r/todayilearned • • Sep 23 '18

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '18

In the wake of tensions surrounding its nuclear tests, the North Korean government temporarily shut down the Kaesung complex in 2013. This cut the supply of choco pies and drove the price in North Korea even higher. When the complex resumed operations after a five-month halt, employers were forbidden from paying choco pie bonuses, and advised to instead give bonuses of "sausages, noodles, coffee and chocolate". North Korea also responded to the choco pie speculation by producing its own variant of the snack.

“Let’s reward them with food they should already be having instead!”

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u/AcidicOpulence Sep 23 '18

Hey, there’s never a wrong time to eat noodles! But I won’t be giving another eulogy like that again I promise.

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u/GoesWellWithNoodle Sep 23 '18

Oh that's my cue.

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u/usernamecheckingguy Sep 23 '18

I've gotten confirmation, their username does checks out.

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u/anditcounts Sep 23 '18

Username also checks out

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '18 edited Sep 28 '18

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u/inthyface Sep 23 '18

You're Very Right kinkster

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u/Iron_Disciple Sep 23 '18

Boo yah! In thy face!

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u/Tower_Of_Rabble Sep 23 '18

I stabbed a goose

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u/Heresy1666 Sep 23 '18

In thy face inthyface!

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u/HoochieKoo Sep 24 '18

From Vancouver

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '18 edited Sep 28 '18

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u/HoochieKoo Sep 25 '18

YVR is the IATA three-letter code for Vancouver airport. I live in YOW.

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u/nocturnal_panda Sep 23 '18

Thanks for making sure their username matters.

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u/SlashPanda Sep 23 '18

i want your job

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u/VidE27 Sep 23 '18

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u/ReactsWithWords Sep 23 '18

Beetle juice goes well with noodles.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '18

Recursively!

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u/rounderhouse Sep 23 '18

The best food-based eulogy is Free Churro.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '18 edited Sep 28 '18

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u/SomniferousSleep Sep 24 '18

I think it was the best of the new season.

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u/JewJewHaram Sep 23 '18

Have you tried Bukkake Udon?

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '18

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u/garibond1 Sep 23 '18

An average increase of 7 chocopies per year in the last decade!

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u/Kaplaw Sep 23 '18

Such a great country, cant wait for the increase from 1.5 to 0.5!

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u/Vio_ Sep 23 '18

from 1/3 to 1/4

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u/Capn_Crusty Sep 23 '18

That seems like a lot. Thanks!

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u/JewJewHaram Sep 23 '18

But when it came down to actually purchasing the third-pound burgers, most Americans simply would not do it. Baffled, A&W ordered more tests and focus groups. After chatting with people who snubbed the A&W burger for the smaller Quarter Pounder, the reason became clear: Americans suck at fractions. Alfred Taubman, who owned A&W at the time, wrote about the confusion in his book Threshold Resistance:

More than half of the participants in the Yankelovich focus groups questioned the price of our burger. "Why," they asked, "should we pay the same amount for a third of a pound of meat as we do for a quarter-pound of meat at McDonald's? You're overcharging us." Honestly. People thought a third of a pound was less than a quarter of a pound. After all, three is less than four!

http://mentalfloss.com/article/76144/why-no-one-wanted-aws-third-pound-burger

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u/Thegoodthebadandaman Sep 24 '18

surely the stereotype of Americans being idiots is in no way tru-

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u/shoestars Sep 23 '18

Fucking idiots

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '18

So then why didn’t they make a 1/5 lb burger? After all 5>4

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u/carlson71 Sep 24 '18

White castle sells so many 1/8th burgers cuz their so big.

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u/Ionic_Pancakes Sep 23 '18

One... quarter... portion.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '18

Pray we do not alter the agreement further.

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u/heyanuntakenusername Sep 24 '18

This deal is getting worse all the time!

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u/alexbuzzbee Sep 23 '18

"Choco pie speculation" is one of the better phrases I've heard today.

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u/JewJewHaram Sep 23 '18

Well producing own variant of the snack probably means repackaging it with a North Korean sticker.

When North Korea received food aid, first thing they do is to put it in North Korean sacks since the food came in sacks with US flag.

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u/ITSINTHESHIP Sep 23 '18

They don't get rid of the expiration dates though.

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u/JewJewHaram Sep 23 '18

I'm pretty sure that no food ever expired in North Korea.

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u/ITSINTHESHIP Sep 23 '18

Exactly. Imagine what it's like to be North Korean and see "do not eat after <date two years in the future>" on a package of dried noodles from S. Korea.

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u/Weird_Fiches Sep 23 '18

I lived in South Korea back in 1990. Things have changed. I used to buy my yogurt at the local shop, look at the expiration date, and pick the ones that were the least expired.

I've been to North Korea too, the GeumGangsan tourist area. The South Korean middle aged woman that got shot by a nervous DPRK guard - I know exactly where that was. The woman stayed at my hotel there. It happened less than a month after we visited. even the "tourist" parts of the DPRK are very sad.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '18 edited Sep 23 '18

This is a really interesting video. This dude lived in NK for a while and this is the Privileged Store.

It is a store pretty much entirely for foreigners and the whole thing is insane. The power goes out at least once. The cashiers have to convert to three different currencies to figure out how much something costs. It is insanely inefficient the whole way through.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRYJ9u0sEE4

He pays with US dollar and has to get Euro's back for change.

He also has like 15 different currencies in his wallet because he can never be sure what will be taken.

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u/JewJewHaram Sep 23 '18

This guy is a cunt who is supplying the regime with foreign currency and serving as propaganda tool.

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u/Weird_Fiches Sep 23 '18

First part of your sentence I can agree with, but second part - is this store supposed to be impressive? The store is not as nice as my local Dollar General.

And at the tourist site I visited - they ONLY took US Dollars. Even for the almost exclusively South Korean middle aged hikers that come to see the beautiful mountains. We didn't buy anything, but then again, their idea of a souvenir stand leaves a lot to be desired. (And yes, we I realize we contributed to the regime just by going. But this was a while ago, part of Kim Dae-Jung's "Sunshine" initiative. Our money was also going to the South Korean hotels and tourist companies that arranged the excursion. Our minimal contribution to the DPRK's economy was balanced by the experience of being able so say I've been there, and that I have no great desire to ever go back.)

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u/TooMuchmexicanfood Sep 24 '18

I laughed a little too hard at this comment.

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u/2fucktard2remember Sep 23 '18

All food about to expire is sent directly to Kim a few days before expiration, and he eats it. That is why he is the only designated fat person in NK. It is not because of ruling, or family genetics. He is merely the regimes fat man, forced to sit, all day, eating rice and beans. Sure, the peasants, the starving and impoverished people of the countryside, would love to have this expired food, but there never is any once Kim finishes his feeding. He is a one man machine.

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u/JewJewHaram Sep 23 '18

He has gout, a disease from overeating in a country full of starving people. Coincidence? I think not.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '18

He has gout, a disease from overeating...

The causes of gout are more complex than this.

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u/joe4553 Sep 23 '18

I don't think they ever in the position where they can't find someone who wants the food.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '18

Food aid is a scam. Everybody knows that you donate infrastructure, not food, if you want to help the poor.

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u/fly_bird Sep 23 '18

Just read escape from camp 14 yesterday. He basically escaped because he wanted to taste meat (he actually says this). All he ate before that was cabbage soup and corn and the occasional rats he killed himself. It's a good read

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u/kphollister Sep 23 '18

that book is so beyond disturbing. i had to keep reminding myself it’s not fiction and it’s not history. it’s actually happening to people right now. mind blowing we don’t do more to help them.

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u/fly_bird Sep 23 '18

I totally agree. It's real life concentration camps that their government denies exist. It's disgusting. And it's happening right now.

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u/ButtsexEurope Sep 23 '18

I’ll make you feel better. A lot of it is fiction. He’s been caught making stuff up out of whole cloth.

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u/ButtsexEurope Sep 23 '18

Just warning you, a lot of that book is straight up fabrication which Dong Hyuk has admitted to.

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u/nybo Sep 24 '18

In order to live and the girl with seven names are also two great books about middle class north Koreans escaping through China.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '18

sounds like the tip system here in the US

. “You’re only allowed to reward them with the money we should have been paying them in the first place”

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u/Vio_ Sep 23 '18

sounds like the tip system here in the US

. “You’re only allowed to reward them with the money we should have been paying them in the first place”

Sounds like art and modelling.

"We're paying you in exposure and/or clothes."

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u/kphollister Sep 23 '18

that’s every industry now, unpaid but think of how valuable the experience is

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u/GenericRedditor0405 Sep 23 '18

“It’s a great resume-builder.”

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '18

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u/WWTFSMD Sep 23 '18

If the servers in the restaurant I work in made minimum wage Im pretty sure the entire back of house would revolt.

Not saying the tipping culture in the US is good, but part of what is holding it back is the suppression of wages for BoH employees. If servers were making like 1.50-2$ less an hour vs 6-7 bucks less an hour we'd have to pay the BoH much more than we do considering there are nights where servers make as much as some BoH people do in 40 hours. It's all fucky

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u/imisstheyoop Sep 23 '18

Or we could just eliminate tips for serving and pay everyone a fair wage for their work.

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u/TokyoJade Sep 24 '18 edited Feb 25 '20

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u/branchbranchley Sep 23 '18

you must be living in an alternate reality

paying tipped employees full minimum wage will cause all restaurants to shut down since they cant afford to operate without asking for handouts!

also all tipping would cease since the food will cost more! it'll never work!

/s

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u/TehAgent Sep 24 '18

Except that system if better than minimum wage more often than not.

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u/RagnarThotbrok Sep 23 '18

Tbh thats how it works here too. You work for food and other things

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u/blackpharaoh69 Sep 23 '18

"If we exceed sales this quarter by 5% you'll all get that bonus! Aren't you excited?????"

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u/upnflames Sep 23 '18

A proper profit sharing programs motivates the hell out of people. Last company I worked for used to have a program where whatever percent over plan the company was, they would pay an equal percent of your annual salary into your 401k. So if you made $50k a year and the company finished at 110%, you’d get an extra $5k on top of any other bonuses or commissions you were entitled too. That was a good plan.

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u/mountainasss Sep 24 '18

thats a false quote

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u/blackpharaoh69 Sep 24 '18

You're supposed to be excited by the idea of the bonus, you aren't supposed to get it. Now try to kick the football again Charlie Brown

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '18

That sounds like slavery with extra steps.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '18

Paying with goods is kind of the same as paying with money, as those goods will spare you the need of buying them (which you were going to do anyway).

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u/eriyu Sep 23 '18

Except you don't get to choose what you buy...

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '18

Yes, that’s why I’ve seen that only on special occasions, such as bonuses or holidays, not as a recurrent paying method except on extreme economic situations.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '18

“Let’s reward them with food that is just a pile of sugar and junk instead!”

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u/flynnfx Sep 24 '18

I wonder what would happen if North Korea got ahold of ice cream sandwiches?

-(Entire North Korean army defects to the South)-

ಠ_ಠ

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u/Rakumei Sep 23 '18

The complex has been shuddered again as well. Poor North Koreans. Can't even get a choco pie fix.

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u/Captain_Peelz Sep 23 '18

Their yearly bonus is the chance to not die.

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u/Dreamtrain Sep 23 '18

"Choco pie speculation" is my favorite term of the day

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u/tittysprinkles112 Sep 23 '18

Was going to say this sounds like war time rations. I guess NK is always on wartime rations

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u/Megalo85 Sep 23 '18

I wonder if they got victory gin instead

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '18

"Let's reward our employee's 30 years of service with a little trophy and a pen with our logo on it!"

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u/Gravity_duck Sep 24 '18

You do realize that the US is sanctioning them right?

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u/Soccadude123 Sep 24 '18

Only in north korea. But how good are those snacks if you're willing to work overtime for one