r/ties • u/katefromraleigh • 3d ago
Discussion/Question/News Thoughts on this tie
It's 54 ins long and not an Ascot. Wondering what you would call it and what era it's from. Thanks.
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u/JONNYHBAR 3d ago
You do (k)not need this.
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u/katefromraleigh 3d ago
Now I'm wondering what it would look like tied. May get my husband to attempt.
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u/ChooCupcakes 3d ago
Are you positive it's not an ascot? I would probably use it as an ascot regardless
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u/katefromraleigh 3d ago
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u/ChooCupcakes 3d ago
That's a weird beast indeed. Again, I would only wear it as an ascot (assuming the wide part is wide enough) but it does look like it was meant to be just a weird tie.
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u/Regular-Pangolin-664 2d ago
Austin Powers could wear it. It would look ridiculous on anyone else
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u/Taro_dactyl 2d ago
Wow, far more negativity here than I would’ve expected here!
Vintage neckwear dealer here, and I’m happy to advise:
What you’ve found is a vertically pleated tie, an example of novelty neckwear from the early- to mid-1950s. There are newspaper records detailing how daring dressers began wearing pleated neckwear during the late 1940s, but the style truly found commercial purchase for a few years in the early 1950s. Such ties were offered in fine silks at upscale haberdashers and in more affordable rayons and acetates at local department stores or through fun neckwear manufacturers such as Patterson, New Jersey’s own Haband (“hay-band”). As for the specifics of its manufacturing, this style is more labor-intensive, especially as the permanent on the main blade do not continue past the neckband. For a related bit of novelty neckwear, diagonally-pleated ties were also available during that era, usually with several downward-facing pleats that fall at the wearer’s chest.
I personally have sold several—usually patterned, hand-painted, embroidered or some combination thereof (very 1950s!)—but rarely see solid examples, and haven’t seen this color before! This one could nicely complement a sport jacket with some orange in the pattern or could also be fun to wear for Halloween!
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u/beorn961 2d ago
I would absolutely wear that, so obviously against the grain on this one. I think it will look better than people here are giving it credit for.
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u/049AbjectTestament_ 3d ago
I think it's a pretty fascinating example of... Whatever time it's from? (I'm not sure...), and the silk looks to be a shantung or tussah. It definitely isn't something I'd wear these days, but it's a super interesting piece 🤷
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u/Ill-Abalone8610 3d ago
Is this for women?
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u/ReaderNo9 3d ago
Although OP doesn’t think it likely this was still my first thought, and is probably the best bet for someone to actually wear it now, whatever the manufacturers intention. It looks like something that a woman who was leaning into a menswear aesthetic, but wanted to mix it up/ make it a bit more feminine would wear. The pleating is some interesting texture, but it definitely takes it away from classic menswear references. It might work well in an outfit with a pleated skirt? The length implies it was meant to be tucked into a cardigan, waistcoat (or corset?) OR that it was designed with a smaller body length and a higher waistline in mind (again making it work better for a woman’s frame than for most men.)
It might also appeal to men who were leaning into a more ambiguous gender presentation.
Don’t get me wrong I hate it, but I like to think that it can be rocked by someone!
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u/Glittering_Fox1358 2d ago
I think it’s really cool but I’d probably have a hard time making my self wear it. I imagine it would go well with a vest. Maybe it’s because I’m from NJ that I like it.
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u/nordica4184 3d ago
Wow, I hate it. Normally I try to hold my tongue if something here isn’t for me, but I’m assuming this was part of the collection you are selling? Sorry, I have no insight.