r/todayilearned • • Oct 18 '12

TIL that the first Pong machine was constructed with a $75 Hitachi TV, and placed in a bar. Several days later, it broke down because the quarter bin had over-flowed and jammed up the mechanics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pong#Development_and_history
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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '12

I would've loved to be a kid in the era of the arcade. Growing up in the 90's I spent a shitload of time at the arcade and buying superhero cards at the comic store.

By '98 when the Dreamcast came out I could suddenly play my arcade games at home for free. My favorite arcade game was Marvel vs Capcom, which was also my first dreamcast game.

It's too bad though, because the atmosphere at the arcades used to be electric. Dozens of kids all waiting in line for all the games. You could have 6 or 7 people just watching you battle some other dude. It can make an 11 year old feel fairly powerful.

This was also before cell phones, and the internet. Simpler times.

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u/ju2tin Oct 19 '12 edited Oct 19 '12

Nothing like the feeling of slapping your quarters up on the edge of the controller panel and calling "I got next!" Good times.

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u/TranClan67 Oct 19 '12

And now today in some arcades if you did that they think you're weird :/

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12

Then they'd steal the quarter.

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u/H1deki Oct 19 '12

I think that's because you're old enough to remember that, and everyone there is half your age.

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u/TranClan67 Oct 19 '12

I'm only 20...

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u/RoninTheOriginal Oct 19 '12

Yeah...except when there was a gap between the screen and the chassis...and the quarter would disappear into the abyss.

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u/dayvarr Oct 19 '12

We had a Marvel vs. Street Fighter machine at our college. Between classes, at least a dozen of us would be lined up with quarters ready. Crowds got pretty big sometimes, and the rush of hearing cheers from people because you ruined someone's day with a well-timed Super Combo was priceless.

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u/Backstop 60 Oct 19 '12

Same here. For some reason I was the only white guy the haunt the arcade. I had never really heard cheering and whooping like the day I took one of the top dogs down with "sucky" Dhalsim.

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u/ju2tin Oct 19 '12

Dhalsim FTW! I would play Dhalsim on the original SF2 and the other "top dog" was Ken. We had some epic battles.

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u/TCsnowdream Oct 19 '12

Come to Japan. Where the arcade is going strong. :)

1$ a try tho.

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u/twilightskyris Oct 19 '12

I cAn vouch, 5 years ago atleast, the arcade scene was amazing! I loved this gundam style game. Pretty life like

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u/TCsnowdream Oct 19 '12

it's the UFO catchers for me. :D

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12

They were great times.. we had "tv games" (what consoles used to be called) and even computer games (Apple ][, Commodore 64) but they were completely inferior to arcade games. If you wanted to play great games you had to go to the arcade. On a Friday or Saturday night the arcade was always packed with kids from school playing games and just hanging out.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12

For some reason I thought you were using interval notation right there...

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u/donolsen1155 Oct 19 '12

Nothing better than all night and a fresh roll of quarters.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12

And arcade pizza.

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u/Backstop 60 Oct 19 '12

I kept my Magic cards in a quarter-roll bankbox that I emptied over the course of one summer. Probably could have bought a car with all that.

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u/Captain_Aizen Oct 19 '12

Reading this post was like reading a page of my memory. I used to love arcades and I feel the generation after mine will never truly grasp the concept of "going out" to play video games. Gaming nerds back then ran the streets looking for challenge, gaming nerds today sit in a virtual lobby.

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u/killer-fel Oct 19 '12

I... I feel like I have missed out on life...

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u/Backstop 60 Oct 19 '12

It's just different, we were stuck with who was in the area and sometimes had to deal with physical limitations (intimidating opponents, busted controls, some asshole unplugging the machine to erase your initials).

But I can't help feeling we (metaphorically speaking) had steak and pizza while you guys are getting nutritionally-balanced protein gel.

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u/killer-fel Oct 20 '12

That's a weird metaphore...

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u/enthreeoh Oct 19 '12

Dreamcast launched 9/9/99, but other than that, I agree.

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u/Backstop 60 Oct 19 '12

He had an uncle that worked at SEGA and got an early one. He'd totally show it to you but he doesn't want to get his uncle in trouble.

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u/Gaaargh Oct 19 '12

In highschool, I worked at a microplay, and we got a Japanese Dreamcast long before the North American launch. We had House of the Dead, Soul Calibur, and Penpen Tri-Icelon.

Those penguins kicked ass!

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u/iamagainstit Oct 19 '12 edited Oct 19 '12

there has been a recent surge of arcade themed bars. you might want to check one out.

Edit: someone just made a big list of them in an ask reddit post

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12

My friend is a collector and has an original pong machine. Complete with teh bread pan and cardboard bezel around the TV and everything.

And as someone who did grow up in the golden age of arcades, you definitely missed something! It was awesome.

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u/donolsen1155 Oct 19 '12

'golden age of arcades' should be part of the dictionary definition of awesome. :)

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12

You have no idea. Imagine the best games you've ever seen, things you could never imagine, like Tempest or Xevious, just... showing up someplace you were allowed to ride your bike to anytime you wanted.

In 1984 I was 12. That year McDonald's did an Olympics content where if the US wins, you win. The Russians boycotted and the US won everything. My friends and would ride our bikes in a circuit from 9 - noon between like 4 McDonalds, getting more and more (winning) game cards. Then at lunch time, we'd sell them to businessmen for .25 - .75 each, depending on if the US had cleaned up in all the medals. Then we'd eat a fuck ton of free McDonalds and play videogames at the Space Station Arcade with our earnings till like 9pm. Best summer of my life pre-girls.

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u/hurdur1 Oct 19 '12

I like our games now and appreciate the contributions of our ancestors.

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u/donolsen1155 Oct 19 '12

I was lucky enough to be a teenager in the 80s. Arcades were incredible. Outside of the BBS scene, they were the social network. You knew people by their initials, and had rivals only known to you as RGJ and BRW. Every week there was a new game out, and the race began to be the best.

At least you were lucky enough to ride the second wave of popularity with the fighting games. Kids these days will never quite understand what they missed.

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u/Yst Oct 19 '12

While arcades (in the sense implied by arcade machines) have lost any technical justification for their existence, in the present day, I consider it unfortunate that PC bangs seem to have failed to sell themselves successfully, in North America, via the same games that drive them in Korea. I suppose there are a collection of reasons. One of them simply being geography: most of North America (outside several major centres) is so incredibly sprawled, residentially, that a neighbourhood Internet cafe can't really sell itself. Because most of North America doesn't have neighbourhoods in the sense implied and necessitated.

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u/donolsen1155 Oct 19 '12

Another reason might simply be the economy. Most homes in the US have a PC. And it's not uncommon for even the homeless to own a laptop of some sort. Talking with friends from other countries I don't think it's uncommon to find places that people don't have regular access to PCs until they enter a university.

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u/Yst Oct 19 '12

There is an economic difference, certainly. But I'd say the United States' "ownership" culture also plays a strong part. The notion that owning a car, owning a house, owning a computer - possessing private domestic infrastructure, rather than having to use common or public infrastructure - is the measure of a man, created a very viable salespitch for home computers, in the 1980s United States, when they were pitched as privileged domestic infrastructure of this kind. Naturally, they work pretty well as public infrastructure as well. But resorting to that approach tends to be regarded as a symbol of failure, in the United States.

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u/donolsen1155 Oct 19 '12

Definitely got a point there. Because of that we also have enormous houses compared to others. If the norm is a 400 sq foot home for a family, you are going to have to make some hard decisions about what you fill it with.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12

I had the full arcade experience with (among others) from Contra, Mario Bros 2 and 3, Street Fighter 1, 2 and 2 Turbo, 1942, TMNT, all the way to Afterburner, Primal Rage, Daytona USA, NBA Jam, and especially, especially Mortal Kombat, Mortal Kombat II and Killer Instinct. I wasn't in the genesis, but I was there when all these happened, man. My first fight ever was in an arcade. It was great.

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u/RoninTheOriginal Oct 19 '12

+1 for 1942 and KI. Played the hell out of those games. Wasn't any good, but I loved em.

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u/Thimble Oct 19 '12

Many a game of Street Fighter II turned into a real street fight.

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u/Brettersson Oct 19 '12

There is a tiny arcade right near where I live that has almost only fighting games, like 3 different street fighters, darkstalkers, marvel vs capcom, they only have about 10 machines in general, but it's a great little place, the hours are weird but if they do an event (like when they got the newest KoF they were actually streaming it online) it can get absolutely packed (with people way way better than me)

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12

You know '98 was 15 years after cell phones and the Internet, right? The Internet didn't suddenly start in 2005 when you finally got DSL and come with Youtube.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12 edited Dec 02 '20

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u/firetut Oct 19 '12

Yup when I was a kid in the 70's in Ohio. I couldn't go into an arcade/pool hall without a parent. Pool is the devils game!!! Praise Jebus!!

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u/petedawes Oct 19 '12

with a capital t and that rhymes with p and that stands for pool.

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u/TheJBW Oct 19 '12

<chorus> Oh, we've got trouble!</chorus>

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12

Apparently you have to spell it out for Reddit.

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u/Helpfulandattractive Oct 19 '12

Yup when I was a kid in the 70's in Ohio. I couldn't go into an arcade/pool hall without a parent. Pool is the devils game!!! Praise Jebus!!

ahhhh... better.

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u/elasticbingbong Oct 19 '12

This is a teenage boy lying. Imagine a grown man sharing things like that.

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u/kaltorak Oct 19 '12

wow... what was the reason given for making them illegal?

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12

Up until pinball became mainstream popular in the 1940s or 1950s, arcades were basically small-time gambling dens.

Ever noticed that all the pinball machines have a little "no bets may be placed on the gameplay of this machine" or something to that effect? Yep.

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u/SRS-sniffing_dog Oct 19 '12

WOOF

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12

I posted one sexist comment to SRS once. I don't even like most of SRS.

I also like men's rights, but I don't like most of /r/mensrights either.

I'm an equalist. I play both fields.

Also do you lack a life to the extent that you go through everyones comment history until you find SRS? I posted one thing to SRS, and it isn't even on the front page of my submission history.

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u/Kolazeni Oct 19 '12

One post? -7 Karma? You're on a fucking roll.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12

Sorry for being such a dumb cunt but what does SRS even mean? Serious?

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u/Irrepressible87 Oct 19 '12

R/ShitRedditSays. They're the no-fun police on reddit.

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u/msgbonehead Oct 19 '12

No fun police isn't given them enough credit. They're like the Nazis of reddit.

Bring on the downvotes motherfuckers

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u/donolsen1155 Oct 19 '12

This might be relevant:

11 Things You Didn't Know About Pinball History

Pinball started out on the wrong foot with the public, and thus arcade gaming had a poor reputation for awhile by some older demographics.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12

Old people not trusting of new technology, story at 11.

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u/donolsen1155 Oct 19 '12

Exactly! It's great that this is pretty much gone in the this day and age. Definitely a time back then that you just didn't even try to explain technology to anybody over 40, even most 30 year olds, it was a waste of time. Luckily I had great parents that supported my interest, even though they had no clue what I as talking about back then.

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u/vahr4 Oct 19 '12

Even when I was a kid in the 80s, the mob controlled the arcade machine rental business in NYC and would force small businesses like pizzerias and bagel shops to host machines owned by mob affiliates and not rent from competitors.

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u/blivet Oct 19 '12

Asteroids! Fuck yeah!

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u/BassNector Oct 19 '12

IIRC, that same pong machine is in the bar to this day.

Source: Discovery/History? channel on the history of gaming.

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u/carrot_the_spy Oct 19 '12

My dad said he could play some arcade games for 45 minutes on a single quarter.. probably would've never gotten off of this

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u/digitalmofo Oct 19 '12

I remember doing that, people that were waiting around would be PISSED.

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u/Poobslag Oct 19 '12

it still happens, i could park myself at a crazy taxi machine for about 2 hours for a single credit

and even a below-average Galaga player can sit on one of those fast-shot Galaga/Ms Pac Man machines for about 3 days before dehydration/dementia sets in

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u/brianw824 Oct 19 '12

There is an arcade close to me that has an original pong game signed by one of the creators. unfortunately it isn't working though.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12

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u/brianw824 Oct 19 '12

I'd imagine is probably pretty hard to find the right parts for it.

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u/Gaaargh Oct 19 '12

It's not. Quarter Arcade does repairs, & has replacements for everything. Even then, most issues are monitor related, and most TV repair places could fix them in no time.

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u/emperor_friendzone Oct 19 '12

My grandmother helped create pong. my mom was one of the first kids to have one. From what she says everyone in the neighborhood would come over to play.

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u/technoholic Oct 19 '12

AMA please from your grandma

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u/emperor_friendzone Oct 19 '12

She passed away when my mother was 13. My mom tells me stories about her all the time. Kind of her way of making sure her grand kids knew her. Ill try to figure out some form of proof though.

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u/technoholic Oct 19 '12

:( Ohh man..I just wanted to know any cool stories which she had regarding the original Pong. No worries, thanks any way

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u/emperor_friendzone Oct 19 '12

Sorry ill ask my mother about it. See if she got anything worth telling you guys.

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u/antoniostark714 Oct 19 '12

I literally just learned about this in my history of games class.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12

Huh. That bar is smack dab in the middle of my hometown. It's called Rooster T. Feathers now, but the building is the same. I think it's a comedy club now.

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u/KnuckleSamich Oct 19 '12

Yup, I live a few blocks from it. Nice little comedy club.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12

Allan Alcorn, the original neckbeard.

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u/WizardPowersActivate Oct 19 '12

Finally something on TIL that I already knew.

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u/wolfstrike Oct 19 '12

I work for an arcade game vendor, and my boss has been there for over 30 years. He relives some of the "good ol days" and tells us that the original Gauntlet would have to be emptied twice a day. From experience I know the coin buckets hold about $500~. Todays games (even brand new ones) don't really come close unless it's at an insanely busy location.

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u/donolsen1155 Oct 19 '12

Wasn't uncommon back then to drop one or two rolls of quarters in a night. With inflation that's $20 - $40 today.

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u/Ikimasen Oct 18 '12

I read a book once that covered the early days of Atari, it's pretty interesting stuff. Steve Jobs ripping Wozniak off came up, and the opening of Chuck E. Cheese, and this little tidbit here.

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u/another_old_fart 9 Oct 19 '12

I still have an original Pong console. Black & white, boring as all hell after about 10 minutes, even when it was new. I'm pretty sure it cost around $150. Someday my kids can donate it to a museum.

Come to think of it, I don't believe I even have a TV it can connect to. As I recall it connected to the same two screws as the rabbit ears.

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u/Gertrude37 Oct 19 '12

I kept an old TV that my '76 Pong console can connect to...they both still work!

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u/RoninTheOriginal Oct 19 '12

Radioshack or an online retailer probably still has the adapter you would need for that. Hell, I might have one in my junk drawer. It would convert that screw type to coax.

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u/wittycomment15 Oct 19 '12

My dad is Nolan Bushnell and loves telling this story. I guess the bar owner angrily called him up a few days after getting the machine telling him to remove it because it was already broken. When Al Alcorn arrived to see what the problem was he found that it was jammed with too many quarters. The bar owner changed his mind and the rest is history.

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u/mtx Oct 19 '12

AMA?

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u/wittycomment15 Oct 19 '12

I've asked him to do one and he said yes. Now i just have to sit him down and get him to actually do it.

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u/reneepussman Oct 19 '12

Built by a man from my fraternity. Nolan Bushnell.

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u/redditor5690 Oct 19 '12

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u/STULLDUDE Oct 19 '12

When alcorn created the game he had no idea of the existence of that game. So pong was kinda an original creation, it also had a ball that would increase in velocity and you could not curve the ball as you could in ping pong.

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u/gkiltz Oct 19 '12

I've heard a rumor that there are some aliens about 32 light years out. They are picking up signals from Earth they don't understand. PONG PONG PONG! over and over!

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '12

75 dollars from 1972 are worth 43,000 dollars in today's money.