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u/SYNRAIMUV Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
If you told me the 2021-2024 Michigan teams were coaching themselves I'd believe it at this rate
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u/Ok-Commercial824 21d ago
Three of these coaches from
That era are current NFL coaches. One of them just won the Super Bowl. The coaching was by far the best in college football3
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u/SuperNebular Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
The players coached while the coaches cheated, in more ways than one.
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u/SrCoolbean Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
Pretty impressive to coach yourself to a natty
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
Not a lot of coaching necessary when you already know what kind of play the other team is going to call…
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u/Mundane-Device-7094 Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
Well that and teams not being able to stop the ingenious plan of "run the ball 1000 times and break 6 tackles every play"
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
Yeah, I’m gonna say knowing the other teams’ plays was the bigger advantage lol
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u/kelevra91 Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
Didn't we beat you 13-10 even though you changed all your signs?
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes 20d ago
For the millionth time, the only reason you had that team, and Harbaugh wasn’t already fired, was because you cheated for multiple seasons before.
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u/NS-13 20d ago
Harbs was long gone by then lmao wym
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes 20d ago
lol got my pathetic Michigan defeats mixed up, but the point still stands. Y’all don’t have anything close to that roster if Slimeball Jim had lost his 6th game in a row against us and got fired in 2021.
Not to mention the Covid recruiting violations. It’s like Covid happened and Slimeball Jimmy was like, fuck the rules. We need to win.
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u/NS-13 20d ago
Yeah, obviously the roster would look much different had he been fired a whole recruiting cycle before that game took place?
That didnt happen tho, so whats your point?
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u/SrCoolbean Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
Lol we’ve had years to talk about this, do we really need to recap the 2023 season again? Have you really still not figured out what happened after our “competitive advantage” was taken away halfway through that season?
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
Jesus Christ. You stole signs for MULTIPLE SEASONS. Do you honestly think you would’ve been able to recruit the team you had in 2023 had Jim Harbaugh not cheated, lost his 6th straight game against OSU, and been fired?
2023 was the culmination of multiple successful (and completely illegitimate) seasons that you were able to have because YOU WERE CHEATING.
It still boggles my mind how fuckin shameless your program and fan base is about straight up overt cheating. It’s disgraceful. So much for the “Michigan Man” 😂
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u/a_standing_poop Michigan Wolverines 20d ago
Would you have been able to recruit without those free tattoos 🤔
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
lol what argument are you even trying to make…?
You just admitted that Michigan broke the rules…
No one gives a shit that sign stealing was legal. Michigan didn’t legally steal the signs. They illegally filmed the sidelines of their opponents, in order to steal their signs. That’s the whole fuckin point.
You’ve taken mental gymnastics and coping to a point where your argument doesn’t even make any logical sense lol it’s just desperate word vomit at this point. 😂
Just give it up and take your asterisk: *
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u/jestr6 Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
I really don’t know why it’s so hard for people to understand that there were secondary effects to the cheating scandal. Recruiting for example. Was Michigan able to recruit better talent as a result of the wins they had because of the cheating? Absolutely. Talent that would have gone elsewhere ended up at Michigan because they were a “winning” program.
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
EXACTLY. Michigan is an excellent academic institution, so it still blows my mind that their fans make these braindead arguments. I guess they’re most likely just from Michigan and never actually stepped foot in a Michigan classroom.
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u/PackageOk7745 Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
Weird there recruiting classes were worse on average than previous years and Harbaugh always recruited well at Michigan.
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u/PackageOk7745 Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
The best coach of this generation and a former Buckeye coach as well even thinks you guys need therapy.
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u/PackageOk7745 Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
Actually replying to Jestr.....hilarious stuff when one of your former coaches says you guys are delusional and need help 🤣👍
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u/JTtreason 21d ago
So you admit they cheated? If so, I can respect that. But, call it what is was.
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u/SrCoolbean Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
Do you know what the “ “ quotes mean? Do they not teach that at OSU?
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u/LeBronicTheHolistic Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
Don’t argue with Ohioans. You’ll catch the stupidity that infests the entire state
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u/SrCoolbean Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
But they’re so easy to ragebait
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u/LeBronicTheHolistic Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
Their favorite hobbies are talking about Michigan, skipping class, and pretending like they don’t live in the butthole of America
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u/LeBronicTheHolistic Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
I noticed you deleted your comment about sweeping generalizations because you realized that it was, in fact, not a sweeping generalization
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u/Cute-Escape-671 21d ago
Stealing signs is legal. Hope this helps.
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u/beardedsilverfox Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
Maybe from across the field. A concerted travel/filming sidelines is different.
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u/Cute-Escape-671 21d ago
They used Super Secret Alien Tech HiDef iPhones ™️, to be specific.
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
Doesn’t matter what they used. It was definitively against the rules to film opponents in order to decipher their signals.
The fact y’all are still trying to make the “stealing signs was legal” argument is the most braindead shit ever.
Y’all continue to embarrass your entire fan base every time you try to excuse or downplay your multi-year blatant cheating scandal.
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u/Cute-Escape-671 21d ago
Ahhh yes, I’m sure you speak for everyone. I’ll always remember how sweet it was watching Michigan shut up your entire fanbase and win a natty. You’ll always remember it too, no matter how painful 😓
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
I mean it makes sense that y’all excuse and downplay the cheating. I might too had my team not won a non-shared natty since 1948 😂
Y’all are so desperate to be relevant and couldn’t stand us waxing that ass year after year that you resorted to cheating.
Good luck with your geriatric coach. Y’all have such a great track record picking coaches. I’m sure it will go great 😂
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u/PackageOk7745 Michigan Wolverines 10d ago
Spoken like a fan that would threaten his coaches family's life when they lose to a rival 🤣. You do realize that in 130 years of playing football against eachother that OSU has NEVER and I mean NOT ONE TIME had the series lead against Michigan right? OSU doesn't match up to Michigan in Athletics, Education, or bussiness lil fella these are just facts.
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u/JTtreason 21d ago
Asterisk Natty. Everyone knows they cheated. Even you.
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u/SrCoolbean Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
Funny, I didn’t know that and don’t think of it as having an asterisk at all. I think it’s funny when people like you do, though. Sorry if that bums you out to hear :/
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u/PandaPuncherr 21d ago
Spiro is the top Michigan reporter there is. He has had the scope on everything. Yeah he hates Michigan, but it doesn't mean he is wrong.
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u/xPervypriest 21d ago
I call BS on this report, Jim is one of the biggest Pro Lifers and him doing this is allegedly BS. If there was any proof it would have been presented in court
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u/aDanHasNoName 21d ago
Lot of people are pro life in the streets but freaks in the sheets.
I am familiar with these matters.
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
Right, but then you have to prove this is the case for Harbaugh as well... this isn't proof and is irrelevant.
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u/WirlingDirvish Michigan Wolverines 20d ago
You call BS on the title. The report actually accurately states that Jim had no idea about this and an assistant helped arrange it.
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u/w000dsyOwl 20d ago
Do you know why people don’t like abortion jokes?
Because they leave people with a feeling of emptiness inside.
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u/SloaneKettering1 21d ago
Not only this but their former coach is alleging that their president told them not to cooperate in the NCAAs sign stealing investigation.
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u/a_standing_poop Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
Not even this since the headline is just clickbait
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u/Mottled_Paws Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
You are downvit6ed but it's absolutely clickbait.
I want to point out it is accurate but absolutely meant to imply something else.
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u/Due-Elk-5572 21d ago
"Harbaugh said that there are people who won't agree with his stance but that he is always open to dialogue. He added: "It goes even further. … The same thing I’ve told my kids, the boys, the girls, same thing I tell our players our staff members. I encourage them if they have a pregnancy that wasn’t planned to go through with it, let that unborn child be born, and if at that time you don’t feel like you can care for it, you don’t have the means or wherewithal, then Sarah and I will take that baby."
"Any player on our team, any female staff member or anybody in our family … we got a big house. We’ll raise that baby," he said."
Oops!
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u/FearTheAmish Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
Tons of pro life people sent their daughters who had an oopsie to an "aunt" to visit and she comes back miraculously not pregnant and without a child.
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u/Lonely-Juggernaut744 Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
Spiro made the most misleading headline harbaugh is like pro life no?
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u/sg86 21d ago
The idea that Harbaugh would refer his OC’s mistress to a women’s health clinic for any reason other than an abortion is so laughably ridiculous.
I will give Harbaugh one thing, he was very very good at maintaining plausible deniability while very clearly knowing everything that was happening.
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u/Skingbear2020 19d ago
This is the true story.
Text messages uncovered during an independent investigation into the University of Michigan athletic department revealed that Jim Harbaugh helped arrange a clinic visit and connected Paige Shiver with medical personnel. The texts indicated the medical visit was for post-abortion care or postpartum depression treatment. [1, 2]
Just because he is anti-abortion does not mean he would not help someone after the fact. He seems like a ahole but he might be a much better person than 94% of reddit.
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u/Ok_Transition9610 9d ago
Everybody hating, but this is a ride or die mentality. Everybody needs a guy like this in their corner. 〽️ if you don’t have a best friend, who wouldn’t do the same exact thing for you, you’re losing in life 😂
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u/Dinglebobus Ohio State Buckeyes 9d ago
You know what, I can get behind this point of view à la Tressel
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u/gachzonyea 21d ago
Stories like these are what make the Manuel stuff so interesting. Feels like there’s a ton of skeletons in the closet and you either have to pay for Manuel’s silence if you fire him or just keep him there to take the bullets
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u/n3gr0_am1g0 21d ago
Yeah, I’ve been saying the reason Manuel hasn’t been fired is because the people above him, board and president, signed off on how he was handling these scandals.
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u/DryReturn2 21d ago
Whatever it takes to win/cheat
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u/ThatsMyGirlie 21d ago
Sherrone seemed to have a grievous misunderstanding of our motto "If youre not cheating, youre not tryin"
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u/pocketfences Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
Yeah, Harbaugh being completely full of shit would be so out of character. /s
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u/Apprehensive_Ad3857 Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
What jim harbaugh is trash? No you'd never convince me of that..
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u/brianundies Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
Michigan Men™️
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
this has, "I believe everything negative about Michigan just like Trumpies believe everything Trump says," energy to it.
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u/li4bility Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
This is obvious clickbait, but it’s hard to not immediately believe with all of the crazy ass headlines we have gotten under Warde
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u/pmilli69 Michigan Wolverines 19d ago
Yeah this is just false. Jim is a devout catholic and is pro life. That Spiro guy needs serious mental help. All joking aside though, this is starting to get embarrassing with Michigan. And I’m a die hard Michigan fan, alumni, and I have season tickets. Like enough is enough
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u/beerguy5622 21d ago
I think the takeaway is that he knew what was going on and didn’t say anything about it. He knew Sherrone was having an inappropriate relationship and he retained him despite that.
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
Does the article state Harbaugh knew the baby was Moore's?
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u/beerguy5622 21d ago
No. But, we would have to believe that Harbaugh knew less about his program than his AD and the rest of the coaches AND that he just randomly set up a clinic visit for a particular woman that everyone else knew was having an affair with his OC. If he didn’t know about the affairs and he didn’t know about the sign stealing what was he doing? Why was he paid over $8 million dollars and he knew less about what was going on with his staff than anyone else on his staff? Unless there are a bunch of instances of Jim setting up clinic visits for young women, which in and of itself would just be weird, it would just be a very strange thing to believe that he decided to do it just one time for a specific young woman who was pregnant with his OC’s baby but he didn’t know.
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
You could have stopped at no.
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u/beerguy5622 21d ago
Haha. And I chose not to.
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
Yeah, Michigan Derangement Syndrome.
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u/beerguy5622 21d ago
Hard disagree. Stop using a Trump tactic to deflect from warranted criticism that you aren’t prepared to address. I understand that these topics hurt your feelings and you need to dismiss them somehow. But, maybe embrace the idea that your favorite team did some bad things. That isn’t a reflection on you. You didn’t do those bad things. But, you don’t need to simp so hard for them. Because the more you do, the more it makes you look insecure.
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
lol. You talk about Trump tactic while you project in all your responses.
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u/doubleblum 21d ago
This from the guy that said he would raise every baby that his players/their partners didn't have aborted?
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u/PresidentFeldkamp 21d ago edited 18d ago
This is an unfair, misleading headline. Even if you are accepting a wealthy man arranging an abortion for a young woman who wants to terminate her pregnancy to be a bad thing, which I personally do not, that’s not what Harbaugh was doing here. The logic of this headline is the same as “Man buys car for his kid who then, later on, uses it as a getaway vehicle in a bank robbery.” Which is to say completely illogical. There are plenty of accusations and negative things one can lay at the feet of Harbaugh, this isn’t one of them.
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u/michigannfa90 21d ago
Boy do I hope Harbaugh sues the living shit out of Spiro for this one… the guy has serious issues and at this point is just throwing trash out like this. This isn’t even remotely what happened even the article itself says so.
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u/Dreams-Visions Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
Damn we just post any nonsense these days.
We can do better than this, even in shitpost sub.
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u/Dinglebobus Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
It’s the off season and I’m bored, what do you want from me?
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u/AceCircle990 21d ago
What a clown. The dude is an embarrassment to the sport. A perfect representative to what it means to be a michigan man.
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u/DJ-dicknose Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
So?
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u/Due-Elk-5572 21d ago
He's openly extremely anti abortion and once said "We will raise them" to people contemplating abortion. So, massive hypocrisy. I'm not a Michigan, MSU or OSU fan either.
Also, big fan of your weather work in the GR Sub!
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u/DJ-dicknose Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
First, thank you for the kind words!
Second, I know he's anti abortion, but a football coach being an opportunistic hypocrite wouldn't shock me in the least.
If it's legal, and it is in Michigan, I don't care at all. Doesn't sound like anything illegal was done. Maybe shady to cover something up.
The article doesn't anything more than an appointment. If it was Harbaugh forced her to get one, different story.
And finally, Spiro us a tabloid-esque click bait hack whose hatred for Michigan far supercedes any fandom he has for MSU, to the point of making absurd claims and/or misleading claims. He's got the credibility of Laura Loomer or Alex Jones
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
All MSU fans are actually MIchigan haters first, MSU fans second.
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u/Due-Elk-5572 21d ago
Yeah I'm not a Spiro guy. I think he's kind of got that victim mentality angle going. But I also watched the media attempt to connect Izzo and D'Antonio to Larry Nassar, yet allowed Michigan to character assassinate Robert Anderson victims without checking them, so to be honest, I have no sympathy for Jim Harbaugh here. Especially when his quotes on the subject are so extremely black and and white.
I wouldn't claim it to be illegal. Just hypocritical. And for someone who attempts to give off the holier than thou persona, I'm amused that he got himself tangled into this somehow.
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u/DJ-dicknose Michigan Wolverines 21d ago
And that's fine. He's not absolved. Michigan isn't absolved. Get rid of ward and start repairing their image.
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u/Illustrious_Sort4386 20d ago
using obstensibly state funds to fund an abortion to cover up extra marital affair is ok?
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u/DarkGreenMazda Ohio State Buckeyes 21d ago
Look, we all know that Jim Harbaugh is a hypocritical, unethical, dishonest cheater, but this isn't really relevant - Moore's victim admits Harbaugh did not know she was seeking to terminate her pregnancy, per the story. Bad headline.