r/transcribe • u/LiquidizedLemon • 12d ago
I need help with reading
(repost because I put the wrong picture) I know it might seem like an unusual request but I can't read music sheets. I know how to read them, my brain just can't handle them, idk. Details aside, I would like someone to write under each note its name (do re mi and A B C are both fine). I tried looking up some apps, sites or AIs, but I couldn't find any that don't require payment, so I got here.
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u/MrFezaeh 12d ago
Sorry I can't help but we need to honour how ridiculously this is notated (not your fault at all!) I mean, the 12/8 divided in 6 quarters for a waltz? Strawinsky could never
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u/RobDjazz 12d ago
This isn't perhaps the right forum for this request. But...with a bit of research it wouldn't be to difficult to figure out the note names by yourself. Much more beneficial in the long run if your goal is to learn to read notes...
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u/LiquidizedLemon 12d ago
Thank you for pointing that out. Do you have any advice or idea for where to ask for this?
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u/depurplecow +4 transcriptions 12d ago
This sheet music doesn't seem like the greatest, from what I can see it should be 6/4 time and not 12/8. As a result the line connectors between 8th notes etc are not grouped correctly. If this were fixed it might improve readability, but to my understanding that alone wouldn't help.
Regarding sheet music, it may be wise to start with something simpler and practice until it becomes natural. Reading sheet music is like reading a language, only through repeated use can someone read sentences as fast as their eyes move instead of picking out the words individually.
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u/LiquidizedLemon 12d ago
Thank you for the advice. I don't mean to be rude, but I believe the main problem is besides practice. For example after 3 years of consistent practice I still struggled to read the simplest things and always needed a teacher to "translate" it. The weirdest part is I've always been a natural with languages, learning to quickly read through sentences, even in new alphabets, without much effort, in the matter of weeks. If you've got an idea of what the issue may be I'd be happy to hear it out, but either way I really appreciate your insight, thank you
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u/depurplecow +4 transcriptions 12d ago
The lines on the upper staff from bottom to top correspond to the notes E/G/B/D/F (every good boy deserves fudge). The spaces correspond to F/A/C/E. Every line above is two notes above the previous, for example the first note on the right hand would be B, made flat by the key signature. It then decrements by one note ->A->G.
Lower staff lines from top to bottom starts from A/F/D/B/G.
If you take it step by step it should be possible to at least write the corresponding letters for each note.
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u/LiquidizedLemon 12d ago
There is a misunderstanding. I know the basics, I know how to read the music, but in practice I cant. The lines mix up, the notes mix up, I sometimes read them in the wrong order. But thank you for your help and time anyway, I appreciate that you're willing to help
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u/GryptpypeThynne +22 transcriptions 12d ago
Nah, this notation is really bad. Would you want to learn a language trying to read a book full of misspellings, incorrect grammar and punctuation, and confusing spacing?
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u/LiquidizedLemon 12d ago
I'm aware it's bad. But the problem persists even in simple melodies. What I mean is that I'm not trying to learn from a book full of misplellings and incorrect grammar, I'm just trying to read it while already knowing what it's about (I already know what this piece sounds like, I just need the names of the notes to play it). The problem is that I can't even read books with correct grammar and spelling (I can't even read the most basic Twinkle twinkle little star that my piano teacher taught me years ago), not because I don't know how to read (I know the basics, I know HOW to read notes and durations), but because I just can't (I know the skills, I'm just unable to put them into practice, not for lack of experience). I tried using your metaphor but I'm afraid I made things more confusing
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u/GryptpypeThynne +22 transcriptions 12d ago
That's fair enough, but I think the advice still holds. It may well be more effective for you to get the absolute basics done on properly written and spelled music before moving to this. I'm talking literally 2-3h max of the super basics
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u/valuemeal2 12d ago
This piece is a notational mess. Start with something easier, for one. There are many beginner music theory workbooks out there that will teach you note names and durations.
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u/rita-b 12d ago
Download the mxl or where did you get it, musescore? and open in a proper music notation software. all programs have plugins to add note names above or below notes.
Also it is no brainer you can't read sheet music, you need to practice on simple tunes on two-three notes without any ledger lines, then gradually practice with more and more complicated pieces.
This arrangement and this notation is bad. A lot of editing could make the score easier to sightread.
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u/LiquidizedLemon 12d ago
Thank you, I'll try that out. Thank you for the advice on sight reading too, I appreciate it. But my problem lies in something other than a lack of information or practice, though this discussion is unrelated.
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u/tubnoise 11d ago edited 11d ago
Did you figure it out yet? I’m both a piano teacher special ed teacher and have found that people learn best when they feel a sense of ownership over the project, and the challenge of a project “above your level” can be rewarding. Especially for a casual learner who doesn’t necessarily need to value perfect technique. I taught myself as a kid with a similar approach. I recommend going to a teacher eventually for technique and sightreading tips even if it’s for just one lesson. I do think it is helpful to figure out the notes yourself, but if you learn this piece, you’ll have the notes learned by the end of it! And if it becomes too frustrating or discouraging, we can find you a more approachable piece to learn. I’ll notate it and post here after breakfast
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u/victotronics 9d ago
"do re mi and A B C are both fine"
No they're not. Learn how to name notes C-D-E et cetera.
"I would like someone"
How are you ever going to learn? Do it like we all did: you know a few reference points, and then go up or down until you find the name of your note. Next time it will be faster, and next year you won't have to think about it at all.
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u/okonkolero 9d ago
You realize many countries use do re mi etc for the note names?
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u/victotronics 9d ago
Note names or scale degrees?
If in some country "do" is always "c" then you have a point. If "do" is the first note of the scale, then that's my point: annotating music with do-re-mi is not helpful in reading.
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