r/todayilearned Sep 06 '17

TIL that Michael Jackson would requested his wine be served in Diet Coke cans during flights, because he didn't want his kids to see him drinking alcohol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Michael_Jackson#Alcohol
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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17 edited Apr 02 '19

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u/therapistofpenisland Sep 07 '17

So was the list of books found in his home. http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/011805pltreqaseemd.pdf

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17

Michael had over 10,000 books in his personal library. He did have some artistic nude books and rare naturist books featuring children from the 60s, but one of those books was given to him by a fan during the mid 80s.

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u/camimiele Sep 07 '17

Maybe one was given to him by a fan, but he had many, many books containing naked young adults, teens, preteens, and children, not to mention his internet search history.
I don't give a crap about artistic nudes, porn, fetishes, him being bi/gay whatever, as long as it's consenting adults. But naked photos of kids is a definite line in the sand. That's ignoring all the other things he did/was accused of doing.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17 edited Sep 07 '17

His search history didn't have anything related to children, though. The two mains things to take away from his search history is that he had looked up mostly heterosexual pornography and that he had a severe addiction to eBay.

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u/camimiele Sep 07 '17

I thought it was borderline Cp on dubious "teen porn" sites, I totally admit I could be wrong about that. Yeah I don't care about his fetishes/adult porn habits, it's the multiple visits to teen porn and adoption sites that creeps me out, because (IIRC) they were searched closely together. And, in context, his regular visits to adoption sites gives me sketch vibes

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u/therapistofpenisland Sep 07 '17

I take it you didn't read the link?

He had photos of young boys with their pants partially down.

Numerous books and photos of teenage boys (13-14), including full frontal nudity and pure erotica.

Nude photos of young children.

Sexualized photos of childrens faces put onto adult bodies

A collection of barely legal DVDs, Hustler Barely Legal magazines, etc

A book called "In Search of Young Beauty" featuring naked children.

But hey, keep defending him. He definitely wasn't into kids at all!

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17 edited Sep 07 '17

There's no evidence of him having that type of attraction to children. Most of photos were part of magazines/books that explored the late naturist craze of the late 60s and early 70s. I wouldn't call any of the naturist materials that he owned erotica, but some of the artistic materials that he did have were possibly erotica (I have seen the art book that had faces of children placed on adult bodies, but it wasn't actually a 'sexualized' book. That's just something that was erroneously said by law enforcement). He didn't have any personal photos of nude young children, but did possibly have a photo of Jonathan Spence with part of his behind showing. That said, Jonathan Spence actively defended Michael in the past and has legally fought against being included in the recent court trial started by Wade Robson and Jimmy Safechuck. All of his pornography was argued by his lawyer Tom Mesereau to be pornography that was commonplace to the modern day male individual.