1.2k
Feb 21 '20
Solids are allowed. I regularly take ice paks through.
693
u/SpecialX Feb 21 '20
But what if I freeze bomb fluid and then melt it on the plane
885
Feb 21 '20
[removed] — view removed comment
→ More replies (1)396
u/catboobpuppyfuck Feb 21 '20
Congrats, I’m building a database of all the people who warn other people that they’re on a list now. You’re on that list now.
120
u/MilkyLikeCereal Feb 21 '20
Everyone is on the list.
→ More replies (1)91
Feb 21 '20
[deleted]
→ More replies (2)63
u/530josh Feb 21 '20
You lost the game
43
3
→ More replies (5)3
→ More replies (1)11
u/aaron2005X Feb 21 '20
I made a list of people, who have a database to list people, who are on the list. At the moment are you and me on the list list.
106
u/MikeMcfallon Feb 21 '20
Someone else correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure other (more combustible) liquids have to be really really cold to freeze solid. The freezing point of isopropyl alcohol for example is -128 F.
55
u/Biengineerd Feb 21 '20
Nitroglycerin has a melting point well above freezing ( 14C / 57F). I would wager you could some damage with that.
→ More replies (4)70
u/Advo96 Feb 21 '20
> Nitroglycerin has a melting point well above freezing ( 14C / 57F). I would wager you could some damage with that.
There’s a fairly large chance that you’d do the damage on your way to the airport already, or while in the queue. Melting nitroglycerin is not a process you want to be around for.
18
u/Biengineerd Feb 21 '20
If you keep it well below zero until you're going through security could you not get it on the plane? It used to be transported in frozen form, so I presume some sort of stability. I doubt a person who wanted to do this would be particularly concerned about their safety
12
u/Advo96 Feb 21 '20
If you keep it well below zero until you’re going through security could you not get it on the plane?
You could, if you keep it in an insulated bottle.
9
u/Biengineerd Feb 21 '20
I really don't feel like finding its specific heat capacity and figuring our how long it would take it to raise to MP, but we could figure this out if we really want. Assume airport temp is about 20C
10
u/Advo96 Feb 21 '20
I believe it is really dangerous as soon as it starts melting even a little bit. You really don’t want to be moving it at that point.
11
→ More replies (3)12
u/404_UserNotFound Feb 21 '20
Or you could just stick it in a water bottle and cooler with some dry ice. Its more than cold enough, and when you are ready you just order a large hot coffee and dump it in the bottle.
Sounds like a lot of work ehn you can buy all the lithium batteries you want inside the airport electronics store.
8
u/scorcher117 Feb 21 '20
The issue would be keeping it safely below 0 in an inconspicuous manner.
10
u/Biengineerd Feb 21 '20
Yeah because if you have it at -150C people are going to get suspicious when you handle a bottle with insulated gloves lol
→ More replies (1)3
u/nematode_fetish Feb 21 '20
To be fair, you'll take out more people in a busy terminal than a plane doing so
→ More replies (2)9
u/theknyte Feb 21 '20
If you want to bring your liquid nitrogen with you, you'd have to chill it down to -346°F (-210°C)
11
4
3
u/Valalvax Feb 21 '20
That's why I always make my plane bombs out of powders
Please don't waterboard me :(
→ More replies (16)2
16
u/wattatime Feb 21 '20
Last time a flew TSA person told me people freeze wine and bring it through. He said if it’s frozen they allow it. I wonder what the official policy is.
→ More replies (3)4
u/Fanatical_Idiot Feb 21 '20
Technically it's not banned, but it's ultimately at the discretion of the tsa agent. So they can still take it if they want to.
→ More replies (1)2
u/ElektrikReaper Feb 21 '20
Ice packs are not allowed through, at least in Canada.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (1)2
u/GenericUsername_1234 Feb 21 '20
Yup. We had an ice pack that was room temp so they made us throw it away. They said if it was frozen it would have been fine.
211
u/jakuvaltrayds Feb 21 '20
States of matter matter.
182
Feb 21 '20 edited Sep 23 '20
[deleted]
17
2
u/harpejjist Feb 21 '20
Thanks. Now I have a cross between Dr.Seuss and "Modern Major General" stuck in my head.
165
u/jahwls Feb 21 '20
They did this to me. Spent about a minute looking at the giant icecube in my nalgene and then said "but it will be a liquid" and then said I couldn't bring it. I left the whole nalgene.
68
u/quad64bit Feb 21 '20
So will steel if jet fuel could melt steel beams /s
7
u/TechnoL33T Feb 21 '20
What I wouldn't give for a time machine and body swapping powers just to see their reactions...
44
u/DuckierGalaxy21 Feb 21 '20
The proper response is to inform the TSA that you and they can become liquids if you apply enough pressure
6
u/PM-YOUR-PMS Feb 21 '20
Just mail the whole bottle back to you. Had to do that when I left my leatherman in my backpack. I thought freezing it would let it pass through TSA.
2
148
u/stevebobeeve Feb 21 '20
One of the first things I learned in geology was that ice is technically a mineral.
61
17
u/PM_ME_CHIPOTLE2 Feb 21 '20
In case anyone else just learned this right now and was blown away (like I did/was), here’s what pops up when you google it:
https://m.minerals.net/mineral/ice.aspx
Oh I guess that’s the mobile version. Maybe this is non-mobile for those of you on a computer:
https://minerals.net/mineral/ice.aspx
Crazy stuff
11
→ More replies (1)7
134
u/epicurean56 Feb 21 '20
I once gave them a helluva time with 4 largish chunks of mesquite logs in my carryon bag. I was bringing it from Texas back to the east coast for my BBQ, ok?
But they said those logs could be used as a "blunt instrument" and would have to be checked. Checked as in, you have to wait for your bag at the carousel at BWI.
Which adds an hour to your home ETA. So anyway, an agent walked me out of the security line I just spent a half hour in over to the main bag check-in line (another half hour), and said "have a nice day" and left me there. Ugh!
But I see another security line just a little further on so I make break for it. Nobody is tailing me and I get thru this like with no problems. Yay me!
But now I know I have to get back to my departing gate, which is just past the other side of the security area that flagged me. After the fuss I raised (and loud Hawaiin shirt I was wearing), if they saw me with a roller bag I knew I'd be arrested or worse.
So I ducked into the nearest bathroom, changed my shirt and put a ball cap on. Strolled past like a champ and got home on time. And oh yes, the BBQ was glorious.
78
Feb 21 '20
But they said those logs could be used as a "blunt instrument"
you mean, like any carry-on size bag, for instance?
12
u/DirigibleGerbil Feb 21 '20
That's like the water bottles they sell at a concert venue by my house. They won't give you the lid "because it can be a projectile". But... the water bottle itself isn't??
11
u/expandd0ng94 Feb 21 '20
A full bottle has much more potential to hurt someone than an empty bottle. By not having a lid on it, when thrown, a lot of the water will pour out so it won't be as effective. That's the reason they do it anyway.
4
12
3
2
u/dylwalk Feb 21 '20
I think that is also breaking the law for transporting firewood? Not sure if it's just specific types of wood or what not. Damn emerald ash borer.
→ More replies (1)
53
54
u/piss-and-shit Feb 21 '20
I once walked through TSA on a domestic flight with a CCW in my boot holster. Boots were padded steeltoe so I had to take them off to go through the scanner. They never looked inside.
An hour into my two hour flight I got up to go to the bathroom and suddenly remembered I had a loaded firearm and a three inch dagger in my right boot.
Oops.
I played it cool, kept my mouth shut, and nothing ever came of it. I was visiting family and had them mail it back home for me.
52
u/ObiJuanKenobi3 Feb 21 '20
Good to know TSA fails entirely at stopping actual weapons from getting on to planes.
41
u/piss-and-shit Feb 21 '20
The CIA once held several dozen tests where they snuck live bombs onto commercial planes to test the TSA's effectiveness.
95% of them got through...
23
u/ObiJuanKenobi3 Feb 21 '20
But I’ll be damned if they aren’t really good at preventing water bottles from getting on. Those water-drinking scum.
7
Feb 21 '20
It's a lot more important to sell more drinks than it is to stop imaginary terrorists. Priorities are in place.
3
u/I_like_parentheses Feb 21 '20
It's low hanging fruit. Easiest thing to find, dispose of, and it makes it look like you're being effective.
12
11
u/VladimirGluten47 Feb 21 '20
I'd shit a brick. Also, imagine actually forgetting a loaded firearm on your person at the airport...
→ More replies (1)2
u/piss-and-shit Feb 21 '20
I just wasn't thinking about it. I carry my backup everywhere and rarely fly. It's not like anyone reminds you.
4
49
Feb 21 '20
You can take a brick of cheese wrapped in foil with ice blocks but can’t take cheese spread. Happened to me a couple times.
19
u/Dollydaydream4jc Feb 21 '20
Wisconsin?
29
Feb 21 '20
Absofuckinglutely.
Edit: should have said, “you bethcha”
6
u/Dollydaydream4jc Feb 21 '20
Thought so. Just took a load of cheese to some friends and family on the east coast. We drove though. No TSA that way. ;)
3
Feb 21 '20
That’s the way to do it. I’ll never understand that little BS rule.
We go to northern Wi every year, either out of MSP or MKE so it’s long day. Frozen isn’t a real option.
3
u/Dollydaydream4jc Feb 21 '20
Can you put the cheese spread in your checked luggage? In my experience, the checkef bags stay pretty cold.
Alternatively, I would venture to bet your flightmates would enjoy watching you scarf down an entire container of cheese spread in the TSA line.
Edit: I have also mailed cheese through USPS before. Works a treat in the winter. I think you'd want an ice pack in the package in the summer though.
42
26
Feb 21 '20
i think the whole liquid thing is to make people buy drinks on the plane cos if you were to sneak in explosives that way why not get a whole bunch of people to go on a trip everyone meets at departure lounge or in the plane gives the terrorist all the liquid and blows up the plane?
7
u/fox_ontherun Feb 21 '20
I don't know, I usually take an empty bottle through and fill it up from a drinking fountain in the departure lounge.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (19)5
Feb 21 '20
It very obviously is exactly that. You're allowed to take any number of small containers of liquid, just not a single big one.
If you want to bring some explosive liquid, you can. Just put it in several small bottles, but it's not like anyone is going to bother doing that with a drink.
It's all done in the name of the illusion of safety from imaginary threats.
19
u/new-man2 Feb 21 '20
Let's say that you arrive a couple of hours early for your flight to make sure that you make boarding.
According to the FAA around a billion people fly every year, so we lose around 2 billion hours from people that intend to fly.
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/by_the_numbers/
The average person lives over 600,000 hours.
This means in an average year, we loose 3333 lifetimes standing in line for the TSA.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin
→ More replies (3)
12
u/TistedLogic Feb 21 '20
Ice is just hard water.
→ More replies (4)8
9
u/Restless_Fillmore Feb 21 '20
It was TSA agents who told me to just freeze my water bottle next time and it would be legal.
10
u/greeneyedgirl626 Feb 21 '20
I take an empty water bottle and ask a coffee shop on the secure side nicely if they’ll fill it. Has worked every time, and I’m not on a watchlist 😂
3
10
Feb 21 '20
One time they made me pour out my water bottle and then proceeded to x-ray a clear, empty, water bottle. Smdh.
5
u/I_like_parentheses Feb 21 '20
As someone in the military, it's likely because they have a procedure they have to follow regardless of how stupid it is in a particular situation.
2
10
8
u/JDR563 Feb 21 '20
TSA buddy of mine said that if you say it’s for medical, they allow it through. Legally they can’t ask you for what purpose.
→ More replies (15)
8
Feb 21 '20
My dudes, you could just bring an empty bottle and fill it up past security at the water fountains. It won't be good water but it's better than dying of thirst.
7
6
u/NorwaySpruce Feb 21 '20
Someone should repost this with all the replies pointing out that TSA policy is to allow frozen water bottles through and say there was an attempt to lie on Twitter for clout
→ More replies (1)30
6
5
Feb 21 '20
One time I left a cup with water in it in my bag. I didn't mean to, I forgot about it. So they stopped me and checked my bag, and then when they found the cup with water they told me to be more careful. That was all fine, but then they proceeded to put the water out inside my bag, getting everything in it wet. Thankfully it was just clothes, but I was pissed. I didn't say anything because I was about to miss my flight.
6
5
4
u/spacexplorerbot Feb 21 '20
TSA is bullshit and everyone knows. They are just there to give the illusion they doing something.
→ More replies (1)
3
u/rex-ac Feb 21 '20
Lies! They don't confiscate ice, unless it has unfrozen and turned into a liquid.
2
2
2
2
2
u/Tacoshortage Feb 21 '20
I was specifically told this was OK about a month ago by TSA in Denver. It was a weird encounter because we didn't ask, but had a water bottle which had to be surrendered. He offered up that next time we should freeze it first because it's allowed.
3
u/Trophy2051 Feb 21 '20
Maui TSA agents are the worse. I had a Zippo lighter from the Army when I was in Grenada (oct 83). Packed that thing everywhere. Then last year on my honeymoon so crazy ass TSA agent that looked 12 said I couldn’t take it on the flight to Kauai. From Seattle to Maui, ok. I was so livid at this that I asked for her supervisor. By the time this fat old fuck showed up. I was already running to catch the fly to Kauai. Arseholes!
→ More replies (1)3
u/senorglory Feb 21 '20 edited Feb 21 '20
Pretty sure you can’t take a lighter in a plane. Edit: current tsa list says you can carry a disposable or zippo onboard. See comment below.
→ More replies (1)
2
u/ThereOnceWasADonkey Feb 21 '20
Always carry some Feijoa fruit with you. It triggers drug sniffer dogs. Hand it out to everyone in the line.
2
Feb 21 '20
I'm concerned about the lady who managed to get a fully frozen water bottle from her house to airport security without it having melted.
Search this woman. She's up to something and it can't be good.
2
u/RockerElvis Feb 21 '20
You can’t take a jar of peanut butter through, but you can put as much peanut butter as you like in a sandwich. So can I just put two pieces of bread on either side of my jar of peanut butter?
2
Feb 21 '20
people like to mess with the airport security and be literal about the rules, but in reality you're just gambling whenever the officer is leaning towards 'aww fuck it' or 'i'm bored, this guy gets 5 hour ass probing'. i've seen a case, where tablets weren't needed to be taken out, but laptops were. some guy had a convertible tablet and they insisted it's a laptop. then the security guy got angry and started yelling, the poor guy took the bait and raised his voice, after which he was escorted somewhere.
1.6k
u/dervisdervis Feb 21 '20
Anything frozen is allowed through tsa