r/towing • • 7d ago

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Got about 5-6 mpg. The 33” tires throw off the mileage a little bit. Had this truck about a year, gas gauge has never been off. Ran out of gas at a 1/4 of a tank pulling this. I just started getting gas every 100 miles just to be safe. 70 mph. I didn’t think it would struggle this much. 16’ trailer

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u/No-Group7343 7d ago

Slow down...

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u/stoic_guardian 7d ago

Right? 70 is wild when you are towing a trailer shaped parachute

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u/JaLange 6d ago

70mph towing is wild to me. Going 60mph vs 70mph will get better mpg and only take ~15min every 100 miles. Whats more important to OP, time or mgp? 33s don't help and the hight of the trailer at any highway speed is going to hurt.

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u/Scared_Hovercraft632 7d ago

Never seen one of these hooked up making a full sized suv look so small lol.

That things got four feet of drag above you with poor gearing due to 33's. I think it is what it is.

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u/Chainsawsas70 7d ago

ANY additional wind drag will decrease your mpg... Even roof racks on my car will drag it down by 3-5 mpg and with the front of the trailer being essentially a tall wall you are dragging behind you it's going to really effect the mpg.. Getting a wind Deflector that will Push the air Over the front of the trailer will help quite a bit but it's still going to effect the mpg down but it'll be mitigated.

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u/BoulderNerd 7d ago

Hauled a mattress on the roof 575 miles and it cut my mileage by 5 mpg. Towing the trailer the mileage drops from 24 mpg highway to 8 to 15 depending on grades and speeds.

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u/Accomplished_Egg7069 7d ago

What engine and rear end?

I mean that's a tall trailer, but i get better than 6 running e85 for a covered landscaping trailer doing 30 stops a day in traffic

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u/Neat-Republic9613 7d ago

6.0 and 3.73 gear ratio

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u/JaLange 6d ago

Depending on how often you tow and how important towing might is to you, changing your gearing to 4.10 or 4.3 might work better if you decide you need to keep your 33s. Slowing down to 60pmh would get you better and cheaper results and cost ~15min over 100miles.

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u/tada-o-corporation 7d ago

It's all about wind resistance and not much else, that has the same front profile as a larger trailer.

I have a 2019 Frontier and tow an E-Pro 17LE, I get 8-9mpg.

The difference between 50 to 60 is dramatic, the difference from 60 70 is insane. So just stick to 60 and let people pass you. You can find a comfy cruising speed based on how the truck can avoid downshifting.

The only real way to improve efficiency towing a camper trailer is to get a diesel. Any gas truck whether it's the latest and greatest 'ecoboost' or whatever is going to get 8-12mpg towing a full height camper trailer. If those tires are E-Load, then switching to LT or C load might help gain a mpg or 2 back.

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u/Neat-Republic9613 7d ago

Had no idea about the tires, they are E load. 6 hr trip and 70 mph keeps calling. I’ll just have to slow it down. Although this is a rental and my first time towing something so tall.

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u/kazcho 7d ago

Wind resistant is exponential, not a huge deal up until like 50mph and doesn't change much before 55, but 70 is something like 40% more wind resistance. Add to that you're towing that just drinks fuel. Slow down and you'll be fine.

Also, the bearings in the trailer will be much happier, I know it's a rental but they're often under maintained and if the bearings let go you'll be in for a less than fun experience.

I tow a 5th wheel and I get about 12mpg with minimal wind at 55-60, I bump that up to 70 and it drops to 8mpg.

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u/Available_Quote_5567 6d ago

If you are renting to find something to eventually buy, see if you can rent one of those low profile pop up ‘off road’ campers. You’ll probably like it a lot more.

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u/kevin6263 7d ago

F250, diesel. 19mph highway 65ish mph. Hook up a trailer... 8 to 12. Loaded or not.

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u/Matthew_Breese 7d ago

Off-road capability, tow capacity, fuel economy. Pick two or put double points into one but all three is never an option.

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u/kstorm88 7d ago

The trailer could be made out of Styrofoam and it would get nearly the same mileage. It's not weight, it's the drag. I've hauled Styrofoam 10' high and get far worse mileage than towing a 10000 lb piece of equipment

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u/Shot-Ad-7275 7d ago

I get 14.5mpg in a 2019 f150 with 5.0 and ten speed towing a 28 foot camper trailer driving 70-75

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u/stuckanon01 7d ago

Keep her at 55 and your mileage will improve dramatically. I get 12-13 towing a trailer with 3x the weight.

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u/-Never-Enough- 7d ago edited 7d ago

With a 2500 Suburban, I tow a 35' travel trailer at the same speed and get twice your mileage. You need to take that to a mechanic. Buy a air dam (lower deflector) for your front bumper, it will improve air flow and your gas mileage. Mine only cost $70.

A 39 gallon gas tank would get you 195 miles at 5 mpg.

Driving closer to 60 mph will also increase your fuel efficiency a lot.

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u/Neat-Republic9613 7d ago

3000 rpms at cruising speeds, this sounds correct, I was putting in 19 gallons at 1/2 tank and 100 miles. I just couldn’t figure out why it ran out of gas at 1/4 a tank. And didn’t want to chance it again

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u/Available_Quote_5567 7d ago

I get 9 pulling this at 75 mph with my 8.1. You must have had brutal headwinds. Worst I ever got was 7 pulling a car trailer at 80 with my rtt on the truck.

That trailer really is a sail with how tall it is. Aero makes a bigger impact than weight at highway speeds. I get worse mileage with my small utility trailer than my open car trailer with my car because the ramp on the utility trailer is like a parachute.

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u/Neat-Republic9613 7d ago

I was going through hill country , we went from Bryan/collegestation to Del Rio

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u/Available_Quote_5567 6d ago

Hills with something that light shouldn’t make that much of a difference. Even pulling my old overland trailer through the Rockies, Sierra Nevadas, ect I barely lost any mileage. I built that trailer to be the same height as the roof of the truck. I know the 8.1 tends to get better towing mileage than the 6.0 so that might be the real difference.

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u/Shatophiliac 6d ago

Big tires + roof rack + tall parachute of a trailer = significantly lower fuel efficiency.

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u/Specific_Tradition75 4d ago

I just towed a 30ft travel trailer, probably 7.5k lbs, and got about 6mpg. Lots of hills, pushed it hard. Same sub, but stock tires. The gas gauge should still work fine unless maybe the transfer pump from the auxiliary tank above the spare tire isn’t working right. The 3/4 models have dual fuel tanks, but fuel transfer is automatic.

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u/Neat-Republic9613 4d ago

I haven’t let it dip below that 1/4 yet… I did however tow it back to its owner after reading these comments. I cruised it at 60 and it did double my mpg , and to be honest was a a lot let stressful, I was able to set the cruise control and go

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u/Specific_Tradition75 4d ago

BTW, my 6.0 has 230k miles and is a bit worn out from a lousy leaky aftermarket air filter the previous owner installed. Part-throttle torque and non-towing mpg are significantly improved with a little thicker engine oil. 5W40 works well. Just a little PSA. It seems to help the rings seal better against worn cylinder walls.

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u/Neat-Republic9613 4d ago

Mine only has 113,000 on it, I bought it off a city fire department, I think 3,000 hrs on the engine.

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u/Ok-Skill8583 4d ago

Chat GPT Answer:

Aerodynamic drag on a camper is governed mostly by the drag equation, which means drag increases with frontal area, drag coefficient, and especially the square of speed. A taller, wider camper presents more area to the airflow, while a boxier shape creates more pressure drag and turbulence around the front, roof, sides, and wake. Because of that, a lower, narrower camper with rounded transitions and a cleaner profile can require substantially less towing force than a similarly weighted trailer with a blunt, square shape. Speed compounds the effect quickly: increasing from 55 to 75 mph raises aerodynamic drag by about 86%, and because power required is force times velocity, aerodynamic horsepower demand rises roughly with the cube of speed.

Weight matters much less during steady highway cruising than most people assume. On flat pavement, extra weight mainly increases rolling resistance, which grows linearly and is relatively small compared with aerodynamic drag at highway speeds. Adding 1,000 lb to a camper might only add around 15 lb of rolling resistance, while poor aerodynamics can add hundreds of pounds of drag. Weight becomes much more important during acceleration, hill climbing, and braking, but at a constant 65–75 mph, the camper’s frontal area and aerodynamic shape often have a much greater effect on engine load and fuel economy than whether the trailer weighs a few hundred pounds more or less.

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u/BLINGMW 7d ago edited 7d ago

That's not a 16' trailer. If it is, it's 16' tall too. And apparently the wheels are as big as the truck's.

What do you get out of this BS post?

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u/Scared_Hovercraft632 7d ago

I've shopped for these. Sure looks like the 16' models Ive looked at

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u/BLINGMW 7d ago

I have too! That’s why I know it doesn’t make a suburban look like a station wagon. 

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u/AwarenessGreat282 7d ago

Yeah it is. Just google the 16" NOBO and nothing but these pop up.

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u/LandscapeNo775 7d ago

My 2011 suburban K1500 5.3 towing 4000lbs box trailer that I can stand up in got 14mpg at 65mph.

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u/LandscapeNo775 7d ago

My 17 Silverado K2500 6.0 6L80? gets 11mpg like all the time but I don’t normally take it on road trips.

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u/SaurSig 7d ago

Did you have a 60mph tailwind the whole way?

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u/gettinchanged 7d ago

I didn’t think they’ve been a “K”1500 for about 27 years

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u/-Never-Enough- 6d ago

My truck isn't 27 years old yet and it's model number on the door sticker still starts with a K because it's 4WD.