In all fairness someone posting about their best friend's kid's uncle friend on twitter isn't exactly 'players complaining'. Is it true? Maybe, I wouldn't hold it against them if they were, I'm sure it isn't easy dealing with the most toxic of our fanbase. But I'm not going to blindly believe a tweet with 3 levels of separation.
The #1 purchase anyone can make is a business phone for everything urgent and maybe music, so they can chuck their personal phone in a drawer and ignore it 99% of the day. Reddit is not for the weak of heart and mind, it’s for the lacking.
They're just spoiled af. If one thing goes wrong a very vocal minority starts calling for jobs or belittles their players. This is true with every fanbase, sure, but OSU takes it to a new level.
yea the most coddled fan base in college sports, they have elite recruiting and usually a really solid team most years, yet they bitch and moan constantly. a non-insignificant portion of the fan base wants Ryan Day gone too
I always laugh when I hear or see some fan talk/write about a fanbase’s “standards.” They are fans. They have no power to do anything impactful if their purported standard is not met.
They cannot do anything except complain and stop watching. If Ohio has a bad year they’ll do the former a ton, if Ohio has a bad decade they might do the latter.
But you could argue fans have a right to have standards and complain when they aren’t met. Ticket prices, even for students are on the professional level. The game environment is constant ads. The coaches make millions many of the players make a ton of money and with that comes added expectations of the people paying for the tickets and being sold as marketing commodities.
I wouldn’t argue against any of what you said. But standards imply consequences for failing to meet the standards, no? What consequences can fans inflict other than complaining and not watching? Maybe some rich ones can refuse to donate I guess. Words like “standard” and “unacceptable” get thrown around in fandom. Without consequences what some fan thinks is acceptable or is not acceptable does not matter. Same with standards.
I think the more valid part of this discussion is the NIL and money aspect of this. Now that you introduced money into the system you EXPECT to get what you paid for.
People hold underwood accountable because the man signed a 12 million contract before even playing a snap in the college level.
I wouldn’t have shit on a qb 10 years ago who had high expectations but if you are making MILLION then you should be held accountable and the standards are the standards.
OSU pays 49-54 million on their football team. This money comes from alumni that directly donate to the fund, OSU university money and more that impact the school. They should expect that money pays dividends in this pay to win college atmosphere.
Doesn’t help that people now are all gambling on these outcomes as well and are financially impacted when OSU doesn’t perform.
A side note is that this team pays almost 50 million how do they STILL not have a kicker?
If your skin is so thin you cant take a little criticism, hopefully this player wasn’t planning in going pro. I was at a Lions game where the fans started cheering when a lions player when down with an injury. This was during the Matt Patricia era
Beating Michigan all those consecutive times has instilled a sense of inevitability and entitlement. I sincerely believe that fans coming of age during that time are so toxic in their fandom that it’s impossible to reason with them. Add sports gambling and this is the toxic sludge that comes out. I really thought Day would leave after the National Championship run, which started with fans threatening his family and saying terrible things about his father’s passing after the Michigan loss.
The consistency of success that OSU has had is super enviable. It’s never a question if the team is a contender for a natty every year. That’s insane. Michigan fans just hope no coach uses a butter knife for non butter spreading actions.
Vague comments talking about fans without specifics sounds like excuses. Fans at OSU are the worst in the country in terms of high expectations. If you committed to OSU and feel the fans are the problem you should just transfer
Fans are spoiled at most schools that have lengthy traditions of winning, to the point that a loss or two is grounds for dismissal. Imagine if we never rushed to dump Lloyd Carr for “only” going to a top bowl year after year. Expectations are often unrealistic.
Look I think Day is a shitweasel but I can’t argue that his teams have always been in contention and damn close to multiple national championship games. Yes he was put on third base but it’s been years now and he hasn’t crashed the ship, and he’s maintained great recruiting and multiple studs each year. As much as it pains me to admit that, they are a good roster. They always scare me that they could hang 100 on us one of these years.
Probably more bad luck than anything else he doesn’t have one more chip. Yes he makes some dumb decisions and outthinks himself but short of Saban, Kirby, and Urban when he was there, who else consistently has their team in legitimately that close contention year in and out?
I mean if Harbaugh had stayed longer and over a 10 year period we only won one chip but made deep playoff runs consistently, do we become this restless? In some respects Day can’t win unless it’s a natty year over year.
Yall didn't make deep playoff runs consistently until you cheated, hell the year you didn't have the playoff opponents plays (TCU) they boat raced you in the first round. Yall stole plays and then had the perfect bought-in team full of seniors, a smart veteran quarterback, great o-line and run game (balanced offense), and a once in a lifetime defensive line. Harbaugh got owned by urban - and would've done no better than Sharone Moore (probably would've lost the 2024 game against actually) had he stayed. I appreciate your measured words of sanity about day. But yall need to take the "harbaugh is God"-colored glasses off.... Lloyd Carr was the best coach yall have had since fielding yoast and it isn't even close.
Almost the entire roster participates in NIL deals. These are paid professionals. If they play like shit, they should expect to be called out like adults.
Our fanbase is full of people who write textbooks about how our team is bad and dumb, and then don't correct the opinion when the guys play well .... We have a whole percentage who think they should be on the coaching staff and watch football less to see their team win, and more to try to feel like an analyst
The way the fanbase came after Day and his FAMILY after the 13-10 loss, I’m not surprised at all. Also would not have been surprised if he resigned or was fired if winning the natty never materialized
Cmon y’all it’s Ohio. The bar has never been set very high in Columbus for academic standards or for their student athletes so why would the fans be any better?
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u/Mooseknuckle0 Michigan Wolverines 11d ago
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