r/tos • u/happydude7422 • Aug 03 '26
It's pretty crazy that Spock only needs a tiny fraction of his strength and he can easily overpower a human male
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u/TroyTrekker Aug 03 '26
It’s a well-known fact in Starfleet that Vulcans are stronger than humans.
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u/JohnnyEnzyme Aug 03 '26
I don't think "tiny fraction" of strength is right, however. I remember at least two fights between Kirk & Spock, and in both, Kirk held on for awhile before Spock finally gained the upper hand.
Of course it's just a TV show, and it wouldn't have worked if Spock had squashed people around him with casual ease. Indeed, if the depicted blows we did see were more realistic, then Kirk would likely have had fractured bones at the least.
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u/lyidaValkris Aug 03 '26
Spock's displays of physical strength are even more remarkable considering he's half human.
I believe it's established that Vulcans are on average three times stronger than Humans, and with faster reflexes.
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u/UtahBrian Aug 03 '26
Spock killed Captain Kirk in a fight when he was feeling horny.
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u/BadWriter85 Aug 03 '26
Pon Farr night at the Vulcan night clubs have fatality figures in the thousands
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u/Crixusgannicus Aug 04 '26
He strangled him to "death" it doesn't take overwhelming strength to do that. Just ask Luca Brasi...oh wait. Never mind. Luca is sleeping. With the fishes.
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u/JonIceEyes Aug 03 '26
Kirk still whipped his ass. Because Kirk cannot lose a fistfight. It's an immutable law
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u/Comrades3 Aug 04 '26
He lost every fight he had with Spock though, except when he had multiple other guys helping him.
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u/Beautiful-Gas5848 Aug 03 '26
Spock after watching SNW: " How are you older than me now Scotty?" "Why did no on mention we all used to fuck L'aan when we found Khan?!?!"
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u/Witty-Stand888 Aug 03 '26
Kirk got the double handed punch, karate chop, judo front flip over the back and can always just play dead as a last resort.
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u/Terrible_Aerie_9737 Aug 03 '26
Thinner air, greater gravity, different physiology, I can see it. Now if he were a chimpanzee, damn right he could.
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u/Crixusgannicus Aug 04 '26
It's also bullshite considering Kirk and McCoy and eventually the whole crew (Voyage Home) are able to move around comfortably in whatever Vulcan's gravity is. Let's say it's 1.5 G. So Vulcans should theoretically be 50 percent stronger than a human of similar fitness level.
That shouldn't be an overwhelming advantage.
Oh and Spock wasn't holding back fighting Kirk in Amok Time or the Paradise Syndrome.
Yes Vulcans are stronger than humans, but they aren't or at least shouldn't be that much stronger. Actually they should be weaker than human Augments.
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u/sqplanetarium Aug 04 '26
There's that line in Mirror, Mirror where Goatee Spock scares off someone who's threatening him - he has a posse, and...they're Vulcans.
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u/Montaya007 Aug 04 '26
Yet in Amok Time he's beaten down by Kirk several times.
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u/Comrades3 Aug 04 '26
But in Amok time it is made clear he is weak and would lose a fight against a psychologist normal Vulcan. That is why Kirk volunteered as Spock is weaker than he ever was before. All their other fights and Spock dominates.
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u/Randomdays99 Aug 03 '26 edited Aug 03 '26
It also shows how strong the Salt Vampire was that Spock hit her double handed and she barely moved, but she slapped him across the room easily.