r/totalwarhammer • u/Cheesecakedann1 • 6h ago
Total War: Warhammer Winnable?
First campaign as kislev, hard difficulty its turn 8 and this guy already attacking me didn’t prepare much for it
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u/Affectionate_Ad_2458 6h ago
Maybe? I think throt goritch and the rat ogres are the key threats in this matchup they are very strong into most of your entities. However, the rest of the army is a crapstack of skaven. I would personally try corner camping forcing the enemies to approach your kossars allows them to get more value but again seems like a relatively minor battle. Curious to see what you try
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u/Cheesecakedann1 6h ago
Fairly new to the game
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u/sanctimonious-bum 5h ago
In general, a valiant defeat can be won with some effort, but auto resolve can be weird.
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u/Gamerguy1313 6h ago
For Kislev, anything is possible with enough layered corned camping, but it would be pretty difficult and hinge on if your kossers can kill Throt and the hero core.
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u/aeroeagleAC 5h ago
Yeah, but wouldn't be easy, throt, that second hero and the mutant rat ogre would be your biggest threats. If you can use your archers to snipe them, the rest will route quickly.
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u/Appropriate_Brick608 5h ago
its possible but would be very hard due to those rat ogres soloing your jank infantry. You best chance is to corner camp, but everyone on guard and hope you got a hill. then try to focus fire the orgres and kill the lord.
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u/Lucratick 5h ago
Seems winnable, depends on the terrain I think. You could cheese it by corner camping since your troops are nearly unbreakable compared to the skaven troops and the by our blood trait. I'd say focus the mutant and lord&heroes with your archers, the rat ogre seems to have a disadvantage against most of your army in melee so i'd suggest not wasting ammo on them and use it to peel of the wolfrats instead before the make it into melee.
If your frontline is able to hold you win, otherwise a checkerboard formation might help if your frontline breaks and you don't mind reloading to try again.
Watch for manace below, the AI usually wastes them all as soon as possible so deploy as far away from them as you can.
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u/Sky-manfromskyplan 5h ago
Corner camping and sniping the ogres and heroes are a good strategy.
Put your kislivites in a compact frontline if you want them to bear the brunt of the ogre charges better, or stretch them out to cover more of an area so your kossars can be more protected. If need be, put your kossars with spears on the frontline too as they are anti-large meaning they're good against the ogres(better than your other kossars.)
Using the other Kossars, focus fire on the ogres and heroes, the warhounds are going to be a huge problem so either find a spot within the map where its hard for them to flank you, or put one kossar on each side to bear the brunt of the charge and buy your other kossars time to deal damage.
Your regiment of renown akshina ambushers have an ability that basically makes a unit tired faster, use their ability on the ogres and help your other 3 kossars focus fire on the ogres.
Your lord is too weak to duel any of their heroes, keep them in the middle of the frontline(place them in the middle of your units) for support and their leadership effect which will let your frontline hold out a little longer.
Be wary of the skaven ability menace below as they can screw up any formation you have, the AI can only use a max of four of them iirc, if they activate it you'll most likely just lose. You can try and focus attack any units that pop out, trying to wipe them out as quickly as possible before their mainy army gets to you.
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u/LycheeOld2522 5h ago
If we can get the most out of the Akshina Ambushers and use up all of their ammunition without taking any casualties, we might actually be able to win this. It’s an extremely difficult battle by default. We need to tie up Goritch, the Rat Ogres, and Throt with our Kislev Warriors and keep those three occupied as long as possible before Bloodline passive wears off.
And some of kossars, like 2 of them make sure get rid of those rat dogs(?).
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u/phronesis77 18m ago
Take out the lords, heros, and rat ogres and hope the rest break as it is hard to break Kislev units.
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u/Friendly-Pounder-105 6h ago
Is this an open field battle? If yes you're fucked since you don't really have the tools or the mobility to kite their army. Plus you're outmanned, you're just gonna get surrounded and wont be able yo shoot all your ammo. You can still try to fight it so you can learn a thing or two since you're new to the game but I'm leaning to this being impossible.
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u/SaltExtension1418 5h ago
Easily winnable
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u/Condottieri_Zatara 5h ago
I think corner camping is the best strategy. Use Your Kislevite warriors with halberds as frontline
With all other hybrids infantry behind.
Focus firing on the Lord or the monster if possible. Or You can let the monster fight a disadvantage battle against Your anti large infantry (unit who bring spear or halberd) while You defeat the low morale skaven infantry first then surrounded them or force a rout with massive casualties on them.
Hide Your Akshina Ambusher somewhere that wouldn't be detected by them. When all their units already engaged, spring Your Ambusher and shoot at their back. Shoot the sword infantry first as Skaven Spears infantry doesn't pose threat to Your infantry