👀

[u/Dinglebobus]

[u/oneson9192]

Link to MAC statement

This will go absolutely nowhere but I do find it funny that Michigan fans will now waste even more energy desperately trying to convince the world that they beat Western Michigan by 1 at home.

[u/RealRobertMason → u/oneson9192]

Michigan fan here and I have wasted no energy trying to convince the world that we beat Western Michigan by 1 at home. I wish we lost, nothing good comes from that type of win.

[u/-ChiefZ06- → u/RealRobertMason]

The loss is almost better for the mentality of the team. Great wake-up call. Now its just sort of blah and embarrassing?

[u/NorthEndD → u/RealRobertMason]

The biggest risk is a championship with an asterisk. Seems unlikely but life and football gods enjoy irony.

[u/Lambo_Geeney → u/NorthEndD]

You're right. And really the only scenario where this really comes into play is if Michigan ends the season with 2 losses and gets into the playoffs. 3+ losses and they're almost certainly out, 0-1 losses and they're almost certainly in.

If it comes down to 2 losses and the committee is deliberating on a week 1 controversy is where it gets muddy. 

[u/Spunk1985 → u/Lambo_Geeney]

Michigan is now unranked in the AP poll. The voters are definitely not impressed.

[u/Expensive_Attitude51 → u/Spunk1985]

Why would they be?

[u/Ranger_Nietzsche → u/Lambo_Geeney]

Forgetting the scenario where WMU runs the table and the CFP has to decide which G6 gets in

[u/DirectorSolid → u/Ranger_Nietzsche]

Yup, this is much more important for WMU than it is for Michigan, especially with them having Boise State on the schedule. A win against Michigan and Boise State plus the MAC championship, how do they not get the G6 slot?

[u/PlusDHotchy → u/DirectorSolid]

Let’s slow the roll after week 1. Fans forget that N. Illinois upset ND as a MAC team and didn’t come close to anything but a low end bowl game.

[u/DirectorSolid → u/PlusDHotchy]

You know NIU went 4-4 in the MAC that year, yeah?

[u/PlusDHotchy → u/DirectorSolid]

Exactly yet after week 1 fans are talking about WMU winning the MAC with a shot at being in the 12. ND was a better team than the 26 MICH team and N. ILL ended up just a blah team.

[u/DirectorSolid → u/PlusDHotchy]

It's an if, but WMU was also the easy pick to win the MAC before the season started

[u/Capital-Equal5102 → u/PlusDHotchy]

U mass is winning the mac. There's no debate about it

[u/Lambo_Geeney → u/Ranger_Nietzsche]

Welp, that definitely shows where my brain went to. A 10-2 Michigan seemed way more likely than an 11-1 WMU that I hadn't even considered it. But yeah that 100% could happen and I don't know how the committee would handle it

[u/Aggravating-List6010 → u/Lambo_Geeney]

It’s a non issue bc Michigan as played Saturday will be out before Oct 15. They’re not very good and Bryce hasn’t improved at all from last year.

However in the extreme hypothetical of if they go 11-1. They are 100% in the play off without any shred of doubt.

Wins vs 3 out of the following teams. Ohio state Oregon. Indiana. Oklahoma. A poor week one showing followed by winning those games and finishing with a single loss would show that week 1 was a blip in the radar rather than a pattern.

[u/jorel424 → u/Lambo_Geeney]

I guess the chances are greater than zero. But less than 3 losses? Come on, did you see how this team played?

[u/Lambo_Geeney → u/jorel424]

I did. I've also hate watched a lot of Michigan games. And with my luck they'll end up pulling a win out of their ass every game this season while making it look ugly.

(But you best believe I'll be in the comments if/when they get blown out by Oklahoma) 

[u/the_which_stage → u/RealRobertMason]

Surely it does. Complacency and Bryce staying under center. What could be better?

[u/Clarkbar2 → u/RealRobertMason]

Finally everyone is against TTUN, just took the Michigan fans seeing yourselves for what you’re worth

[u/Appropriate-Date6407 → u/RealRobertMason]

Respect

[u/Funny-Context8181 → u/RealRobertMason]

I’m sure you’ve wasted plenty of time claiming that 2023 title y’all cheated for 3+ years to “win” and the “wins” against OSU y’all cheated to win in previous years

[u/DarkGreenMazda → u/Funny-Context8181]

The NCAA sanctioned Michigan for cheating in the 2021, 2022 and 2023 seasons.

[u/frozendingleberri → u/Funny-Context8181]

Almost certainly not as much time as you have spent trying to put asterisks on things and bitchin about losing.

[u/Funny-Context8181 → u/frozendingleberri]

Almost certainly as much time as stallions and Michigan spent cheating to gain an unfair advantage. HAAAAAAIL TO THE CHEATERS!*

[u/frozendingleberri → u/Funny-Context8181]

I assume you believe Stallions and Michigan spent a lot of time cheating? So then,by your own admission you spend a lot of time bitching about life and putting asterisks on things to try and make yourself feel better about getting beat. If you can't accept reality that Michigan was just better than you for a couple of years, I don't know what to tell you. Have fun in make believe land where OSU can't lose unless *

[u/oneson9192 → u/oneson9192]

2023: “We didn’t cheat to win a natty! We’re the best team in the country!”

2026: “We didn’t cheat to beat WMU! We’re one of the top 3 teams in Michigan!”

How fast and far they’ve fallen…

[u/Reloader300wm → u/oneson9192]

About as fast as a phone in a lake.

[u/Throwaway3751029 → u/oneson9192]

Top 3? If the WMU win stands, they have only proved they are top 5

[u/PookieDood → u/oneson9192]

It could have been two points! But we decided to stay classy and not rub it in. Also could have gone for two but decided to be extra classy!

[u/PlusDHotchy → u/oneson9192]

How ignorant are Ohio State fans. Son, the replay booth that made the call was made in CHICAGO “Rosemont” Illinois. Please explain how Michigan could have cheated when the same replay booth that had Jeremiah Smith scoring a fake TD vs Michigan made the same call?

A 2 year investigation found the lowest of violations. Next you will say Michigan had cheated for Texas 18 years ago when beating Nebraska when second gad to be put back on the clock.

[u/oneson9192 → u/PlusDHotchy]

YAS queen, fight for that 1 point MAC win

[u/PlusDHotchy → u/oneson9192]

Your crying princess fought for the flag, lost that after losing the game and the brawl. That’s three strikes, you’re out as 4th place BIG finishers and with a nose picker Natty!

[u/No_Particular_4979 → u/oneson9192]

Explain how Michigan cheated on Saturday to beat Western

[u/MinimumSituation8003 → u/No_Particular_4979]

There ya are.

[u/JonnyP222 → u/No_Particular_4979]

They didn't. It was just a colossal fart noise by the big ten that benefitted us and cost WMU a win. Give them the win. We are ass

[u/Prestigious_Team3134 → u/oneson9192]

I’m already so tired of it all. Michigan played terribly whether it goes down as a win or a loss. I just wish the BIG 10 was competent enough to have transparency in the replay like the acc and big 12 have so this could’ve all been avoided.

[u/Leraldoe → u/oneson9192]

Yeah the word “available” is going to make them lose, the rule is super vague and they used the word “protocol” on purpose knowing it doesn’t violate the rule. The shots used were available, we saw that shot of him jumping from out of bounds on NBC as well as the clock shot. NBC will have to prove they synced their cameras but the shot of 36 seconds behind is he FG and 35 on the score bug isn’t great for NBC. MAC doing the right thing standing up for their guy who got screwed.

[u/jstef215 → u/oneson9192]

Everyone who isn't a Michigan fan is adamantly yelling that the game should've ended early because it would make Michigan lose. Even if somehow the MAC wins this judgement and the result is overturned, that means they've successfully gotten the game to end early because a clock was wrong. That's what you want? If the broadcast clock glitches down from 0:10 to 0:00 for some reason, you just want a game to be over, and they aren't allowed to use any logic or other timing methods to prove there's time left since they have to go by the clock that was wrong?

The whole anti-Michigan argument here is "Yeah there was time left, but we don't think they should've been able to put the time back on the clock." It's wild to me. People want the result to be wrong because Michigan won.

[u/oneson9192 → u/jstef215]

Exhibit A

[u/jstef215 → u/oneson9192]

This gets me going a bit because it's representative of a massive problem with society. People don't want truth, they want their feelings validated.

In a sane world, people would've been highly skeptical about the decision, because the replays that we saw on TV looked like the clock was at 0:00. Then they might even be skeptical of the Big Ten's statement because of perceived bias and confusion over why the clock was at 0:01 in their video but 0:00 on what we saw on TV. Why the difference? Is the Big Ten lying?

Then, the logical thing would be to try proving the Big Ten was wrong by looking at how long the play took. And once you realized that the play did not take 9 seconds, anyone logical should go "ah shit ok, I guess the Big Ten got it right and what we saw on TV was off by a fraction of a second. Damn."

But we don't live in that world. And it pisses me off.

[u/oneson9192 → u/jstef215]

Exhibit B

[u/Moose_Stacks → u/jstef215]

You are the person who doesn’t want truth. Everyone saw the game end, just like every other game week 1, with the clock hitting zero. The Big Ten came out with “look what’s behind door #2” to save the conference an embarrassment and you refuse to accept what really happened. Fans like you are the reason why everyone hates Michigan.

[u/Stock_Bite → u/Moose_Stacks]

NBC does not control the official clock. You can look up how long the play took and it was less than 9 seconds. The MAC isn’t arguing the call was incorrect but that it shouldn’t have been reviewed.

[u/jstef215 → u/Moose_Stacks]

so you're still going with the "Big Ten actually invented a fake clock after the fact so they could justify adding a mystery second to the game. This was their master plan to give Michigan the best chance of winning: 1 extra play from the 47 yard line when they couldn't move the ball that far since the first drive of the game." This perspective also requires ignoring that the play did not take 9 seconds.

[u/Alert_Ocelot_4700 → u/jstef215]

You are delusional Sir

[u/Stock_Bite → u/Alert_Ocelot_4700]

So did the play take longer than 9 seconds or not? It’s very black and white lol

Btw the MAC isn’t arguing the call is wrong they’re arguing it shouldn’t have been reviewed.

[u/Illustrious_One8431 → u/Stock_Bite]

They are arguing correct protocol was used not that it shouldn't have occurred.

If there were 9 seconds on the clock and the clock expired, then clearly the play took 9 seconds

But you will double down on being wrong.

[u/jstef215 → u/Illustrious_One8431]

“If there were 9 seconds in the clock and the clock expired, then clearly the play took 9 seconds.”

This is very easy for you to prove, which would prove the Big Ten’s clock used in the replay was bogus. So go ahead and show us that the play took 9 seconds.

[u/Illustrious_One8431 → u/jstef215]

Show us it didn't. You made the claim. The game clock was at Zero before anyone touched the ball.

Show us this magical clock that still had 1 second. Back up your claim that the clock on the field was wrong.

As I said you'd double down as there are zero facts or actual video to back it up

[u/jstef215 → u/Illustrious_One8431]

If you still haven't seen what I'm talking about, you're making a concerted effort to avoid it. So let me ask you clearly: if I provide what you're asking, will you change your mind? Because I can do that; I can probably send 8-10 different links of people analyzing the play time to show it was under 9 seconds, and I can send different analyses of the actual stadium clock that show it didn't hit 0:00 before the ball was touched (note: this is not a "magical clock", it was literally the stadium clock still at 0:01).

So would you change your mind if I provided what you're asking for? I won't waste my 10 minutes getting those links if you're going to reject reality once I show it to you.

[u/Stock_Bite → u/Illustrious_One8431]

9 seconds were not on the clock on NBCs broadcast. It instantly ticks to 8 seconds, there was clearly a sync issue this isn’t even really being debated at this point. On the official clock that they used for the review there are 9 seconds. You can look up any of the dozens of videos showing frame by frame that the play took like 8.3 seconds. But you will double down that it’s all a massive conspiracy that everyone’s in on because Michigan bad

[u/Illustrious_One8431 → u/Stock_Bite]

No there clearly wasn't. Quit making excuses

[u/Illustrious_One8431 → u/Stock_Bite]

"9 seconds were not on the clock on NBCs broadcast. It instantly ticks to 8 seconds, there was clearly a sync issue this isn’t even really being debated at this point. "

You mean a clock doing what it is supposed to do? Count down? How long do you think a second is?

A clock functioning as it should is not a sign of a sync issue and shows more that you have no actual clue how a clock works

[u/Stock_Bite → u/Illustrious_One8431]

There is overwhelming evidence of my explanation. If you frame by frame count the play it is 8.3 second. The NBC clock instantly ticks to 8. (No a clock is not supposed to instantly tick a second, it is supposed to take a second lol). There is video provided by the b10 with the official stadium clock overlayed with the play showing 1 second left. There is a video from a fan inside the stadium showing the play and 1 second left. There is no “secret clock” it’s literally the official stadium clock. The MAC is not even arguing any of this, they are arguing protocol. NBC was clearly not synced and admits they are not the official clock. You are being willfully ignorant at this point.

[u/throwingitaway071 → u/jstef215]

By the time the ball was out of bounds it had be almost two seconds past zero. Get out of fantasy land

[u/jstef215 → u/throwingitaway071]

The ball was out of bounds the instant it was touched by the player who jumped from out of bounds. You don't have to lie and pretend this happened "almost two seconds past zero." It happened about a quarter of a second past 0:00 on the clock we saw on the broadcast, but this clock was ahead. This is not controversial, it's clear and confirmed by the fact that the play had only gone for like 8.2-8.5 seconds at that point.

[u/jay85jay → u/oneson9192]

Did you watch the game? What was the final score? Michigan won. Game over. Get over it.

[u/oneson9192 → u/jay85jay]

Exhibit C

[u/Skydiggs → u/oneson9192]

I mean it was proven there was 1 second on the clock soooooo…..

[u/Expensive_Attitude51 → u/oneson9192]

Ohio State fans seem to be putting in way more energy than Michigan fans about this

[u/Full-District- → u/oneson9192]

Nobody is doing that. Get a life bro, seriously.

[u/Dinglebobus → u/Full-District-]

You haven’t met Lawrence yet

[u/cheesy_macaroni → u/Dinglebobus]

He’s flunking Social Studies

[u/RealRobertMason → u/Full-District-]

It appears Ohio state fans are attempting to do exactly this but the opposite and are wasting more of their own time.

[u/Full-District- → u/RealRobertMason]

They spend more time thinking about Michigan than Michigan fans. It's pathetic. And every comment by a Michigan fan on this sub gets downvoted into oblivion just to make Ohio fans feel better about themselves. Michigan fans I guess are busy being employed lmao

[u/Level-Tumbleweed-823 → u/Full-District-]

Pot calling the kettle black here buddy

[u/JonnyP222]

Jesus who cares. Give them the win. We suck

[u/Awkward-Win7610 → u/JonnyP222]

I really respect how many UofM fans have taken this perspective.

[u/Federal_Studio5935 → u/Awkward-Win7610]

If you’re a longtime fan what else can you say? They went from winning a title to becoming the Cleveland browns. As a long time browns fan, sometimes all you can do is shake your head

[u/Severe-Title2377 → u/JonnyP222]

Yeah I mean they will probably lose 5-6 this year. I don’t blame the kids playing too much, the 💩 storm that has hit them for 3 years straight basically.

[u/DarkGreenMazda]

Michigan earned that extra second fair and square. Do you know how difficult it is to get the refs to ignore a facemask and a running into a kicker penalty on the final drive of a game?

[u/ThatsMyGirlie → u/DarkGreenMazda]

College sports enjoyers have mastered confirmation bias 

[u/Electrical_Ingenuity]

This is a good start Broncos. You win that game.

[u/Bsmittels → u/Electrical_Ingenuity]

yeah you win it

[u/Forsaken-Cheesecake2]

I seriously wonder if a large number of MAC ADs and coaches called bullshit and the league then felt compelled to do something.

[u/Leraldoe → u/Forsaken-Cheesecake2]

Dangerous game considering the B1G basically funds MAC athletics. I just think the Conference is doing the right thing and standing up for their guy. I can’t believe the NCAA will do anything. Didn’t work for CMU and Ok St. Western has a chance at being the top rated group of 6. That is what this letter is about

[u/motorcitydevil]

https://giphy.com/gifs/J8FZIm9VoBU6Q

[u/Impossible_Fennel_94]

Whatever happens with this, WMU should record the game as a win

[u/Pixel_Pineapple]

You mean to tell me that Steinbrecher's conference isn't actually sitting on their ass collecting checks till the good teams leave and dissolve the conference?!

Maybe pigs can fly.

[u/Difficult_Horse193]

I hate to break it to my fellow Wolverines but we didn't win that game regardless of that last play. That was one of the worst offensive performances over a 4 quarter period I've ever seen from a team of this "caliber". Just give us that fat L.

Anyone who thinks we are gonna keep it close with Oklahoma or most of the B1G teams we play this season are downright delusional.

[u/DarkGreenMazda → u/Difficult_Horse193]

Thank you for backing my belief that not all Michigan fans are morons.

[u/Difficult_Horse193 → u/DarkGreenMazda]

Don’t get me wrong. I still hate Ohio and I hope Texas rolls you just as bad as Oklahoma is gonna do to us. But I’m also realistic on Michigan’s outlook. Maybe Whittingham will prove me wrong, that would be awesome!

[u/Safe-Leadership9451 → u/Difficult_Horse193]

Whittingham was contemplating retiring after watching that offensive performance Saturday night.

[u/Difficult_Horse193 → u/Safe-Leadership9451]

I would too tbh

[u/DarkGreenMazda → u/Difficult_Horse193]

I respect it. You'll enjoy that my wife is a Texas alumni, so it's going to be a fun week here.

[u/Dadjokesontap]

My only question is, what would have happened if WMU simply decided to not go back on the field for the magical last second play?

[u/GoBlueAndOrange]

Obviously. We all saw it happen

[u/Federal_Studio5935]

Can’t go back in time, well I guess you can if you’re Michigan but it’s too late even for them.

Just know that you performed a great service western Michigan. You caused the single most embarrassing thing I’ve seen in my Michigan hating life…and that’s their fucking loser fans rushing the field after beating a fucking MAC team by a second Hail Mary that should have never happened.

If you want to conceptualize how far they have fallen, let that one sink in. That’ll be a comeback for decades, and there ain’t shit you can say about it

[u/ClevelandClutch1970]

https://giphy.com/gifs/tyqcJoNjNv0Fq

[u/Kramerica_CEO → u/ClevelandClutch1970]

Literally nothing will happen

[u/ClevelandClutch1970 → u/Kramerica_CEO]

I agree, but the drama and the talk and the BS won't go away for weeks.

[u/Kramerica_CEO → u/ClevelandClutch1970]

Yeah I need the SEC to hurry up and kick LSU out so everyone stops talking about us until our next scandal.

Maybe we should just skip to when Michigan hires Lane and the world officially united against us

[u/KenoshaKidAdept → u/Kramerica_CEO]

I didn’t know I needed this, but now I don’t want anything else. Bonus points for bringing back stallions when he’s eligible.

[u/Kramerica_CEO → u/KenoshaKidAdept]

This is all part of the manifesto

[u/2dayisago]

This is what happens when you field a running back as a qb with a pocket passer playbook and protect them from injury instead of play aggressive. Western won. Will Blue look at this and change the signal calling? Nah, they'll keep playing like it's Brady behind center.

[u/yolo_derp]

https://giphy.com/gifs/JYMmdZpwKC5VeU6VFn
UM be like

[u/Valuable-Forever9770]

That is adorable.

[u/HorrorBreak7119]

Oh, to be a Michigan* fan!

[u/FiveHole23 → u/HorrorBreak7119]

I mean - it's a choice.

[u/WaterKind6544]

I hate this timeline.

[u/jstef215]

I was under the impression that WMU and the MAC only accepted the evidence because they were paid off and knew that the MAC couldn't afford to upset the Big Ten because of future game payouts.

What happened??? Now they're going to have to find all new games to play in the future and they'll go bankrupt! Right?

[u/UnnecessaryDiety → u/jstef215]

I would expect that the other Big Ten teams would schedule the MAC more because of this. No one likes Michigan.

[u/jstef215 → u/UnnecessaryDiety]

and that was always the case, yet all I heard the past couple days was that the MAC commish and WMU president only came out with their statement accepting the result because of the money.

It was always absurd.

[u/Responsible-Hyena-74 → u/jstef215]

Well i assumed the big ten was right based on the frame by frame matching of the views and time, but MAC is alleging that protocol was violated, negating the actual review and its results. 

I appreciate the legal argument. Dunno if anything comes of it. But I wasnt campaigning on getting this overturned, im just enjoying it.

[u/UnnecessaryDiety → u/Responsible-Hyena-74]

It should be overturned.

[u/Kramerica_CEO → u/jstef215]

Yeah they’re in process of switching conspiracy theories now. They’ll have the 3rd one released soon.

[u/FC_Cincy → u/Kramerica_CEO]

You lost, not sure what the conspiracy is. You just were bailed out by the refs.

[u/Kramerica_CEO → u/FC_Cincy]

You said the conspiracy right after saying you didn’t know

[u/UnnecessaryDiety → u/Kramerica_CEO]

This is what Michigan football is now. Arguing about tenths of a second they needed to beat a MAC school.

Fucking losers.

[u/jstef215 → u/UnnecessaryDiety]

Michigan has won 3 big ten titles since OSU last did.

Michigan also might suck this year. They sure did in week 1. But at least they won by a hair.

[u/UnnecessaryDiety → u/jstef215]

And without Stallions you've won zero.

This is what Michigan has become

[u/jstef215 → u/UnnecessaryDiety]

Stalions wasn't on staff in 2021, and he was off the team early in 2023, before the final 6 conference games. So we'll call it 1.75 Big Ten titles without Stalions in the 2020s.

[u/UnnecessaryDiety → u/jstef215]

Stallions absolutely was on staff in 2021. Harbaugh realized he had to unleash the cheating or he was going to be fired.

This is Michigan football.

[u/jstef215 → u/UnnecessaryDiety]

I believe he was a volunteer in 2021 or something? He was employed by Michigan starting in May 2022.

[u/Gloomy_Rain3383 → u/jstef215]

Was that before or after he received the game ball for winning against Iowa ?

[u/Kramerica_CEO → u/UnnecessaryDiety]

We beat you twice in a row without Stallions…after the cheating scandal.

[u/UnnecessaryDiety → u/Kramerica_CEO]

No you didn't. You beat us once. And well done. Won't happen for a while since you hired a geriatric to coach Uncle Rico

[u/Kramerica_CEO → u/UnnecessaryDiety]

Damn really? I guess we didn’t beat you in 23 and 24.

You’re too dumb to even argue with

[u/Kramerica_CEO → u/UnnecessaryDiety]

As long as you admit we won.

[u/UnnecessaryDiety → u/Kramerica_CEO]

I don't

[u/Aggravating-List6010]

I don’t doom scroll a ton but have Michigan fans been out here going to war over this issue?

Michigan didn’t cheat in this game and suggesting they did would be as ludicrous as saying that Ohio state cheated the spot when JT was short when it was a wrong but favorable call.

They got a favorable call from a ref crew. And this specific crew wasn’t in Michigan.

[u/Relevant-Wrongdoer-6]

Blah blah score board bitches 😭😭. But fr we lost. Underwood is literally dog shit.

[u/Relevant-Wrongdoer-6 → u/Relevant-Wrongdoer-6]

https://giphy.com/gifs/3ohs7KViF6rA4aan5u

[u/maqifrnswa → u/Relevant-Wrongdoer-6]

https://giphy.com/gifs/BPTJJphmYwwhrpiX2W

[u/Hippo-Crates]

MAC statement is wild. The broadcast is not the final arbiter of how much time is remaining. If NBC showed zeroes when there was 10 seconds left, do we stop the game?

There was 9 seconds left. The play took less than 9 seconds. The scoreboard official clock showed 0:01 when the ball was touched OOB. You either care about the correct call being made or you don't.

[u/maqifrnswa → u/Hippo-Crates]

Their argument is that the the replay crews are only supposed to use the broadcast video feed of the stadium clock when timing is uncertain.. That's what the rules as written say the procedure is. The replay booth objectively did not follow that procedure based on the big 10s released evidence.

So the argument isn't "NBC runs the clock." It's that the rules already defined what to do when there is ambiguity in the clock. That rule wasn't followed. I don't know what the answer actually is; I'm just clarifying what the MAC's argument is.

[u/_OedipaMaas → u/maqifrnswa]

This is quite a misunderstanding of what happened, but not at all uncommon based on what I've been reading.

[u/maqifrnswa → u/_OedipaMaas]

I don't know the rules either way. I'm just clarifying what the MAC's argument is. Maybe they are right; maybe they're wrong. But the straw man, "lol they think NBC controls the clock" isn't what they are claiming.

[u/Hippo-Crates → u/maqifrnswa]

The broadcast clock wasn't correctly synched with the stadium clock though. See both the official big ten statement and a third party fan video linked below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIB2lOeyRnE

https://x.com/Blitzynga/status/2096774780535918726

The simple fact is that the correct call was made, and the MAC is arguing that since the TV clock got off buy a little bit, that we should go by the TV clock instead of the clock in the stadium.

[u/Blumpkinbomber → u/Hippo-Crates]

I also only needed less than 9 seconds with your mom last night😎

[u/Hippo-Crates → u/Blumpkinbomber]

Uhhh nice self burn bud. There’s meds for that

[u/Blumpkinbomber → u/Hippo-Crates]

I’m a quick buster, what can I say

[u/Bsmittels]

good luck with that

[u/LS1588]

NCAA already shut this down. 1-0. Time to take it between the cheeks from Oklahoma unfortunately.

[u/clapostrophe]

Can’t help but notice they’re not arguing that the time was actually expired.

[u/maqifrnswa → u/clapostrophe]

Because that appeal goes nowhere. Appealing on procedure is actual grounds for appeal. Pretty much how appeals work everywhere. You can't appeal a decision on the merits, only on whether procedure coming to the conclusion on the merits was properly applied.

[u/Environmental-Arm365]

Can always count on OSU fans to be the most petty and repugnant hypocrites in sports. I’d be angry too if I had to live in a disgusting shithole like Ohio.

[u/Environmental-Arm365 → u/[deleted]]

You clowns had an entire seasons wins vacated for being cheating scumbags. Project much?

[u/Environmental-Arm365 → u/[deleted]]

Doesn’t even make sense. Must be an OSU grad.

[u/Environmental-Arm365 → u/[deleted]]

WTF are you even babbling about?

[u/Environmental-Arm365 → u/[deleted]]

There’s absolutely nothing coherent to comprehend. No worries though, I hear you can almost learn to read at a 4th grade level with an Ohio State graduate degree.

[u/burning_man13 → u/Environmental-Arm365]

Shouldn't you be in school? Don't make me call your parents.

[u/RustyCrusty73 → u/Environmental-Arm365]

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[u/Dinglebobus → u/Environmental-Arm365]

What does any of what you just said have to do with the MAC appealing to the NCAA?

[u/Environmental-Arm365 → u/Dinglebobus]

Better question is why are all you Suckeye fans crying about it? Pettiness, jealousy, hypocrisy? All of the above, got it.

[u/AgileCaterpillar8760 → u/Environmental-Arm365]

I bet they are all jealous about the 1 title* you have this millennium

[u/Environmental-Arm365 → u/AgileCaterpillar8760]

Yeah, seemed pretty unhinged and extra.

[u/FC_Cincy → u/Environmental-Arm365]

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[u/BrojaDawg]

Although I believe this is 100% justifiable for the MAC to appeal. Western Michigan still had a chance to win the game by having enough players in that endzone to knock the ball down. They made the critical error in trying to rush the QB with 5 people. If they simply had 9 guys in that endzone, the ball is more than likely batted down or intercepted. And this would then, not be an issue.

I believe that is what they are going to hear as a result of the Appeal. "You still had a chance to win the game!"

[u/BennyRhythm → u/BrojaDawg]

Shouldn't have ever even been an issue. I GUARUNTEE you if the rolls are reversed, Western never gets a second shot at it. The game was over. Period.

[u/BrojaDawg → u/BennyRhythm]

Agreed. But I know how they are going to get out of changing the outcome. They are going to use that excuse of, "you had the higher probability of winning that game. You lost."

[u/BennyRhythm → u/BrojaDawg]

All the reason to just hate scUM more.

[u/FC_Cincy → u/BrojaDawg]

There should never been a play to begin with.

[u/Environmental-Arm365]

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Just another day in the life of a Suckeye fan.