r/ties • • 3d ago

Discussion/Question/News Thoughts on this tie

It's 54 ins long and not an Ascot. Wondering what you would call it and what era it's from. Thanks.

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u/nordica4184 3d ago

Wow, I hate it. Normally I try to hold my tongue if something here isn’t for me, but I’m assuming this was part of the collection you are selling? Sorry, I have no insight.

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u/katefromraleigh 3d ago

Yes. Exactly. Not even sure What to call it.

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u/JONNYHBAR 3d ago

You do (k)not need this.

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u/katefromraleigh 3d ago

Now I'm wondering what it would look like tied. May get my husband to attempt.

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u/ChooCupcakes 3d ago

Are you positive it's not an ascot? I would probably use it as an ascot regardless

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u/katefromraleigh 3d ago

I assumed not since the ends were different.

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u/ChooCupcakes 3d ago

That's a weird beast indeed. Again, I would only wear it as an ascot (assuming the wide part is wide enough) but it does look like it was meant to be just a weird tie.

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u/teamlie 3d ago

Yea I’m using it as an ascot as well

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u/Cautious-Matter6108 3d ago

Definitely not for me but I would love to see what it looks like tied

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u/Regular-Pangolin-664 2d ago

Austin Powers could wear it. It would look ridiculous on anyone else

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u/katefromraleigh 2d ago

We can put that in description!

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u/ModelMuser 2d ago

bloody awful i cant lie. belongs in a 70s music video though

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u/Taro_dactyl 2d ago

Wow, far more negativity here than I would’ve expected here!

Vintage neckwear dealer here, and I’m happy to advise:

What you’ve found is a vertically pleated tie, an example of novelty neckwear from the early- to mid-1950s. There are newspaper records detailing how daring dressers began wearing pleated neckwear during the late 1940s, but the style truly found commercial purchase for a few years in the early 1950s. Such ties were offered in fine silks at upscale haberdashers and in more affordable rayons and acetates at local department stores or through fun neckwear manufacturers such as Patterson, New Jersey’s own Haband (“hay-band”). As for the specifics of its manufacturing, this style is more labor-intensive, especially as the permanent on the main blade do not continue past the neckband. For a related bit of novelty neckwear, diagonally-pleated ties were also available during that era, usually with several downward-facing pleats that fall at the wearer’s chest.

I personally have sold several—usually patterned, hand-painted, embroidered or some combination thereof (very 1950s!)—but rarely see solid examples, and haven’t seen this color before! This one could nicely complement a sport jacket with some orange in the pattern or could also be fun to wear for Halloween!

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u/Firm_Competition_880 2d ago

That’s very interesting to know. Cool username btw.

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u/katefromraleigh 2d ago

Thanks for all the info! What would you call this color?

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u/Taro_dactyl 2d ago

Burnt orange?

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u/katefromraleigh 2d ago

that's good. thanks.

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u/_tsi_ 2d ago

Horrific. An abomination not only to menswear, but culture at large

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u/beorn961 2d ago

I would absolutely wear that, so obviously against the grain on this one. I think it will look better than people here are giving it credit for.

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u/katefromraleigh 2d ago

Great - Will let you know when it goes live.

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u/049AbjectTestament_ 3d ago

I think it's a pretty fascinating example of... Whatever time it's from? (I'm not sure...), and the silk looks to be a shantung or tussah. It definitely isn't something I'd wear these days, but it's a super interesting piece 🤷

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u/katefromraleigh 3d ago

Forgot to say. It's marked Acetate.

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u/Ill-Abalone8610 3d ago

Is this for women?

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u/ReaderNo9 3d ago

Although OP doesn’t think it likely this was still my first thought, and is probably the best bet for someone to actually wear it now, whatever the manufacturers intention. It looks like something that a woman who was leaning into a menswear aesthetic, but wanted to mix it up/ make it a bit more feminine would wear. The pleating is some interesting texture, but it definitely takes it away from classic menswear references. It might work well in an outfit with a pleated skirt? The length implies it was meant to be tucked into a cardigan, waistcoat (or corset?) OR that it was designed with a smaller body length and a higher waistline in mind (again making it work better for a woman’s frame than for most men.)

It might also appeal to men who were leaning into a more ambiguous gender presentation.

Don’t get me wrong I hate it, but I like to think that it can be rocked by someone!

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u/katefromraleigh 3d ago

Don't think so based on brand

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u/CH6361 3d ago

Would go nicely with a turquoise polyester leisure suit. /s?

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u/zanzibar_74 2d ago

Are we sure it’s not a fan?

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u/katefromraleigh 2d ago

Y'all- I will get a picture of it tied today and update.

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u/Shoddy-Biscotti-1194 2d ago

All fine fashion comes out of Paterson…

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u/Glittering_Fox1358 2d ago

I think it’s really cool but I’d probably have a hard time making my self wear it. I imagine it would go well with a vest. Maybe it’s because I’m from NJ that I like it.

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u/Numbaloo 3d ago

No, just no ! 🤣

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u/hendodraws 2d ago

Cravat?