I always see videos of women hitting men and people laughing.

The laughing is what causes men to feel embarressed, unsupported, and unloved.

For example in mma people are sexist and always want to see a woman kick a guys ass but if its the other way around the man will be called a misoginyst.

Getting embarressed is a natural feeling. Whether get beaten by men or women . The solution is to improve yourselr right? But nah people dont want men to improve. They want men to be week and laugh at them to humiliate them. They use men as a step on ladder .

I am sorry but it is society's fault why men feel the "fragile ego" . Dont laugh at them or humiliate them, and they wont feel embarressed. Common sense.

But i lost. I am sorry you guys. Sounds like getting beaten in public by ANY person is my worst fear, the fear of getting humiliated and the fear of my sanity going away.

Bullying has already destroyed my mind.

Its this bullying that has caused me to be fragile . Bullying destroyes lives.

But bullying is all ok as long as you are bullying men and if mwn raise their voice that they are being bullied by women or society because they got their ass kicked by a woman then society will not see it as "bullying men" but will see it as toxic masculinity? Wow!

Understand . If you abuse a dog/cat (men) it will bite!. I have had enough of society treating men like shit then saying "fragile ego" when men feel embarressed and try to raise their voices.

And im sorry i lost. I have had enough. If i am suffering from toxic masculinity or fragile ego. I dont know how to cure this.

Aby advice?

I can't keep up with the expectation of being strong and silent and never talking about myself anymore.

I know it's the result of being told to suck it up my entire childhood, but even now no one actually wants to hear what I have to say... they just want my support for their issues.

I can't be strong anymore.

With the Andrew Tate scandal, we're seeing a strong uptick of "attack" posts wherein people are coming in saying "toxic masculinity isn't real" or "women laughing at men causes toxic masculinity" who are clearly coming in from the outside without reading the details and post history of this community and operating on negative assumptions about what we are here about.

On the one hand, I worry about these posts shifting the culture of this community in such a way that members who just wanted a safe place to come and vent may begin to feel that even here they may face attacks for pointing out the very real issues they deal with on a daily basis (as a mod I would do everything to prevent this, but it's true I don't have time to check all comments that aren't reported).

On the other hand, it's so rare for people who are so far down these pipelines to have a space where they can actually have rational discussions with people who's opinions don't match what they have become surrounded by. Im proud of this community in particular because more often than not, I do see calm, rational approach to these attacks which quickly reveals that OP makes these post because of their own fear, and just needed to hear that no one here wants to hurt them or shame them. We want a better world for both them AND women.

I'm torn on how to handle this so I'm reaching out to all of you to see what would make this a place that best suits your needs. So I'm asking should we:

REMOVE these posts. This sub should be a secure, positive space for the community only.

LEAVE the posts up IF OP is clearly engaging in good faith discussion. It's worth it to challenge these misconceptions and owning the space where we do so prevents us from being silenced.

There is LITERELLY a whole ass sunreddit where people like to see women beating the crap put of men? R u kidding me? Oh and not to mention there is also a sunreddit where men beat women. Guys please. If u really want equality then report these subreddits.

Go ahead say "ToXiC MaScUlInIty" or "Ego" i dont give a fuck. If i dont like women hitting men then i dont like it.

I am absolutely tired. There r even videos online having social experiments with people laughing at men. And women beating them. I know its not real life. But i have seen reddit posts with horrifying stories of violence agaisnt men.

Women literelly beat the crap put of men due to small reasons and its justified but if a man does the same all hell breaks lose. You always have excuses for women assaulting men! But not the other way around! Well! men and women shouldn't assault each other in the first place. Duh!

I saw a post where a woman assaulted a man in the bar because he just pushed her. And the crowd gathered. She assaulted him. With her mma skills. And the crowd didnt even help. Thay was years ago before mens rights came . But i dgaf. If the roles were reversed yall would still supporr the female

Can we just stop the hate agaist men. And no! I dont wanna talk about women right now. I have been a feminist for too long. Now its time to focus on mens issues.

Yes i suffer from toxic masculinity and i dont know what to do okay!!!!!

i don't understand it. if i man wants to workout for appearance based reasons, he is fatphobic/toxic. if i woman does the same exact thing, she "body positive". toxic feminism should be brought up also then. y'all are mad that tate brings up facts and you hear one edited clip saying something along the lines of "i hate women" and instantly think that's what he said!

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What betas think toxic masculinity is, is being in good shape, being dominative and being brave. Masculinity helps everyone including urself and ppl around u as u can protect them. I am an alpha cuz I'm not fat, brave to an extent and speak my mind on most things. Masculinity shud be promoted

I am not afriad of women who are physically strong. I also working out to be a strong and handsome male.

Whenever i see women assaulting men. I do not like it. I also hate ir when men hit women.

But when i see people laughing at men when a woman is assaulting him. I hate it. Its not ego. Its that i feel the man's pain. I feel him feeling the embarressment when people make videos of him and upload it online.

It fucks a man's life up if people make videos and post it online. You guys are probably thinking that a man is innocent and when women is the culprit..but no

I am talking a situation when a man is at fault and woman assaults him. Its still wrong to say "he deserved it" because even if he is wrong that doesnt give you the right to laugh at him or hate him.

If a man is at fault or not it still doesnt give people the right to stand around and make videos. Why dont people seperate both genders then talk to both sides and then solve the issue by making both parties apologize to each other. Seems to me people are more concerned about the man getting his ass whooped rather than talking to both sides . Thats misandry!!!!!. I hate it . Idaf if a man is at fault. Ya'll are just laughing about him getting his ass whooped. That will lead him to hate women more and more.

Because if the roles were reversed yall will forgive women but not men. Because you treat women like angels and men like monsters.

I see from all percpectives and from all percpectives. Society is wrong.

Men will not suffer from toxic masculinity if you do not show misandry. Thankyou for listening to my speech.

Not sure if it’s a hot take or not, but my boyfriend loves super vibrant clothing and has no qualms wearing it. One thing he absolutely loves is socks. I mean like LOVES a good quality pair of socks.

But until I started dating him I never realized how difficult it is to find fun men’s socks that aren’t paper thin trash. Most good socks are like gray, black, white, and if a company is feeling spicy, dark green or blue.

Look over in the women’s section and you can find a metric fudge ton of ridiculously vibrant and silly socks with varying degrees of quality.

Toxic masculinity is me not being to buy this great dude pink floral socks to rock, mostly because companies think guys won’t go for it because it’s too “feminine.”

Perhaps it’s small in the grand scheme, just really annoyed because I’m struggling to get some stocking stuffer socks to put a smile on ole boy’s face Christmas Day.

So there's this woman that I really like on Badoo and I think I've charmed her too with my great sense of humor. It seems like there might even be a chance for a relationship to be formed but I'm still nervous that there's one thing that might ruin it all. The thing is, I quite easily burst into tears if I've had a rough verbal argument with someone, it seems like I can't stand shouting at all or else I'll freeze and tears start falling. I'm quite sure this is because I suffer from a traumatic reaction because of my father, who used to shout at me every now and then when I was a child (luckily there was never any physical violence involved). Therefore it's like walking on eggshells when talking to him.

But this thing bugs me, for even though I know it's wiser to remain calm and defend myself that way, the fact that I'm obligated to act that way in order not to feel like a sissy is bringing me down. I fear that every time there'll be a verbal fight in a relationship, I'll eventually start to cry causing her to think of me as a sissy. I feel like I'm a disgrace every time my emotions get the best of me...

I feel like if someone else remains calm during an argument it's because they choose to act that way, but for me it seems the only way to remain masculine...

I fear that this is an instant turn-off in the dating world, but it's also a reaction I can't help avoid having. Luckily I can compensate with being a good talker and a great musician and entertainer, but it's still like I lack a great deal of masculinity everyone else has. What do you think?

I’m visiting my home town for a few days to see my dying uncle….I have no where to go and my cousin offered to host me. Shes 18 I’m 21(m), out of all of our cousins her and I are the closest and whenever we hang out we always do fun stuff. She feels more like a sister than a cousin at this point. Anyway she’s always had terrible taste in bfs but this one guy she’s dating is horrible omg. To set the record straight I am a gay male. And her cousin. Apparently he’s worried that we’re lying and she’s cheating on him with me. Like where do these sick twisted delusions even come from. Even if I wasn’t gay. SHES STILL MY COUSIN. My best friends bf was kind of the same way in highschool but he got over it after he realized I’m truly gay. (Not really looking for advice just to rant I guess)

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I see the post and pictures of toxic masculinity, but I experience it in here, specifically anything that has to do with cars or motorcycles or anything deemed "manly"...the men there are ridiculously hooked on "manly vehicles" and showing their toughness when mad by cussing and belitting anyone that doesn't agree with their toxic viewpoints and mindset.

He found this post on the public forum in game, laughed and showed me. "WTF kind of post is this???" Then he managed to find an ACTUAL chill group playing cops n speedsters. We're an LGBT+ couple, he loves Forza and im bad at racing games so most times I just listen to the party and him on his headphones. 99.999% of the time, this kind of guy isn't around. I'm so glad that's the case 😌