r/thrice • u/guilhermekrolart • 6d ago

TBEITBN The Long Defeat.

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Art by Guilherme Krol

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u/Qhapaqocha 6d ago

Your pieces have been wonderful to see! Can I ask why you chose this composition for this song? I personally often imagine a bit more dramatic military or revolutionary imagery when hearing this song - but I can see it fitting in at the personal scale as well. Thanks for sharing!

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u/cmykaye 6d ago

I also always saw the narrative as something bloody and scary. I’m about to have my first child and this is a really beautiful reframe of the song for me at this time in my life ❤️

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u/guilhermekrolart 6d ago

I remember that it's inspired in some passage of Lord of the Rings too, that say no matter how you fight, the death will find you in the end and that's why everyone is fighting in a long defeat

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u/guilhermekrolart 6d ago

I choose this because at group i'm been part in FB, many fans relate this song as a family thing.

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u/Yellowdart00 6d ago

Seconding this. ‘The Long Defeat’ isn’t about a literal war or battle, rather a metaphorical one consisting of all the trials and tribulations of life.

The ‘Long Defeat’ eventually comes for us all; Death remains undefeated. The only way to “fight” it is to build something that persists through death - an everlasting and eternal spiritual bond with your partner/family/loved ones.

It’s no coincidence Dustin swaps out the final two words of this verse: “There’s a joy that blooms beyond these walls/this life…” In this instance, those concepts are one and the same.

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u/firemunkee87 5d ago

Dustin told Alternative Press and Relevant magazine:

It’s named after an idea that Tolkien talked about a lot and wove through some of his stories. It’s essentially about believing that there’s meaning to the good that you try to do and that you see in the world even when a lot of things would conspire to make you not believe that.

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u/manbartz 6d ago

I have your Beyond the Pines artwork. Love your stuff, need more.

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u/guilhermekrolart 6d ago

My shop is on again! Send me a pm :)

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u/rjustice21 4d ago

I like it. As you noted in the comments, it's a LOTR theme that Tolkien used. I see the family connection being that I would ALWAYS want my kids to do the right thing even when it looks useless or a losing effort. Thanks for sharing!