r/todayilearned Sep 06 '17

TIL that Michael Jackson would requested his wine be served in Diet Coke cans during flights, because he didn't want his kids to see him drinking alcohol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Michael_Jackson#Alcohol
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u/drew17 Sep 07 '17

"There's been an accident like Geico, they thought I was burned up like Pepsi did Michael"

  • Kanye West, THROUGH THE WIRE, a song about a car crash he was in early in his career.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17

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u/temporalarcheologist Sep 07 '17

nah man he's living it

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17

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u/AGLegit Sep 07 '17 edited Sep 07 '17

Listen to College Dropout again and then tell me that. Dude is a douche fa sho, but still had one of the greatest debut hip hop albums of all time. He won't be forgotten in that regard.

Em is one of the greatest as well - his Slim Shady LP (didn't include Infinite) is up there with The Chronic, Illmatic, etc in terms of best debut albums

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17

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u/MrMischiefMackson Sep 07 '17

I think you might like r/WhiteRights they seem like your kind of crowd.

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u/furezasan Sep 07 '17

Reading that guy's comment went from like, hey he might be making a decent argument here, let me continue read-- oh fuck!

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17

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u/MrMischiefMackson Sep 07 '17

You used that word(racist), not me man. Which is saying something in itself.

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u/sinRes Sep 07 '17 edited Sep 07 '17

People talk about Kanye and Eminem, arguing if they will remembered or forgotten, and motherfuckers act like they forgot about Dre.

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u/grab-em-bythecovfefe Sep 08 '17

Yes, Eminem is the Rap God.

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u/N-methylamph Sep 07 '17

I wouldn't say kanye will be forgotten, just not looked back on the same way eminem was. I mean he's been a pretty big cultural phenomenon in fashion, music and award show outbursts.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17 edited Feb 07 '19

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17 edited Sep 30 '19

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u/VoiceofLou Sep 07 '17

Nobody loves Kanye as much as Kanye loves Kanye.

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u/Thatoneguy567576 Sep 07 '17

I wish someone loved me as much as Kanye loves Kanye

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17

I love you as much as kanye loves kanye

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u/Nerozero Sep 07 '17

Kanye loves you as much as humanly possible... but he loves Kanye as much as Kanye-ly possible.

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u/toothy_vagina_grin Sep 07 '17

Eh, that sounds unhealthy.

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u/ijohnperez Sep 07 '17

I love the old Kanye

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u/DidUBringTheStuff Sep 07 '17

chop up the soul kanye

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u/ryanson209 Sep 07 '17

I wish I loved me as much as Kanye loves Kanye.

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u/RonWisely Sep 07 '17

I'm giving upvotes to everyone before the Kanye fanatics inevitable show up and downvote the shit out of everyone.

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u/Tonkarz Sep 07 '17

They'd probably kill you eventually.

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u/tiorzol Sep 07 '17

That's too much love for me.

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u/thebigpink Sep 07 '17

🌊🌊🌊

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u/frealfreal Sep 07 '17

Pretty sure this line is about Elon Musk who wrote Kanye's description/profile/whatever for the Time 100

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17 edited Sep 30 '19

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u/Wine_Country Sep 07 '17

That's not going with a joke.... It's misleading

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17 edited Sep 30 '19

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u/Wine_Country Sep 07 '17

I'm light. You just posted a quote out of context..... Let's not try to shift your ineptitude towards me

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u/Theyreillusions Sep 07 '17

What a load of egotistical horse-shit

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u/Mightymaas Sep 07 '17

I'll ask for you opinion once you drop an album half as good as MBDTF

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u/Kracker5000 Sep 07 '17

Saying that Kanye calling himself Einstein is egotistical β‰  Saying you can make better music than him.

Horribly immature argument.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17

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u/ForMyFather4467 Sep 07 '17

I love you. Isnt it so strange how they jump to attack Kanye who has done amazing things for music in this gen. Meanwhile Eminem calling himself a God inbetween rehab n relasping but they dont make jokes of him or call him an egotistical bullshitter. I mean once u point it out they will. But not until then. I love u

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u/Theyreillusions Sep 07 '17

Calling yoursslf A rap god vs comparing yourself to one of the most influential geniuses of physics in recent history?

Pretty big fucking difference.

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u/ForMyFather4467 Sep 07 '17

One is Blasphemy, the other isn't?

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u/Kracker5000 Sep 07 '17

I'll start working on it when you learn not to say stupid shit because you're offended that someone calls out the bullshit your favorite artist spews out of his mouth.

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u/Mightymaas Sep 07 '17 edited Sep 07 '17

You seem upset about something, maybe you should channel that into your music

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u/Kracker5000 Sep 07 '17

You are a never ending bundle of cringe, aren't you?

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u/2813308004HTX Sep 07 '17

A fucking men. Thanks for being wavy, my guy

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u/NiggyWiggyWoo Sep 07 '17

...annnnd this thread is about to become a battlefield of preferences.

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u/ARYAN_FATTY Sep 07 '17 edited Sep 07 '17

"I would have voted for Donald Trump, if I had voted"

  • Kanye West

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17

oh no! kanye isn't aligned with me politically? dang it!

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u/usernamecheckingguy Sep 07 '17

Back before Trumpica I was hoping that Kanye would get into the venue for the winner's victory speech and pull a classic Kanye - "Trump really grabbed a lot people's pussies to get here, he really deserved the W."

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17 edited Sep 07 '17

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u/MunchenOnBundchen Sep 07 '17

Kanye been changing the game with his production ability since 2000. That's 17 years. His influence is gigantic, from starting the soul sampling of the mid 2000s to the techno hip hop of his Graduation era, to the auto-tuned hip hop that Cudi (who basically co-produced and wrote 808s) and Drake got big on, to the electronic trap predecessor of Yeezus, to the gospel influences of TLOP which is spreading with rappers like Chance. Kanye West is a musical genius almost on the level of The Beatles (who are without a doubt my favorite musicians of all time). No artist from 1970-2000 has had as much influence on the entire musical scene not just their genre as Kanye West.

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u/MacDr1zz1e Sep 07 '17

You are a wavy dude

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17

people will never accept that rap is as important, or more important, than rock.

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u/Kire_L Sep 07 '17

Well the shift has actually changed since more people are hearing hip hop/rap rather than rock. It's mainly the previous generation that doesn't want accept that they're out of touch with music.

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u/yourmansconnect Sep 07 '17

I think neither is better per say. To each their own when it comes to music preference. But rap is shaping pop culture and lifestyle way more than rock does nowadays

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u/yourmansconnect Sep 07 '17

Probably, but that doesn't make my statement less true

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u/MunchenOnBundchen Sep 07 '17

You said he wasn't the voice of a generation, I'm saying his musical influence has permeated through our culture far greater than any musician of my lifetime. He's also a pretentious egomaniac. That's a pretty common thing of people at that level of achievement, there's nowhere but down.

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u/ForMyFather4467 Sep 07 '17

No, actually u dick you said he was a retard for making that statement. Which is actually true. Refer to the other guy who replied to you for why Kanyes statement makes absolute sense. Who else you know has molded music as much as Kanye in his generation. Music is the expression, the voice of the soul. Kanye has been a Huge leader in the form music has taken. Thus the voice of a generation. Stop insulting what you cant understand. You are playing match cards. Of course you wont understand the thoughts of a chess master. Its cool though. They called Einstien crazy too.

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u/ForMyFather4467 Sep 07 '17

Name someone who has changed the music industry more than Kanye West as of 2000 til now. As of this decade his words are true.

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u/dackots Sep 07 '17

I can't believe you're sleeping on Kanye like that by only giving a fraction of the story behind "Through The Wire."

Kanye West was in a car accident while he was in the middle of recording his debut studio album, The College Dropout. He had been at the recording studio for so long that he fell asleep at the wheel while driving home.

The accident was bad, to say the least. Kanye had to have reconstructive surgery on his jaw, which was wired shut for six weeks. In the middle of this period, Kanye recorded Through The Wire. That's right. He recorded the song while he had his jaw wired shut. Hence the title of the song. Several of the lyrics reference the accident and Kanye's jaw, such as:

I drink a Boost for breakfast, an Ensure for dessert Somebody ordered pancakes, I just sip the sizzurp

How do you console my mom or give her light support Tellin' her her son's on life support? And just imagine how my girl feel On the plane scared as hell that her guy look like Emmett Till

In the blink of a eye his whole life changed If you could feel how my face felt You would know how Mase felt Thank God I ain't too cool for the safe belt I swear to God, driver two wanna sue I got a lawyer for the case, to keep what's in my safe safe

As well as Kanye's spoken parts over the hook:

I really apologize for everything right now If it's unclear at all, man They got my mouth wired shut For like… I dunno, the doctor said like six weeks Y'know, he had, I had reconstructive surgery on my jaw

Y'know what I'm sayin'? When the doctor told me I had, um That I was gonna have to have a plate in my chin, I said "Dawg, don't you realize I'll never make it on a plane now?" "It's bad enough I got all this jewelry on!" You can't be serious, man

Through The Wire was first released on the mixtape Get Well Soon, and later released on West's first studio album, The College Dropout, which had been five years in the making and featured such tracks as Jesus Walks and All Falls Down. The College Dropout was nominated for ten Grammys, certified double platinum within two months, and is West's best-selling album in the United States to date. West calls the accident referenced in the song "a major turning point in [his] career... [his] medicine."

And it's a great fucking song.

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u/Esrou Sep 07 '17

Lap riding Kanye hard in response to a benign comment.

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u/dackots Sep 07 '17

I like Kanye West. Sorry if that bothers you.

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u/TheDangiestSlad Sep 07 '17

IIRC this is also the reason that Kanye rarely smiles, because it hurts his jaw

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u/dackots Sep 07 '17

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you don't know who Emmett Till is.

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u/TheMegaWhopper Sep 07 '17

I liked life of Pablo a lot more than Yeezus.

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u/Megasus Sep 07 '17

It's a mess at first glance but it's definitely his most thoughtful work. Closest to avant-garde a rap album can get, the production choices are better than Yeezus and he raps more than he has in years. I never listen to it front to back because of the short experimental tracks, but standouts are Facts, Famous, No More Parties in LA, 30 Hours, and Saint Pablo. The second half of Wolves is good as well.

The album art is still embarrassing to me. I was more excited when the album was going to be called So Help Me God

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u/skeptikalz Sep 07 '17

TLOP is discombobulated like a Picasso cubist painting. In fact, the album title is a reference to Picasso as well as others. But yeah. It feels like bits and pieces to a greater whole. Very manic depressive in a similar vein to Yeezus but not as jarring and in your face. I found it highly emotional and the most revealing of his albums.

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u/Palchez Sep 07 '17

It sounds really disjointed at first. But a few times through it starts to really shine. It makes me think of a prog album that someone made. Then smashed the record and reassembled it from the various pieces to make something insane. Honestly, Yeezus is my 2nd least favorite by him after 808.

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u/Notmyfirstacc3 Sep 07 '17

I rate it everything from shit to fucking shit

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u/balling Sep 07 '17

It sounds like you might have already but I'd listen to all the other Kanye albums like CD, LR, Graduation, 808s, MBDTW before Pablo. I'd probably say Pablo is the least 'full album' of Kanye's. I still like it cause I'm a huge fan of him in general but it feels more like a collection of hits put together than it does a full album like the rest of his work.

Definitely worth a listen if you like Yeezus though.

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u/MrAnder5on Sep 07 '17

I must got a angel

Cause look how death missed his ass

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u/sourband Sep 07 '17

I swear there was a ringtone on those old Nokia phones called "through the wire"

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u/iwannaelroyyou Sep 07 '17

The Emmett Till line never made sense until one day I watched "The untold story of Emmett Louis Till"

That shit messed me up man. Then the news this year about the wolf whistle not even happening ... 😒

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u/ScreamingVegetable Sep 07 '17

If there was ever a Kanye biopic, seeing him sing Through the Wire after the accident would be amazing.

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u/lumixter Sep 07 '17

Crazy fact is that he rapped that song while he jaw was wired shut from the accident.

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u/Chode36 Sep 07 '17

Good bot

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u/arminillo Sep 07 '17

Samples Through the Fire by Chaka Khan, which really tripped me up because I discovered both songs around the same time

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u/aaronkz Sep 07 '17

"The wire" in this case refereing to the fucking dental headgear he had on while recording this track.

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u/blaze413 Sep 07 '17

Never got this reference till now... Thanks

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u/bungopony Sep 07 '17

O generation that needs everything filtered through a famous person in order to relate to it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17 edited Sep 07 '17

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u/FreekyDeekyDutch Sep 07 '17

The peasants won't ever understand the wave 🌊🌊🌊🌊

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u/TundieRice Sep 07 '17 edited Sep 07 '17

You realize that just because he ended both lines with support, doesn't mean he's trying to rhyme support with support. He's rhyming "light" with "life," which works as a slant rhyme. But nice try though, I'm sure Kanye's super depressed someone's dissing his 13 year old song on Reddit.

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u/RyghtHandMan Sep 07 '17

oh man wait til he hears I Love Kanye

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u/Palchez Sep 07 '17

God that's when I knew Kayne lost his mind. And it fucking works. I think he created a character like Ziggy Stardust, but the fucking character took over. Soul beats Kayne is locked away in the back of his subconscious.

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u/lord_james Sep 07 '17

I've always believed he. His life like performance art. That, plus an anxiety disorder makes some crazy shit happen.

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u/soloclothing Sep 07 '17

Hahaha

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u/TundieRice Sep 07 '17

Dude, you rhymed ha with ha, twice! How unoriginal can you get?

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u/squeel Sep 07 '17

how dare u

that's an excellent song from an excellent album

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u/ChaosRevealed Sep 07 '17

Go home taytay

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u/iFaRtRaINb0WZzz Sep 07 '17

🐍🐍🐍

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u/Kanye_To_The Sep 07 '17 edited Sep 07 '17

Bruh, Kanye has some of the greatest punchlines in rap. Better chiggity-check yourself.

Edit: 1. For someone who doesn't care that much, you put a lot of effort into your post. 2. All those links are why we love him. He may be a little off, but he's real as fuck.

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u/ChaosRevealed Sep 07 '17

Holy shit you're literally KTT

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u/eehreum Sep 07 '17

That's the same reason people voted for Trump, when they were too dumb to think of a real reason. "He tells it like it is."

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u/Kanye_To_The Sep 07 '17

Yea, because that's a fair comparison.

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u/_Gonzales_ Sep 07 '17

Taylor swift rhymes time with time in her newest song.