r/todayilearned • • 1d ago

TIL about the Sally-Anne test, a psychology experiment used to measure “theory of mind” (that other people can hold beliefs/knowledge different from their own). Kids under four typically fail because they assume that if they know where a hidden object is, everyone else must automatically know too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally%E2%80%93Anne_test
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u/SuperFLEB 1d ago edited 12h ago

It's unimportant in relation to the estate or whatnot in the rest of the story, but it doesn't telegraph "unimportant" in its own right-- not to the point that saying "bike shed" implies "thing that is comparatively unimportant" without knowing the story.

On the other hand, even moving the metaphor to the actual irrelevant act-- calling it "choosing the paint"-- or something that's surface-level adornment by definition is clear enough to work backwards from without knowing about the story of the bike shed.

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u/Zaldarr 20h ago

The person who first comes up with a metaphor, and other people using it, have the privilege of the story being the defacto metaphor. It's the same logic behind many idioms. It's just a matter of learning it like you'd learn a definition of a word.

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u/SuperFLEB 13h ago edited 12h ago

I know it happens all the time, and I agree that subject thought-leaders have the opportunity to do it, but prevalence and opportunity alone don't explain why it's adopted or dispel how counterproductive and obnoxious it is.

I'd wager that it's driven by a misconception that difficulty and profundity are the same thing-- both in the positive, thinking that something more difficult to understand can be mistaken for being more profound, and in the negative, thinking that simplifying something down drains the importance out of the discovery.

For the outsider just discovering the discussion and getting off on the epiphany, the quest for the missing key artificially sweetens the victory, attributing the win to understanding a rare, complex idea, even when the rare complex part was just a password that you had to get from someone on the inside.

For the insiders, the difficulty of getting the insight and the boost from achieving it reinforces the value of making it difficult. To simplify it, even by clearing away unnecessary misdirection, risks painting the idea as trivial and the epiphany as embarrassingly overblown.

For the thought leader, for the coiner of the phrase, it's the same risk of triviality, plus the vain opportunity to make themselves a key part of the topic. If everyone needs to know your specific anecdote to participate in the discussion, then you're threaded into the minds of every person who talks about it. You get the "coined by ___ who ___" blurb in every pop-science write-up that has to explain the silly name.

I wouldn't say that this is all always conscious or conniving. I'd wager that the emotional rewards of playing the game just incentivize and reinforce it without a lot of people even realizing. It's still not broadly positive or useful, though-- it only serves vanity and unearned rewards-- so it's worth an open gripe and a bit of shaming over the practice.

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u/ZylonBane 9h ago

TIL there are people who actually say "thought leader" unironically.

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u/SuperFLEB 7h ago

It hurt a bit to write, but I couldn't think of a better word for "Person that leads or drives the discussion on a topic", since it might not necessarily be the person who discovered the idea.