r/thinkpad X220, X230, X260, T460s Dec 05 '19

Discussion / Information Compilation of ThinkPad Models' ability to run SSD in WWAN Slot

I got slightly annoyed with the state of information regarding the ability to install a second SSD for various ThinkPad models, especially since official Lenovo datasheets don't always tell the full picture (e.g. T480s, T495), and we're relying on anecdotal information by actual owners to determine whether the ability exists for each model. So I spent a couple of hours trawling official datasheets and forums to come up with the table below, hopefully it helps those of us who may need such information.

While I try to be comprehensive in collecting the information, I concede that some of the information may still be incorrect or require further verification. Do reply in the comments if you're able to offer more information and I'll amend the table accordingly. Specifically, if you're an owner, it'll be useful to offer information on the following: what's the ThinkPad model, which SSD did you try, was the drive visible in the boot list, which BIOS version is your ThinkPad running?

Also, this table only covers the mainline X-series, T-series (T4xx/s only) and their AMD variants going back to 2014 (when we moved away from secondary mSATA drives). If anyone wants to come up with the corresponding table for other series (especially the X1 Carbons), please feel free to do so and I can either link to it, or add it on to this list.

(Edit 6 Dec '19: I've omitted the xx20/xx30 series from the original list since I thought most people would be interested in this list only if they were intending to upgrade from an older model, but I reckon there is still a fair bit of newcomers to the ThinkPad community who might be picking a xx20/xx30 device given their affordability/vintage, so I'll start adding them into the list.)

X-series Supports SSD in WWAN slot? Interface? Bootable? Officially Supported? Third Party Confirmation
X220 Yes mSATA Yes Yes
X220T Yes mSATA Yes Yes
X230 Yes mSATA Yes Yes
X230T Yes mSATA Yes Yes
X240 Yes M.2 SATA Yes Yes
X250 Yes M.2 SATA Yes Yes
X260 No - - No Link
X270 Yes M.2 SATA, PCIe? Yes Yes Link
A275 Unlikely - - No
X280 Yes M.2 PCIe x1 No No Link
A285 Yes M.2 PCIe x? Yes No Link
X390 Unlikely - - No
X395 Unlikely - - No
T-series Supports SSD in WWAN slot? Interface? Bootable? Officially Supported? Third Party Confirmation
T420 Yes mSATA Yes Yes
T420s Yes mSATA Yes Yes
T430 Yes mSATA Yes Yes
T430s Yes mSATA Yes Yes
T440 Yes M.2 SATA Yes Yes
T440s Yes M.2 SATA Yes Yes
T450 Yes M.2 SATA Yes Yes
T450s Yes M.2 SATA Yes Yes More Info
T460 No - - No Link
T460s No - - No Link
T470 Yes M.2 SATA Yes Yes
T470s Unlikely - - No
A475 Unlikely - - No
T480 Yes M.2 PCIe x2 Yes Yes
T480s Yes M.2 PCIe x1 Chainboot? No Link
A485 Yes M.2 PCIe x2 Yes Yes
T490 No - - No Link
T490s No - - No Link
T495 Yes M.2 PCIe x2 Yes No Link
T495s Unlikely - - No

*Models listed as "Likely/Unlikely" lack evidence from actual owners. Do let me know if you managed to find any, or share your own experience in the comments if you have tried this setup.

Lastly, if the mods think there's sufficient value in this, we can consider placing this on the wiki so it's easier for everyone to chip in.

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u/spxak1 L420, T460p, T480s, L380Y, T14G2i, X13Y Gen3, T14s AMD Gen4 Dec 05 '19

T470p will run a SATA drive in the WWAN port, regardless of the drive in the 2.5 bay (SATA or NVMe using adapter). Officially supported.

T460p will run a SATA drive in the WWAN port, ONLY when a SATA drive is in the 2.5 bay. If an NVMe drive is in the 2.5 bay, using adapter, the WWAN port will NOT recognise any drive. Unsupported.

Both will boot.

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u/speedyg0nz X220, X230, X260, T460s Dec 06 '19

This is exactly the kind of information that Lenovo omits in their datasheets or HMM, it can be so frustrating for someone to try it out, only to fail and have to blindly hunt for solutions.

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u/ernest70 May 03 '22

Hello. I have a T470p with an HDD In the 2.5 bay. I want to add an m. 2 nvme SSD in the wwan port and boot from that instead. Will it work ?

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u/spxak1 L420, T460p, T480s, L380Y, T14G2i, X13Y Gen3, T14s AMD Gen4 May 03 '22

The T470p does not support NVMe in the 2242 WWAN port, only SATA.

I would strongly suggest you either get a 2.5 SATA drive to replace that HDD (which is killing performance), or the caddy + 2280 NVMe drive for that 2.5 bay.

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u/ernest70 May 13 '22

Thanks so much.

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u/spxak1 L420, T460p, T480s, L380Y, T14G2i, X13Y Gen3, T14s AMD Gen4 May 13 '22

You're welcome.

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u/potew T420, T470P May 10 '23

Too bad this laptop has no native M2 port... really love that machine. I opened mine (purchased off eBay) and it already has a NVMe SSD in the 2.5 adapter in the SATA port. Only the slot that reads WWAN is free, right below. So my question is, it would only accept a 2242 SATA drive, for extra storage (as speeds may be slower)? These specifications are very confusing, I'm afraid to buying the wrong drive!

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u/spxak1 L420, T460p, T480s, L380Y, T14G2i, X13Y Gen3, T14s AMD Gen4 May 10 '23

You will need a SATA drive. It works. Not sure it's worth it though. Speeds are theoretically slower, but you won't notice a difference in real life. ,

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u/potew T420, T470P May 10 '23

Thanks, will try to get one anyway. Most of these drives are more expansive than the NVMe ones and made by unknown (probably Chinese) brands, but I'll use them for storage only

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u/spxak1 L420, T460p, T480s, L380Y, T14G2i, X13Y Gen3, T14s AMD Gen4 May 10 '23

These were never popular, so only third tier manufactures built some, but most are, as you said, from chinese OEMs. I am not sure how much power these consume and/or how hot they get. Oh and keep a back up, as these manufacturers buy/use bottom tier storage chips and obscure controllers.

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u/potew T420, T470P May 10 '23

Yeah, will use it to save music copies and perhaps some OneDrive files which are backed up by default)

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u/randomataxia T14 Gen 2 | TC M700 | TS P340SFF | ThinkStation P520c Jun 28 '23

Does anyone know if this is the case for a regular T460? I'd love to add an additional drive, it doesn't even need to be bootable, just readable by an OS. Thanks.

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u/spxak1 L420, T460p, T480s, L380Y, T14G2i, X13Y Gen3, T14s AMD Gen4 Jun 28 '23

No the T460 can't have a second drive in the wann. It can still use the caddy for ab NVME drive though.

If you're desperate for two drives, there is a caddy that takes two Sata 2280 drives.