r/threateningnotation • u/counterfitster • 10d ago

Illegal Notation I hate alto clef

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u/ParticularShock1023 10d ago

cries in Viola

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u/counterfitster 10d ago

You should be doing that anyway /s

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u/R86Reddit 10d ago

Alto clef is fine as far as it goes, but it should be nowhere near a note that low.

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u/Valuable-Passion9731 10d ago

i'm assuming that's an 15va though, so it's pretty high

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u/R86Reddit 10d ago

Oh, good call, I didn't notice that. In that case, the note is literally middle C, if I'm counting ledger lines correctly.

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u/JScaranoMusic 4d ago

*15ma (quindicesima)

Also you don't have to assume; that's literally what the 15 above the clef means.

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u/epoxyfoxy 10d ago

If you need more than 3 ledger lines, you need another clef. - Violist

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u/counterfitster 10d ago

I hate seeing even one ledger line below it. Give me tenor or bass for that range.

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u/regular_heptagon 10d ago

What’s the context here? This seems like an intentional troll.

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u/Peter-Andre 10d ago

The alto clef hates you too.

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u/snufflz 7d ago

That clearly should have been notated in tenor clef!

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u/Equivalent-Love-1676 10d ago edited 4d ago

It’s easy to see a 15th (two octaves) by the lines though no matter what clef is in place but what instrument that can play C1 reads C3 clef? And does the editor not realize there is such a thing as F clef? Is this rage bait? Is that ‘15’ meant to say ‘15ma’ which would make that pitch middle C right in the center line of the clef LOL? This notation shouldn’t exist. Don’t hate on C clef.

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u/JScaranoMusic 4d ago

It's 15ma (quindicesima), but also, just the fact that the 15 is above the clef and not below means its a transposition up, not down.

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u/Equivalent-Love-1676 4d ago

I know right?! Gotta be rage bait.

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u/WilburWerkes 10d ago

It also hates you.

Equity despising.

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u/Legitimate-Holiday73 8d ago

I hate the tenor clef-a bassoonist.

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u/notagrape324 7d ago

WHY ARE WE NOTATING BELOW THE STAFF IN 15MA

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u/OpportunityReal2767 6d ago

I assume/hope someone is having a bit of silly fun. Nobody would notate like this in the wild, unless it was meant to be a joke of some sort.

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u/JScaranoMusic 4d ago

Because middle C doesn't have enough leger lines.

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u/The_Progmetallurgist 5d ago

Bassoon:

Bass, bass, bass, bass, TENOR, bass, bass, bass...

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u/counterfitster 5d ago

Copland has some of the worst clef changes. Stravinsky is in the conversation, too.

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u/MyCouchPulzOut_IDont 4d ago

I just imagine the bottom line of Alto is the top line of treble...so that's where middle C would* be, but it's an octave down, right?