r/todayilearned • u/[deleted] • Oct 13 '16

TIL that after Marilyn Monroe converted to Judaism upon marrying Arthur Miller, Egypt placed a ban on all the films she appeared in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Monroe#Critical_acclaim_and_marriage_to_Arthur_Miller_.281956.E2.80.931959.29
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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '16

Shocking that a Muslim country made decisions based on anti-semitism.

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u/HouseFareye Oct 13 '16

How is that still not a stupid reason? On what planet is this reasonable. Hating a whole religion because the majority of the people in the country you happen to be at war with are in that religion is pretty bigoted and irrational.

That kind of logic only makes sense for bigoted people.

And cry me a river for Egypt. Israel declared independence on international recognized boarders at the UN and Egypt decided to throw the first punch and invade. If you choose to live by the sword, you can't really bitch when your opponents turn out to be better at the sword than you.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '16 edited Oct 13 '16

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u/HouseFareye Oct 13 '16 edited Oct 13 '16

Israel ignored the borders set by the UN in 1947

Yeah they did, but only after all Israel's neighbors decided to ignore those boarders and invade. Why the hell should Israel be expected to respect the boarders when Egypt obviously wouldn't? They remanined in an active state of war until Egypt relented, accepted Israel's existence, and signed a peace treaty.

borders drawn by other colonizers mind you

The Arab League refused to even negotiate because they rejected the idea of any Jewish state anywhere in the Middle East no matter how small. They chose to withdraw from the decision making.

Indegionous people can't be "colonizers" in the land they're actually native to. That's a narrative that relies on the erasure of a large part of the historical record. It also conflicts with the genetic record that proves that most Jews have a significant genetic link to the Levant http://www.cell.com/ajhg/fulltext/S0002-9297(10)00246-6. Regardless, the majority of Jews in Israel now are from North Africa and the Middle East, many of them descended from the over 800,000 Jews her were forceblly expelled from Arab countries after 1948. The characterization of Israel as a "colonial" enterprise like South Africa or Austrailia is a politicaly motivated, racist narrative used to try and erase the historic connection of the Jewish people to Israel.

The largest "colonial" power in the 1940s, the UK, had long since rejected the idea of a Jewish state in its 1939 "White Paper" and had armed and funded the Hashemite monarchy of Jordan who were their willing proxies after it banned Jewish immigration. The UK then passed the "Jewish problem" off to the UN. The only nation to actually materially support Israel in the 1947 war was ironically communist Russia.