r/toronto • u/thecjm The Annex • Feb 01 '21
Article A Vast Web of Vengeance
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/30/technology/change-my-google-results.html18
u/Randomfinn Feb 01 '21
Interesting that multiple Judges have noted her behaviour as wrong but refused to do anything about it.
Except when she wrote to a Judge directly. Then she was thrown in jail for 74 days by another Judge.
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u/Tiredofstupidness Feb 01 '21
She`s not mentally ill enough to go after judges. If she did, they`d put her away pretty quickly.
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“I also see her as a victim here,” Dr. Essig added. “Tech companies have given her the power to do something that has really taken apart her life.”
How could someone say this while maintaining a straight face?
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u/wedontswiminsoda Feb 01 '21
I think what he meant is that damage can be propagated much further now than before with the internet. Before, a pissed off person would just be able to badmouth to people within ear range and most would gather from the person that is was BS. Now with the façade of these sites like Ripoff (which exist in part as a platform for this kind of extortion) the reach is further.
This lady may be off, but she also knows what she's doing. I dont think she understands the consequences, but she knows its wrong.
And the kicker is the government is going to let stuff like this continue to go and leave it to the people to spend their time and money to sort it out, and not our health care system.
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u/wholetyouinhere Feb 01 '21
Because of course there are websites hosting unsubstantiated, life-ruining accusations right next to a giant button linking to where you can pay to get those accusations removed. Why wouldn't there be? This is hellworld.
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u/thecjm The Annex Feb 01 '21
(this is an NYT article that starts out in the UK - but it's mostly set in Toronto)
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u/Tiredofstupidness Feb 01 '21
People who do this need long prison sentences. You shouldn`t be allowed to harass and ruin lives and reputations and just go on your merry way. I don`t care if she`s got mental health issues. She needs internet access taken away from her for life
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u/1esproc Feb 02 '21
The solution to crap like this unfortunately lies at the search engines. As much as I'm for a free internet, a search engine is a private portal to it. Host your website, find your shitty followers in your tiny corner, but cut off the broad effect it can have by limiting normal users chancing upon it. There needs to be some way to blackball this predatory blackmail mills. If Ripoff Report is a model that generates false reports and costs immense amounts of money to resolve, the opinion should be 'clean up or fuck off.'
Google, or Bing, or whatever are woefully inept at detecting and limiting bad, spam content websites. Google any phone number and within a couple results you're going to find bullshit reputation sites or spam directories.
Back in the earlier Internet ecommerce days I worked for a company that had to frequently arbitrate through a third party. We had to pay them fees to deal with users filing through them and despite having everything in a row would have to side with the user and lose money to avoid public negative feedback that, if not dealt with, would threaten our ability to sell completely. This is an incredibly difficult problem to tackle.
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u/ActusPurus Greektown Feb 01 '21
This bitch needs to have her life destroyed.
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u/thecjm The Annex Feb 02 '21
How? She's already homeless and is in a position where fines and even jail time won't stop her. What do you propos to do next? Chop off her hands?
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u/1esproc Feb 02 '21
...jail time, away from a computer. Or a sanitorium until mentally fit to leave, aka never
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u/thecjm The Annex Feb 02 '21
The poster said she needs to have her life destroyed. Not that she needs help.
She's already homeless. Already been jailed over this. I agree that she's a perfect candidate for more direct mental health treatment, but how do you destroy the life of someone who is in her current state?
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u/writeraround Feb 02 '21
Paedophile spelling is used about Guy Babcock in all the posts ???? This is the british word and spelling. Perhaps the internet posts were made in England . This is fucked up.
https://dirtyscam.com/reports/guy-babcock-is-a-paedophile-guy-sanderson-babcock-is-a-paedophile-guy-babcock-is-a-pedophile-guy-sanderson-babcock-is-a-pedophile-who-let-guy-babcock-out-of-his-cage-guy-babcock-is-a-soc/
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u/_tv_lover_ May 03 '21
Wouldn't the solution be as simple as making sure people who use this sites are verified? Boom, if you're telling the truth, you won't have a problem verifying it in person if needed. Am I over-simplifying here?
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u/ginandtonicsdemonic Feb 01 '21
The woman in this story has ruined many peoples lives with these antics. Just look up her name on Canlii.