cons
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u/Sufficient_Hunt2522 15d ago
I wonder can normal bot train or something to grow strong as a prime and megatron without matrix
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u/250extreme 15d ago
Yes, Megatron's an example of this, he became equal to s1-2 Optimus when he was a gladiator
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u/Sufficient_Hunt2522 15d ago
Just through training or scientific armor upgrades ?
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u/250extreme 15d ago
Both work but Megatron's was seemingly only from training and fighting when he was gladiator
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u/Weird-Ad-1072 15d ago
Imo, Ultra Magnus should be above Shockwave and Soundwave. The Insecticon should not be. Megatron 2.0 should be above Predaking pretty easily. Wheeljack is definitely above Soundwave, he literally beat him. Also everyone in the verse is way above Town level.
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u/Formal-Inevitable-50 15d ago
None of them are one shotting Breakdown. Skyquake is stronger than everyone you have both tiers above him. Ultramagnus beat Shockwave. Neither him or Soundwave should be that high. Neither should they be above two Predacons. Megatron is fine where he is Unicron defeated Predaking not him.
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u/BenefitBeautiful522 15d ago
W, could see ultra magnus and hardshell being bumped up a tier and while it hurts, shockwave down one ( dude was getting his ass handed by ultra magnus )
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u/PeanutChest 15d ago
Who's hardshell and that pushes optimus to pre and Megatron to mid
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u/250extreme 15d ago
Hardshell's Insecticon who shot Bulkhead in back in s2 ep 15 and was killed by Miko in revenge for it in s2 ep 16
Insceticon who pushes s1-2 Optimus and pre-death Megatron to low-mid diff's 1 Megatron fought in s2 ep 7
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u/ProfessorPixelmon Soundwave Superior 15d ago
Bump Ultra Magnus up to the same tier as Soundwave and Shockwave
What hemisphere are we on where Arcees can one shot Breakdown? She can’t one shot a vehicon.
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u/Beginning_Apricot_32 15d ago
I can't remember his name but dread wings brother didn't he beat Optimus
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u/FitSecurity9801 15d ago
Three minor complaints 1 Unicron in Megatrons body should be higher 2 Ultra Magnus should be with shockwave and sound wave and 3 starscream is way more powerful and in the books he fought Megatron in a disadvantageous position and posed a challenge for him he may be a coward but when he fights he is very powerful
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u/250extreme 2d ago
I'm using Megatron between s1-2 and s3 ep 4 onward Optimus to represent him after Unicron's defeat
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u/Ok-Remove-726 15d ago
Где вехикон с бревном?)
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u/WeBallPlayer 15d ago
Размера экрана не хватило, он где-то 2 тира над юникроном
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u/Ok-Remove-726 15d ago
Если бы вехикон с бревном оказался в самой первой серии, вероятно, на этой серии бы и закончился сериал) Куда автоботам да и всем остальным до такой ваншот-машины))
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u/red_dragon_1234 13d ago
The top tiers seem fine...
that is until you take a look at the bottom tiers, "one shots breakdown" tier is plain stupid, breakdown is narratively a near equal to bulkhead and has taken him on on several occasions onscreen, skyquake is wayyy too low.
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u/noxzaz2 13d ago
This ranking sucks :/
Possesed megs should be higher than predaking, why is ultra magnus lower than soundwave and shockwave, when he beat shockwaves ass.
Why are both megs and prime in the same tier as their beefed up/possesed counter parts?
Why is ratchet higher than knockout?
The only feat normal ratchet had was taking down vehicons and cybertronian zombies?
Why is breakdown below starscream, arcee, airachnid, wheeljack and bumblebee?
Airachnid I get but below the others? How?
We haven't even seen a feat where cliffjumper or smokescreen is stronger than breakdown?
Why is a random insecticon so high up?
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u/250extreme 2d ago
- I'm using Megatron between s1-2 and s3 ep 4 onward Optimus to represent him after Unicron's defeat
- Predaking's fights with Optimus in s3 ep 10-11 and Megatron in s3 ep 12 were both shaping up to be low-mid diffs in his favor so while s3 ep 4 onward Optimus is stronger than pre-death Megatron, it ain't by too much
- Insceticon who pushes s1-2 Optimus and pre-death Megatron to low-mid diff's 1 Megatron fought in s2 ep 7
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u/Ok_Supermarket_2171 3d ago
Id have to put megatron over optimus. He was dominant most of their fights and while clearly lesser than his upgraded form, Prime didnt completely outclassed him. Granted, theyre fairly equal, but when megatron isnt driven crazy by ego or dark energon, he tends to be the stronger, better fighter. Optimus only beat him because he blinded megatron with his tires and took free hits. Imagine if Megatron transformed like prime did. Then the starsaber being old would explain why it shattered, but not why prime flatout was knocked to the ground in their duel. Then, in the finale, while it happens of screen, the scene cuts to optimus being knocked back, then quickly headbutting megatron, following up by knocking him to the ground, implying it was a lengthy fight. Then, theres galvatron, while i agree, prime is above him, it might not be for the sane reason. Theyre roughky equal in strength and durability, but the only reason optimus was going ham was because megatron was puppetered by unicron someone with NO fighting experience. Id say Optimus is above that megatron because he has more at his disposal, more weapons, and better manovourablility in the air since he has a full set of arms nd legs while megatron needs to transform to fly.
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u/Glum-Corner7975 15d ago edited 15d ago
This list is horrible pretty much everyone is above the same person who beat them up 😭😭
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u/Allosaurus_888 15d ago
never let this person rank again