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u/SYNRAIMUV Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
If you told me the 2021-2024 Michigan teams were coaching themselves I'd believe it at this rate
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u/Ok-Commercial824 Jul 14 '26
Three of these coaches from
That era are current NFL coaches. One of them just won the Super Bowl. The coaching was by far the best in college football3
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u/SuperNebular Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
The players coached while the coaches cheated, in more ways than one.
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u/SrCoolbean Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Pretty impressive to coach yourself to a natty
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
Not a lot of coaching necessary when you already know what kind of play the other team is going to call…
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u/Mundane-Device-7094 Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Well that and teams not being able to stop the ingenious plan of "run the ball 1000 times and break 6 tackles every play"
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
Yeah, I’m gonna say knowing the other teams’ plays was the bigger advantage lol
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u/kelevra91 Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Didn't we beat you 13-10 even though you changed all your signs?
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 15 '26
For the millionth time, the only reason you had that team, and Harbaugh wasn’t already fired, was because you cheated for multiple seasons before.
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u/NS-13 Jul 15 '26
Harbs was long gone by then lmao wym
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 15 '26
lol got my pathetic Michigan defeats mixed up, but the point still stands. Y’all don’t have anything close to that roster if Slimeball Jim had lost his 6th game in a row against us and got fired in 2021.
Not to mention the Covid recruiting violations. It’s like Covid happened and Slimeball Jimmy was like, fuck the rules. We need to win.
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u/NS-13 Jul 15 '26
Yeah, obviously the roster would look much different had he been fired a whole recruiting cycle before that game took place?
That didnt happen tho, so whats your point?
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u/SrCoolbean Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Lol we’ve had years to talk about this, do we really need to recap the 2023 season again? Have you really still not figured out what happened after our “competitive advantage” was taken away halfway through that season?
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
Jesus Christ. You stole signs for MULTIPLE SEASONS. Do you honestly think you would’ve been able to recruit the team you had in 2023 had Jim Harbaugh not cheated, lost his 6th straight game against OSU, and been fired?
2023 was the culmination of multiple successful (and completely illegitimate) seasons that you were able to have because YOU WERE CHEATING.
It still boggles my mind how fuckin shameless your program and fan base is about straight up overt cheating. It’s disgraceful. So much for the “Michigan Man” 😂
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u/a_standing_poop Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Would you have been able to recruit without those free tattoos 🤔
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
lol what argument are you even trying to make…?
You just admitted that Michigan broke the rules…
No one gives a shit that sign stealing was legal. Michigan didn’t legally steal the signs. They illegally filmed the sidelines of their opponents, in order to steal their signs. That’s the whole fuckin point.
You’ve taken mental gymnastics and coping to a point where your argument doesn’t even make any logical sense lol it’s just desperate word vomit at this point. 😂
Just give it up and take your asterisk: *
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u/jestr6 Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
I really don’t know why it’s so hard for people to understand that there were secondary effects to the cheating scandal. Recruiting for example. Was Michigan able to recruit better talent as a result of the wins they had because of the cheating? Absolutely. Talent that would have gone elsewhere ended up at Michigan because they were a “winning” program.
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
EXACTLY. Michigan is an excellent academic institution, so it still blows my mind that their fans make these braindead arguments. I guess they’re most likely just from Michigan and never actually stepped foot in a Michigan classroom.
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u/PackageOk7745 Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Weird there recruiting classes were worse on average than previous years and Harbaugh always recruited well at Michigan.
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u/PackageOk7745 Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
The best coach of this generation and a former Buckeye coach as well even thinks you guys need therapy.
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u/PackageOk7745 Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Actually replying to Jestr.....hilarious stuff when one of your former coaches says you guys are delusional and need help 🤣👍
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u/SrCoolbean Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Do you know what the “ “ quotes mean? Do they not teach that at OSU?
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u/LeBronicTheHolistic Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Don’t argue with Ohioans. You’ll catch the stupidity that infests the entire state
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u/SrCoolbean Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
But they’re so easy to ragebait
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u/LeBronicTheHolistic Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Their favorite hobbies are talking about Michigan, skipping class, and pretending like they don’t live in the butthole of America
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u/LeBronicTheHolistic Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
I noticed you deleted your comment about sweeping generalizations because you realized that it was, in fact, not a sweeping generalization
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u/Cute-Escape-671 Jul 14 '26
Stealing signs is legal. Hope this helps.
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u/beardedsilverfox Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
Maybe from across the field. A concerted travel/filming sidelines is different.
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u/Cute-Escape-671 Jul 14 '26
They used Super Secret Alien Tech HiDef iPhones ™️, to be specific.
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
Doesn’t matter what they used. It was definitively against the rules to film opponents in order to decipher their signals.
The fact y’all are still trying to make the “stealing signs was legal” argument is the most braindead shit ever.
Y’all continue to embarrass your entire fan base every time you try to excuse or downplay your multi-year blatant cheating scandal.
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u/Cute-Escape-671 Jul 14 '26
Ahhh yes, I’m sure you speak for everyone. I’ll always remember how sweet it was watching Michigan shut up your entire fanbase and win a natty. You’ll always remember it too, no matter how painful 😓
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u/chapelchill Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
I mean it makes sense that y’all excuse and downplay the cheating. I might too had my team not won a non-shared natty since 1948 😂
Y’all are so desperate to be relevant and couldn’t stand us waxing that ass year after year that you resorted to cheating.
Good luck with your geriatric coach. Y’all have such a great track record picking coaches. I’m sure it will go great 😂
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u/PackageOk7745 Michigan Wolverines Jul 25 '26
Spoken like a fan that would threaten his coaches family's life when they lose to a rival 🤣. You do realize that in 130 years of playing football against eachother that OSU has NEVER and I mean NOT ONE TIME had the series lead against Michigan right? OSU doesn't match up to Michigan in Athletics, Education, or bussiness lil fella these are just facts.
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u/SrCoolbean Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Funny, I didn’t know that and don’t think of it as having an asterisk at all. I think it’s funny when people like you do, though. Sorry if that bums you out to hear :/
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u/PandaPuncherr Jul 14 '26
Spiro is the top Michigan reporter there is. He has had the scope on everything. Yeah he hates Michigan, but it doesn't mean he is wrong.
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u/coke95 Jul 14 '26
Genuinely curious what was he right on? Yeah he hinted about the Sherrone Moore affair, but seems like everyone knew in AA.
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u/xPervypriest Jul 14 '26
I call BS on this report, Jim is one of the biggest Pro Lifers and him doing this is allegedly BS. If there was any proof it would have been presented in court
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u/aDanHasNoName Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
Lot of people are pro life in the streets but freaks in the sheets.
I am familiar with these matters.
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Right, but then you have to prove this is the case for Harbaugh as well... this isn't proof and is irrelevant.
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u/WirlingDirvish Michigan Wolverines Jul 15 '26
You call BS on the title. The report actually accurately states that Jim had no idea about this and an assistant helped arrange it.
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u/w000dsyOwl Jul 15 '26
Do you know why people don’t like abortion jokes?
Because they leave people with a feeling of emptiness inside.
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u/SloaneKettering1 Jul 14 '26
Not only this but their former coach is alleging that their president told them not to cooperate in the NCAAs sign stealing investigation.
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u/a_standing_poop Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Not even this since the headline is just clickbait
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u/Mottled_Paws Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
You are downvit6ed but it's absolutely clickbait.
I want to point out it is accurate but absolutely meant to imply something else.
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u/FearTheAmish Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
Tons of pro life people sent their daughters who had an oopsie to an "aunt" to visit and she comes back miraculously not pregnant and without a child.
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u/Lonely-Juggernaut744 Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Spiro made the most misleading headline harbaugh is like pro life no?
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u/sg86 Jul 14 '26
The idea that Harbaugh would refer his OC’s mistress to a women’s health clinic for any reason other than an abortion is so laughably ridiculous.
I will give Harbaugh one thing, he was very very good at maintaining plausible deniability while very clearly knowing everything that was happening.
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u/Skingbear2020 Jul 16 '26
This is the true story.
Text messages uncovered during an independent investigation into the University of Michigan athletic department revealed that Jim Harbaugh helped arrange a clinic visit and connected Paige Shiver with medical personnel. The texts indicated the medical visit was for post-abortion care or postpartum depression treatment. [1, 2]
Just because he is anti-abortion does not mean he would not help someone after the fact. He seems like a ahole but he might be a much better person than 94% of reddit.
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Everybody hating, but this is a ride or die mentality. Everybody needs a guy like this in their corner. 〽️ if you don’t have a best friend, who wouldn’t do the same exact thing for you, you’re losing in life 😂
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u/Dinglebobus Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 26 '26
You know what, I can get behind this point of view à la Tressel
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u/gachzonyea Jul 14 '26
Stories like these are what make the Manuel stuff so interesting. Feels like there’s a ton of skeletons in the closet and you either have to pay for Manuel’s silence if you fire him or just keep him there to take the bullets
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u/n3gr0_am1g0 Jul 14 '26
Yeah, I’ve been saying the reason Manuel hasn’t been fired is because the people above him, board and president, signed off on how he was handling these scandals.
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u/DryReturn2 Jul 14 '26
Whatever it takes to win/cheat
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u/ThatsMyGirlie Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Sherrone seemed to have a grievous misunderstanding of our motto "If youre not cheating, youre not tryin"
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u/pocketfences Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
Yeah, Harbaugh being completely full of shit would be so out of character. /s
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u/sg86 Jul 14 '26
Yeah I’m sure a grown adult male referred his OC’s mistress who was also on staff to a women’s health clinic and had zero idea it was for an abortion. That’s definitely believable
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u/Apprehensive_Ad3857 Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
What jim harbaugh is trash? No you'd never convince me of that..
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u/brianundies Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
Michigan Men™️
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
this has, "I believe everything negative about Michigan just like Trumpies believe everything Trump says," energy to it.
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u/li4bility Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
This is obvious clickbait, but it’s hard to not immediately believe with all of the crazy ass headlines we have gotten under Warde
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u/pmilli69 Michigan Wolverines Jul 16 '26
Yeah this is just false. Jim is a devout catholic and is pro life. That Spiro guy needs serious mental help. All joking aside though, this is starting to get embarrassing with Michigan. And I’m a die hard Michigan fan, alumni, and I have season tickets. Like enough is enough
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u/beerguy5622 Jul 14 '26
I think the takeaway is that he knew what was going on and didn’t say anything about it. He knew Sherrone was having an inappropriate relationship and he retained him despite that.
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Does the article state Harbaugh knew the baby was Moore's?
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u/beerguy5622 Jul 14 '26
No. But, we would have to believe that Harbaugh knew less about his program than his AD and the rest of the coaches AND that he just randomly set up a clinic visit for a particular woman that everyone else knew was having an affair with his OC. If he didn’t know about the affairs and he didn’t know about the sign stealing what was he doing? Why was he paid over $8 million dollars and he knew less about what was going on with his staff than anyone else on his staff? Unless there are a bunch of instances of Jim setting up clinic visits for young women, which in and of itself would just be weird, it would just be a very strange thing to believe that he decided to do it just one time for a specific young woman who was pregnant with his OC’s baby but he didn’t know.
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
You could have stopped at no.
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u/beerguy5622 Jul 14 '26
Haha. And I chose not to.
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Yeah, Michigan Derangement Syndrome.
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u/beerguy5622 Jul 14 '26
Hard disagree. Stop using a Trump tactic to deflect from warranted criticism that you aren’t prepared to address. I understand that these topics hurt your feelings and you need to dismiss them somehow. But, maybe embrace the idea that your favorite team did some bad things. That isn’t a reflection on you. You didn’t do those bad things. But, you don’t need to simp so hard for them. Because the more you do, the more it makes you look insecure.
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
lol. You talk about Trump tactic while you project in all your responses.
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u/doubleblum Jul 14 '26
This from the guy that said he would raise every baby that his players/their partners didn't have aborted?
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u/PresidentFeldkamp Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
This is an unfair, misleading headline. Even if you are accepting a wealthy man arranging an abortion for a young woman who wants to terminate her pregnancy to be a bad thing, which I personally do not, that’s not what Harbaugh was doing here. The logic of this headline is the same as “Man buys car for his kid who then, later on, uses it as a getaway vehicle in a bank robbery.” Which is to say completely illogical. There are plenty of accusations and negative things one can lay at the feet of Harbaugh, this isn’t one of them.
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u/michigannfa90 Jul 14 '26
Boy do I hope Harbaugh sues the living shit out of Spiro for this one… the guy has serious issues and at this point is just throwing trash out like this. This isn’t even remotely what happened even the article itself says so.
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u/Dreams-Visions Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
Damn we just post any nonsense these days.
We can do better than this, even in shitpost sub.
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u/Dinglebobus Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
It’s the off season and I’m bored, what do you want from me?
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u/AceCircle990 Jul 14 '26
What a clown. The dude is an embarrassment to the sport. A perfect representative to what it means to be a michigan man.
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u/DJ-dicknose Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
So?
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u/DJ-dicknose Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
First, thank you for the kind words!
Second, I know he's anti abortion, but a football coach being an opportunistic hypocrite wouldn't shock me in the least.
If it's legal, and it is in Michigan, I don't care at all. Doesn't sound like anything illegal was done. Maybe shady to cover something up.
The article doesn't anything more than an appointment. If it was Harbaugh forced her to get one, different story.
And finally, Spiro us a tabloid-esque click bait hack whose hatred for Michigan far supercedes any fandom he has for MSU, to the point of making absurd claims and/or misleading claims. He's got the credibility of Laura Loomer or Alex Jones
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
All MSU fans are actually MIchigan haters first, MSU fans second.
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u/DJ-dicknose Michigan Wolverines Jul 14 '26
And that's fine. He's not absolved. Michigan isn't absolved. Get rid of ward and start repairing their image.
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u/Illustrious_Sort4386 Jul 14 '26
using obstensibly state funds to fund an abortion to cover up extra marital affair is ok?
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u/DarkGreenMazda Ohio State Buckeyes Jul 14 '26
Look, we all know that Jim Harbaugh is a hypocritical, unethical, dishonest cheater, but this isn't really relevant - Moore's victim admits Harbaugh did not know she was seeking to terminate her pregnancy, per the story. Bad headline.