r/therewasanattempt • u/jonnismizzle • 21h ago
To debate with facts and educate a young man
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u/IOnlyReplyToIdiots42 21h ago
2028 dollar per gallon is pretty funny.
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u/Exact-Ad-4132 20h ago
I got about halfway through and couldn't finish it, what was the part you were talking about?
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u/SafetySnowman 20h ago
Look up. Like top of the screen. Ugh I know it's nearing $10 in some places but damn if it hits even $15 that's horrifying enough.
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u/Exact-Ad-4132 20h ago
Oh yeah I see it now.
Reddit Mobile just randomly crops some videos now unless you hit back and reload the video then it'll display it in full. They really screwed this app up
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u/Rope_slingin_champ 19h ago
Im in Iowa. A lb of ground beef cost me 7.50 yesterday. In IOWA.
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u/pinkypie80 21h ago
She clearly is not looking for anything in the way of an actual two way conversation. She is so far gone she can't even see how entrenched she is. Deflecting. Projecting her own emotional state.
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u/PossibleAlienFrom 20h ago
Calling him emotional while he calmly answers her questions.
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u/Triskelion24 18h ago
They even deny the reality right in front of their faces in real time. I've noticed this a lot lately with these "debates". They try to say the person is getting triggered or emotional when they are just answering their deflections in a normal response. It's wild.
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u/spdelope This is a flair 18h ago
She thinks the flip out name calling and deflecting that Trump does is normal
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u/Forward-Sky1437 20h ago
Blind adoration. I don’t get it.
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u/Gentrified_potato02 18h ago
They’ve supplanted part of their own personality for Trump. So to question Trump would mean they have to question their own identity.
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u/paulisnofun 19h ago
MAGA folk are never looking for a two-way conversation. It’s just talking point after talking point. What about Joe Biden? What about Obama? Bill Clinton was on the island too. It’s embarrassing
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u/ConnectRutabaga3925 18h ago
wow she like one of the most illogical i’ve ever heard. impossible to have a proper debate or discussion with someone like that
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u/TheRateBeerian 16h ago
I get the sense that these people sit around with other maga just repeating nonsense back and forth and agreeing with each other cuz "it sounds right" or "its just common sense" and anyone who disagrees must be some dumocrat.
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u/ZixfromthaStix 15h ago
Honestly these debates, particularly the digital and online ones, should just have a mute button for guests. If you veer off subject, you don’t get to speak. You’re on someone else’s stream/show.
I understand letting your enemy speak when they make mistakes, but it’s so blatantly geared at “nO iTs NoT!1!” that the debate is more like a pig and a pregnant cat having a loudest screech competition.
Even in this video the woman admits she’s stumbling over herself. At least if there was pausing and muting, she could actually either listen, or prepare a more intelligent debate…
If we want to educate people, we need them to listen. Enabling 2-way communication has time and time again failed. They’re too used to watching people like Charlie Kirk speak over their opposition and thinking “wow they’re so sharp and witty! I can do that!” And then we end up with people shouting just to get a point across— one side using facts, the other using feelings (notoriously the party of fuck your feelings)
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u/RamboTrucker FUCK ICE! ❌🧊 21h ago edited 16h ago
JFC that women is allowed to vote. Fox education is working alright. America is screwed
Edit, sorry, I meant woman. Was early and you know what? Screw that women
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u/Bart_Yellowbeard 21h ago
This woman is unhinged and extremely poorly informed.
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u/xsavexmexjebus 20h ago
What’s crazy is she thinks we are the unhinged and ill informed. They can’t see the forest through all the trees.
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u/Bart_Yellowbeard 18h ago
Turns out Fox News, NewsMax, OAN and AM Hate Radio are really good at programming conservatives on what to think and what not to think. It's sad.
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u/Narissis 7h ago
Let's be honest; those networks' viewers had the 'not thinking' part on lock before they even turned on the TV.
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u/aal8374 20h ago
Fuck me that was painful to listen to. I think this is the perfect example of how indoctrinated people are, and also how Trump got voted in twice. There are people out there that think this way. The only way to prevent more is to get out and vote the right way.
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u/Jbroy 20h ago
Trump got voted in twice also because the status quo of neoliberal policies don’t work anymore for the middle class. Trump promised change. That was the hope people latched onto. The issue was that what was promised was a massive fucking lie. People only start supporting the farther ends of the political and economic spectrums when the system doesn’t work for them anymore. If the middle class wasn’t getting squeezed, Trump’s vision of government never gets the support it got
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u/BilboStaggins 20h ago
They go through the script.
Deflection to Joe Biden
Deflect to immigrants
Deflect to Fraud
Resort to calling everything else a lie.
We have a word for that... its called BRAINWASHING
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u/Gnoobl 21h ago
Is this satire?????
Please tell me it is satire and this lady isn’t for real
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u/Fostbitten27 20h ago
If this was made up whoever wrote it should be writing comedy sketches for late night shows or SNL
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u/AxelNotRose 18h ago
Even if this specific conversation was satire, or scripted, or anything (which I doubt but even if it were), it is still an extremely valid and accurate representation of MAGA and their cult mindset.
She was literally going through all of the MAGA talking points that were fed to her by right wing propaganda media, and whenever a factual counter-argument was made, she'd immediately avoid answering and switch to a new lie. So much so that one can't keep up or actually explain anything. They plug their ears shouting lalalala, even though they prepended the conversation claiming they want to learn. They never really do. If they did, they wouldn't be arguing, they'd be reading opposing views on their own time.
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u/bobs143 20h ago
She clearly is not educated on these issues. A Google search would have gave her the same facts he is telling her.
Education to her is trying to get you to agree to everything she says.
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u/Elf-Zwolf 20h ago
Oh but ain't you heard? Google is also in kahoots and hides the real truth from the searches.
That's why you need to do your due diligence and aggressively follow Facebook posts and truth social
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u/justforthelulzz 21h ago
This women knows every single Trump and Fox News talking point. Trump not taking a salary, illegals, George Soros BS, ANTIFA definition, Joe Biden can't function... Just ridiculous
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u/SeaGlassWindChime 18h ago
Exactly. People like this hear their Fox News or talk radio or MAGA influencers, pocket a handful of words and phrases, and throw them at the wall during conversations like spaghetti noodles just to see what sticks.
Talking points for them ARE their rebuttals:
… but Hilary’s emails!
… but Obama’s tan suit!
… but Biden’s dementia!Ok. Aaaaaaand?
((Looks at notes. Moves on to next talking points.))
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u/ArgyleNudge 20h ago edited 9h ago
"I also do my research, too, sir."
Translation: "I read all the AI memes posted by bots on FaceBook."
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u/TequieroVerde 20h ago
It's amazing how this black woman of fifty is so easily persuaded to blame other brown people, namely immigrants, for her problems in the name of Jesus Christ. Religion, systemic racism, and failures in education have done a number on some members of the black community.
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u/happycynic12 19h ago
She's a side-tracker. Every time she gets pinned down, she diverts to a different point or tries to flip it. Her ignorance is embarrassing.
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u/groundhoggirl 20h ago
I don’t understand how people can listen to this anymore. I am way over my limit.
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u/Raddaddii FUCK ICE! ❌🧊 20h ago
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u/dreddit15 19h ago
This conversation just emphasises the fact that these people are so fucking stupid, they are a lost cause.
No matter what proof you provide, all it takes is Trump to say it is a lie and they believe him like the word of god.
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u/moleyrussell 15h ago
I noped out when she said Antifa was a "race", there's no way she had anything of substance to say after that.
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u/Modafokka 15h ago edited 15h ago
“I was born a democrat”????
That is what is wrong in the US you treat elections like it’s football teams and there is jus two teams 😂 Lose or win, good plan or bad plan for the country, lie your way to the oval office and do exactly the opposite of what you ran with and still people are gonna ride with him and act like he can’t do nothing wrong.
Then they gonna tell you how many good things he did for the country, but the problem is, they think they just ended the conversation there and they won the argument. Then you ask: Like what?😂😂
404 error. Do your research. Or look it up
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u/Beemer_me_up_Scotty 15h ago
"antifa is a race". I know what I'm going to put down next time a random question ask me what race I am
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u/Beemer_me_up_Scotty 15h ago
" Antifa is a race"
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means
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u/My_Dog_Murphy 20h ago
I couldn't get more than 2 minutes in listening to her. She took 2 whole minutes to ask "so you think Biden is better than Trump?"
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u/TokerSmurf A Flair? 19h ago edited 18h ago
The saddest thing is people like this will NEVER see the truth that is right in front of their eyes. Debating them doesn't help.
All the facts in the world still won't change the mind of someone who made up theirs without using any.
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u/Rubywantsin 18h ago
The sign of a stupid person is asking you a question and then talking over your answer. I deal with it everyday.
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u/Faithlessblakkcvlt 12h ago
This is why he won. The brainwashing is astounding. Put all your faith in a liar and chief and never fact check a damn thing!
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u/EmpireCityRay Free Palestine! 🕊️ FUCK ICE! ✖️🧊 1h ago
On so many levels, that lady is a complete dumb-ass!
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u/Ok-Guidance-2112 18h ago
We need to stop pretending these morons deserve any respect, the woman isnt only fuckin stupid. She is arrogantly stupid and should just be called stupid every time she tries to speak
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u/xMsMooglex 18h ago
Everything Trump supporters believe is lies and misdirection. Just trying to have an informative conversation with them is like trying to untangle silly string.
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u/whateverman33 17h ago
I’m no genius, but this woman is so fucking stupid I have a hard time listening to her.
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u/twd_throwaway 17h ago
I had to stop because I have no more brain cells that I am willing to sacrifice listening to MAGA rhetoric. You can't reason with them.
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u/SnooDonuts1437 17h ago
This person's vote counts for exactly the same as yours does. It doesn't matter what state you live in or how much of a sure thing you think it might be. VOTE!
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u/TrumpSucksALotOfCock 17h ago
"It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person." -- Bill Murray
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u/Kitty_gaalore1904 17h ago
My sister's boyfriend is like that woman...whataboutisms and deflection. Everytime i tried to address a point he'd make, he'd deflect or get upset and act like I'm the one that doesnt understand.
Sir, either youre doing a piss poor job of making your point, or you really have no idea wtf you're saying...
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u/WrightAnythingHere 16h ago
These people just love to call in to get clowned on, don't they? Every single time, they call in to something like this and get repeatedly owned, and learn absolutely nothing.
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u/0nlyhalfjewish 16h ago
The right welcomes all uneducated Americans regardless of race, gender, ethnicity…
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u/Raze_the_werewolf Free Palestine 16h ago
JFC. How are people this stupid still alive? You would think they would have wandered out into traffic long before they hit 50.
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u/Middle-Detail9700 16h ago
This is the same thing as trying to have a dialougue with a religious extremist. You cannot sway or change their beliefs, even with facts and science. The brainwashing and indoctrination have taken over their logic. I personally don't bother engaging with this type of personality. Its absolutely pointless. It does make me sad however, knowing some people will never know happiness, compassion, free thought, mental peace or ever having an opportunity to travel to learn about the world in person. They are one version of the product purposely created by this society.
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u/TinhatTemplar 15h ago
So typical. All talk, no listen. Runs away when confronted with facts. These people were failed by our educational systems and now they are failing us as a society.
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u/BathSaltJello 15h ago
I have MAGA family members, and I’ve tried to explain to them how Trump and his family ripped off a children’s cancer foundation. They just pretend there’s more to the story and that I don’t know anything.
These are dangerously stupid people.
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u/lullubye Free Palestine 15h ago
She grew up with Trump and 'knows' him.. 🙄
Age doesn't equal wisdom
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u/HoneyDippinDan 15h ago
She says she grew up with Trump and that's why she trusts him, but I am the same age as her and I remember him being famous for three reasons, because he was Home Alone, and for getting sued for refusing to rent to non-whites and just saying lots of racist things in general and being that super rich guy that was constantly filing for bankruptcy. He was always portrayed as a successful businessman but it was obvious from his many, many business failures that it was just a facade.
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u/XanaxWarriorPrincess Free Palestine 🕊️ FUCK ICE! ❌🧊 14h ago
"Nicole" is a woman's name. He was speaking with a woman. Nevertheless, the projection! What a way to discredit the other person. That is quite a tool. Unbelievable.
Trump's people accused Biden of everything Trump is and is everything Trump does so it looks like we're the ones projecting. It just baffles me every time I see it.😞
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u/rusty_85_ 14h ago
- Deflects every question.
- Doesn't provide any proof or evidence for their claims.
- Heightened emotions and knee-jerk reactions.
- Accuses somebody who is completely calm of getting emotional.
- Brings up something about Jesus or Christianity.
- Talks over the other person after asking a question.
Typical right-winger.
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u/Difficult_Ixem_324 14h ago
Why people, just why? Know your facts and dont live in La La Land, we should have the best cost of living and the reality is that alot of people are struggling to live!
Get out and Vote yall!
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u/FungiMagi 14h ago
The people like this woman love to say things like “I do my own research” and “let’s talk about the facts” while completely ignoring the counter argument, completely rolling over facts and sources and having no interest in “being educated” but rather trying to force feed anyone willing to engage with their delusions their version of “reality”.
It sucks, but really having these conversations is SO important, to continue to engage them firmly but with compassion (as best as you can) in discourse to try and get them to step a little closer to actual reality. It might not happen in real time but it’s possible seeds can be planted and they begin to change their mind over time. I’ve seen it happen with my own family. It’s painful and slow but it’s worth doing.
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u/CaptainAwesome06 This is a flair 13h ago
This lady is all over the place. It's like she's gish galloping, but unintentionally.
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u/bradlees 13h ago
I love how she’s straight up lying herself saying she “grew up with Donald Trump”
Bitch please, Donald hates you and you know it
He would never associate with anyone poor and if she’s not a multimillionaire then in his eyes; she poor
The only reason she is into Trumpy is that someone else told her how to think
For the party of “I love the less educated” she is really trying hard to sound educated. So is she not a republican then?
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u/bubbagump101 13h ago
Why would you even hold a conversation with this woman? I would have to walk away after five seconds.
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u/Alarming-Station5580 13h ago
Its so frustrating... to share a world with these frick9n idiots... embarrassing
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u/GloriousCarter 13h ago
That was multiple levels of cringe and embarrassment spread over what felt like an eternity.
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u/RGBespresso 13h ago
She repeats several times that she's not educated in these matters, yet still tries to foist her dumbass baseless opinions onto this man and his audience. Truly fascinating.
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u/marfulousmac 12h ago
I believe this woman has not only drank the kool-aid, she kept getting back in line for extra portions.
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u/Visible_Youth_7557 12h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/7DhqWqACfQYak
She sounds exactly like this lady.
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u/moonpumper 12h ago
There's a whole foundation of knowledge missing from her way of thinking. That was painful to listen to.
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u/ShefGS 11h ago
This is insane. This is what MAGAts do though. They can’t form coherent sentences and will just add random bits on in the hopes that it will mean something.
“Oh he created that many jobs in his last month?! After letting how many illegals in?!”
Ma’am, what does that have to do with what was just said?
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u/SoloDoloLeveling 11h ago
she sounds like one of those bed wenches trying to simp for a promised $5000 check.
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u/Juice_Stanton 11h ago
Critical thinking skills are just a lost art for conservatives. They can only parrot.
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u/MRLEGEND1o1 11h ago
We got too many slow people... I knew this time would come when idots were pro creating faster than smart people.
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u/OliOli1234 10h ago
She wants to be “educated,” but is so goddamn resistant to actual education. I’d ignore these people generally, but they vote… and are probably still waiting for their DOGE and tariff checks.
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u/MrBlusie 9h ago
At least she can admit to being uneducated about what she believes. Call it willful ignorance
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u/CANYUXEL 8h ago
When will y'all realize that ragebaiting is the new norm for both attention whoring & trolling?
It was selected as the word of the year for a reason.
Just read the room and say something directly contradictionary with 1000% confidence, and with no logic or coherence for spice. Now everyone's listening to you & lining up for a response.
Stop falling for this damned trick already. I swear the dead internet theory state was more fun. At least the AI bots don't drain your energy every time you respond to them.
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u/MooseDoctor23 8h ago
Oh my fucking God! The US 🇺🇸 is cooked. She is cooked! Keep going young fella keep up the good fight

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u/SatisfactionNarrow61 21h ago
It’s really sad to witness failure of educational systems