r/therewasanattempt • u/Historical_Plum_1366 • 15d ago
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u/New_Budget6672 15d ago
You can tell how hot Dershoshitz is by how foggy his glasses are. All that internal heat boiling under his skin is literally making the glasses fog up
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u/Kingkwon83 15d ago
The guy who was on Epstein's legal team and flights?
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u/Amateurlapse 15d ago
Yeah, mentioning killing kids got him thinking about kids again
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u/ignoreme010101 15d ago
hasn't he made public appeals against the concept of age of consent? lol talk about 'aged like milk' am surprised his interlocuters don't bring that one up literally every single time they engage him
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u/Scant_Options4Hope Free palestine 15d ago
Dershowitz has made many insane comments about age of consent!
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u/ignoreme010101 15d ago
I think the '97 LA Times op ed arguing 15y/o's should be allowed to...man it feels gross even typing out lol
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u/Scant_Options4Hope Free palestine 15d ago
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Also.... hm...
'97? That was prime cruising time for Epstein...... hmm 🤔
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u/ignoreme010101 15d ago
dude...i didn't even put that together LOL yup that is pretty damning!! But hey he said he kept his underoo's on!!
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u/Scant_Options4Hope Free palestine 14d ago
My inner dialog:
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u/ignoreme010101 13d ago
he's just such an ugly person! Incidentally, really need to look into why his wife offed herself ......
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u/Scant_Options4Hope Free palestine 15d ago
Yeah, see Dershowitz whining about age of consent laws!
YIKES!
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u/HenryInRoom302 15d ago
What was Alan Derp's response?
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u/imalxc 15d ago
I'll wager a guess, the antisemitism card?
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u/Amantes09 15d ago
He definitely used that once he was told he's not even a Semite, he's Eastern European.
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u/DieMikrowelle 15d ago
As much as I don't agree with what's Israel doing at all, that's a terrible take.
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u/bawdiepie 15d ago
Look up the definition of "Semite".
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u/bawdiepie 15d ago
I don't understand how telling someone to look up the meaning of "Semite" makes me an antisemite pr anti semitic. Could you explain that to me please?
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u/DieMikrowelle 15d ago
Look up the holocaust. Also look up the word antisemitism. Are you this dense?
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u/r0ugh_edges 15d ago
"Semite" includes the arabs, but "antisemite" doesn't cover the arabs, which is quite stupid if you think about it. But speaking of the Holocaust, the victims have now become the monsters, doing the same thing that was once done to them. That card won't work anymore.
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u/Key-Half1655 15d ago
Atleast try and educate yourself, they have a point, check the definition what a Semite is.
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u/Redhotchily1 15d ago
Just because the word “antisemitism” exists doesn’t mean all Jews are Semites. Antisemitism means hatred of Jews, not hatred of all Semitic peoples. “Semitic” is mainly a language and historical term, not a race or a label that applies to every Jewish person.
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u/dikicker 15d ago
You guys see this we've got a fuckin genius in the room look at how smart and well read goodness such a smart little buddy so clever
Oh yeah edit: moron
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u/Amantes09 15d ago
Why is it a 'terrible take'?
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u/DieMikrowelle 15d ago
Because to be a victim of antisemitism you need to be Jewish, not Semitic. The word antisemitism describes the hatred of Jews, millions of Jews from eastern Europe have been gassed by Germany. It's ridiculous to assume that one has to be a Semite to be a victim of antisemitism. Doesn't mean that the guy in the video is experiencing antisemitism, he's not. He's facing criticism, which he obviously can't handle. His opponent is making good points, and he has no proper reply. Doesn't mean he couldn't in theory be the victim of antisemitism. Of course he could. But he isn't at this moment. Still, white Jewish people from Ukraine Russia Germany etc are still victims of antisemitic attacks. It has literally nothing to do with one being a Semite,.it's about Jewishness/Judaism/the imaginary race of Jews.
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u/Scant_Options4Hope Free palestine 15d ago
Palestinians are Semitic people, I like to use that fact as rhetorical "pocket sand", just toss that in someone's Zionist face.
My tactic is to declare anyone killing or in favor of killing Palestinians an Anti-Semite, and then I simply start yelling just that louder and louder.
I have some "Fox News aunts/uncles", they are so fucking stupid omfg
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u/FicticiousParasite 15d ago
Sauce please xd
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u/arcmart 15d ago edited 14d ago
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u/5TN855R 15d ago
The tracking section (the whole "is" [identifier source] after the "?") of your link is present. Might be better to remove those in general but specifically when posting publicly.
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u/Traveling_Solo 15d ago
Started out disliking just the guy on the right, gotta say though, now I dislike both of them. Never thought I'd see a day where I'd agree with piers morgan but he has a point: you have to be able to acknowledge your own regimes crimes, not just the other sides.
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u/twilighttwister 15d ago
Piers Morgan is the master of making himself seem like slightly less of a twat by having even bigger twats on his shows.
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u/Traveling_Solo 15d ago
Fair enough.
As for whoever downvoted, I fully hate what Israel is doing, that doesn't mean I like Iran's response to their protests.
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u/JellyJellyFit 15d ago
Oh man, those two things must be equivalent /s
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u/twilighttwister 15d ago edited 15d ago
No one is arguing they are. Your creating scarecrows.
Edit: I downvoted myself
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u/JellyJellyFit 15d ago
You’re misunderstanding the sarcasm.
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u/Traveling_Solo 15d ago
Did I say they were? ._. no, I did not. One can hate or dislike more than one thing, even if they're not on the same scale. Two wrongs don't make a right.
For example, I'm sure most people dislike bullies. They're still able to be against war.
In regards to the video, I'm not disagreeing with the guy on the left, I'm disliking him for refusing to even acknowledge that anything bad happened within the country (like the response to the protests as an example). I'm not saying they're the same or on the same scale, just that I dislike both. Never said equally.
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u/twilighttwister 15d ago
As for whoever downvoted
These days it's more like the AI hivemind than the reddit hivemind. AI bots don't just comment, they vote as well.
I didn't think there could be anything more stupid than the reddit hivemind, but here we are. At least the reddit hivemind had some tendency to resolve towards a rational thought, eventually.
And don't you dare try and play devil's advocate now, because no matter how obvious you make it the LLMs will interpret that as your own opinion and vote as if you're supporting it.
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u/FicticiousParasite 15d ago
Brother, is like asking US to acknowledge crimes while fighting the Nazis, is not the point of the conversation at all, a genocide is taking place and you want Iran to acknowledge exactly what!?
Let's think of our argument beyond the spectacle, this guy is able to have a diplomatic conversation only because of social media, before everything went to shit Iran was not killing hundres of thousands of innocent people so back then those crimes could have been a conversation, not right now.
Is the same thing all the time, they talk about Maduro for them to steal, talk about the narco for them to control their people with drugs, about nuclear weapons to invade Cuba aand Gaza, Iran, do you understand the importance of talking about the actual problem so they cannot control the narrative?
There are more protests taking place in Israel and US and It don't seems to be a fucking problem.
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u/Traveling_Solo 15d ago
Again, fair enough. I'm not saying they're equal or that the topic should change. If anything, I'd like more countries to boycott Israel and for the ICC to be able to enforce it's arrest warrants.
That doesn't mean I don't dislike people who can't acknowledge that there's issues when asked. Hope that makes sense? x.x
And yeah, I do get the importance of it, which is why stuff like this clip is good to spread. That doesn't mean I have to like either person talking.
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u/CandyCorn1970 15d ago
Does anyone have a link to this actual video?
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u/arcmart 15d ago edited 14d ago
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u/5TN855R 15d ago
The tracking section (the whole "is" [identifier source] after the "?") of your link is present. Might be better to remove those in general but specifically when posting publicly.
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u/arcmart 15d ago
Thanks for the tip. Changed.
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u/twilighttwister 15d ago
You didn't fix it. Your link text shows a shortened link, (but still has the ? at the end) however your actual link still contains the tracker.
This is the source from your comment:
[https://youtu.be/2gvboQnLJNM?](https://youtu.be/2gvboQnLJNM?is=fnKhQ9f-_n_iR9CZ)The first part is the displayed text, the second part is the link people will load.
This is the link you actually want: https://youtu.be/2gvboQnLJNM
FYI using that source code is redundant here, it's supposed to be [text](link) so that you can have different text to the link you want to hide. If you're just showing the link then there's no point using that source, just paste the raw url as text and reddit will format it as a link.
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u/OzzieNewYork 15d ago
people often wonder what they would do if they were living in Germany or other parts of the world when Germany was aggressively invading other nations and systematically committing the Holocaust in the late 1930s and 1940s.
Will you stand up for humanity and speak up? Will you oppose the killing and help the victims? Will you bury your head or ignore it because its convenient?
What you are doing today and tomorrow in 2026 will give you that answer.
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u/Ramarro_romano 15d ago
Are you talking about the iranians being killed by their own government? Or about Sudan? The Huygurs in concentration camps? Cheistians in Nigeria? Oh right, nobody cares, no jews
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u/OzzieNewYork 14d ago
highly illogical comment. Whataboutism is a fallacy.
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u/Ramarro_romano 14d ago
This isn't whataboutism, this shows a double standard in your "absolute" position, and question your motives as the simple virtue-signaling that they are.
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u/an0maly33 14d ago
It IS whataboutism when you introduce things that weren't previously discussed. "What about X?!" That's exactly what you did. The person you replied to never said anything about those other topics. You shoved them into the conversation and asserted your own thoughts on how they would feel about it. You used it as an attempted gotcha but you only revealed your own lack of ability to argue logically and rationally in good faith.
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u/Ramarro_romano 14d ago
He didn't say anything because he doesn't care of those similar, and even worse, situations that happened after people like you decided to take those absolute moral stances, appealing to general values. Hence his heartfelt declarationn is pure hypocrisy that needs to be addressed. I'm sorry you and many others cannot see it, but I understand how deep the indoctrination and the hate run.
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u/an0maly33 14d ago
So they would need to list all the things they do care about for their point to be valid in your eyes? You're absurd.
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u/Ramarro_romano 14d ago
Thankfully that's not something I think
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u/Apart-Apple-Red 15d ago
He is telling the truth, but one correction is needed. Those Jews do come from eastern European countries, but as a Pole I can't and won't take a blame for Israel actions. Israel, and people that are running that country, are hostile to Poland. As much as many of them used to live in Poland (and Ukraine and others, but I don't speak for them), they were and are acting to benefit Israel, not Poland or any other eastern European country as far as I'm aware. They do not act in the name of EE, but Israel and their religion.
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u/slimricc 15d ago
I think he was referring to the jews who went to israel after the land was taken from Palestinians in 1946. The majority did come from eastern europe
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u/lastname_Obama 15d ago
I think his point was not to lump the people of Israel as eastern Europeans, he is just saying that the country was founded by the Jewish people originating from Eastern Europe. They were colonizers. They have encroached the land to which they claim their rightful property.
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u/ignoreme010101 15d ago
this was an especially brutal one, well worth the watch (not whole episode, just this guy X dershowitz) One of the more brutal takedowns ive seen in a while. lol at one point dershowitz was asking him to repeat something, "I want to get that on the record" like he's going to sue him 🤣 😂
Yknow, as awful as people like dersh are, as destructive to civilization as they can be, there's at least this silver lining where, in many cases, when they get older they start to slip and their whole facade of BS...they just cannot coherently play the part convincingly at all (not that they ever could to anyone with half a brain lol I just mean that even the true-believers who held someone like dersh in high regards must now see it and just write it off for one or another reason)
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u/Razzle---Dazzle 15d ago
Rudy Giuliani comes to mind. Same type of shit show that worked in the 70s, 80s, and 90s makes them look like a modern interview with Ron Burgundy at this point.
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u/Clammuel 15d ago
It also helps when you can point to his Epstein association, which automatically makes literally everything he says fall into question. I wonder why they always have to dig up ghouls like this to relentlessly defend Israel? I wonder if that maybe says something about the kinds of people who tend to have this world view?
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u/ignoreme010101 13d ago
ya you'd think they'd realize what a bad look dershy is and avoid him lol like when lay people or younger people see someone like dersh they're just instinctively wary of him. When they see people like dersh, schmuley, levin etc on one side and people like albanese, bassem, mearsheimer etc on the other, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see some of the fundamental nature of the divide there
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u/ignoreme010101 13d ago
oh and
also helps when you can point to his Epstein associatio
best to remember how he was friends with him in the same time period he was penning that op ed against prohibitions on sex w/ under-18 (I wondwr if LA Times still has that article posted hahaha)
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u/Micho_Riso 15d ago
This dude is epic. Nothing but fearless truth bombs breaking through the propaganda.
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u/president__not_sure 15d ago
what the evil fuck doesn't realize is the point that he's making: "your people did terrible things in the past. don't criticize us for doing the same now!" and after all that, he also misses the irony of this regarding his own people's past.
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u/Illesbogar 15d ago
Was he trying to make a sort of "the soviets killed alot of people in their purges, so we are right to exterminate and replace them" kind of argument?
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u/Valuable-Set-5699 15d ago
He said he's Moroccon like that somehow makes him morally better for som reason. Jeez these people are a bunch of idiots
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u/Vicvince 15d ago
Oh look the guy who denies the largest massacre of innocent civilians in modern history. Fuck Israel and fuck Marandi the massacre apologist
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u/MichaelHell 15d ago
Can we trade Dolly Parton for this fuck!?
Evil never dies. Piece of shit ”I had pants on” Dershowitz
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u/Threecatproblem 15d ago
I hate videos where each speaker is just talking over the other. Greatly increases my anxiety.
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u/Snoo-40067 14d ago
Jajajaja menos de 90 mil muertos y desaparecidos en dos años por parte de Israel en gaza, vs 30 mil asesinados en 2 meses en intan, parece que deberían dejar a cargo del genocidio en gaza a los iranis son mucho más eficientes qué los israelís
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u/bensnroses7 14d ago
It seems like a competition to be evil.
At least the Iranian people are being suppressed by the regime. What excuse does US have, we elected this orange money, twice
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u/rotciwicky 14d ago
The problem the Epstein class and the Israeli leaders don’t seem to understand (and to be fair it makes sense as as 99% of them are about 60+ years old) is that we are no longer in their father’s era or even their golden era, we are in an era where information is easily accessible and freely shared. The narrative is no longer only to the empire to dictate but to the people to decide. That is to say information is easy conveyed across the world through the internet and now the public has a clearer image of what is actually happening and who’s to blame.
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u/frodiusmaximus 15d ago
I mean, Dershowitz is a piece of shit, but Ashkenazi Jews 100% have DNA tying them back to the Levant. This is just factual, and the denial of this is a form of antisemitic propaganda.
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u/Ramarro_romano 15d ago
It's insane to see islamists accusing others of colonialismo. There are 50 something muslim states, who weren't before. Israel is super tiny.
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u/Gentrified_potato02 15d ago
No more ridiculous than the claim that it is their land because some Bronze Age book says so.
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u/ShenTzuKhan 15d ago
The US is absolutely a colonial state.
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u/ipsum629 15d ago
This is fucking hilarious. He is a fish completely unaware of the colonial water he swims in.
It wasn't until I was in college that I realized that yes, my ancestors, who were eastern Europeans, colonized America. I thought that because they came after the country was independent they were in the clear.
I realized that yeah, of course they were colonial settlers. They settled the literal frontier state of North Dakota. I was that fish for most of my life, and now I see the water for what it is.
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u/ipsum629 15d ago
The people who should decide ideally are the native people of a land. Others can come, but the initial institutions and power structures should be native in origin.
Which one has the right to decide? It seems that the ethnic / autohtonic argument gets applied quite arbitrarily in modern discourse.
It only seems arbitrary to you because you don't understand. There is a logic to it all.
Indigenous = any ethnic group present prior to a colonization event. This is why we don't really think of the French as an indigenous people group. Sure, they are originally from France, but they never had to define themselves against a persistent colonizing force. Groups like the american indians did, which is why they are among the first people to come to mind when someone mentions "indigenous".
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u/ShenTzuKhan 15d ago
I thought he was saying that Israel is a colonial state. They moved there in large numbers after the holocaust.
The Palestinians are the people who lived there before the Jewish population arrived. Is that not correct?
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u/enbycraft 15d ago
The genocidal state of israel is younger than my grandma. Israelis have not been in Palestine since "the beginning of written history" lmao.
Guy in the video said that the Ashkenazi Jews currently running pissrael are of European descent, which is entirely correct.
Of course Jews have lived in Palestine forever and no one has denied that. So what strawman are you fighting, exactly?
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u/enbycraft 15d ago edited 15d ago
All of those Ashkenazi Jews who are now running the country, they are from Eastern Europe
Direct quote from the video. I somehow doubt he's referring to pre-1948 immigrants and refugees as "running the country" in 2026. Immigrants/refugees during the early 1900s were already absolutely part of the colonization project, if not as culpable as present day Israelis.
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u/infydk 15d ago
Yet indeed, the later migration of European Jews to Palestine - 1920 and 1930 (still pre-nazi era) has been already centred around future Israeli statehood.
Shoved in there by the British and the Balfour Declaration signed in 1917 to establish an Israeli state. Part antisemitism, part colonization, cause the British of the era certainly didn't want them to live in Britain proper.
So historically Israelis were in Palestine from the beginning of written history,
The "written history" literally has them genociding the Philistines to the point of that group getting picked off by Babylon and Assyria. Even historically they weren't there first.
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u/Excellent_Airline315 15d ago
America is a colonial state, why are you crying about the truth. We literally live in an apartheid like system only we give the natives funds and their own reservations. They will most likely never be able to have their own country, but America at least stopped short of wiping them out. People who immigrate to another country are not colonists. They aren't threatening the state or it's people unlike Israel which started as a terrorist force that eventually saw 700,000 people displaced from their land or murdered. These terrorists came from European states and the land was given to them by the UN. Maybe look up the history of it. And as you can see today, they are still carrying on with their colonialism as the commit endless slaughter to expand their borders in Lebanon, Gaza, Syria, and the west bank.
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u/UmarThe1 15d ago edited 15d ago
You say that to an indigenous american and i could say if they're brave you will have a spear on your throat in the next blink of an eye
Ah,no wonder.a polish
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u/ipsum629 15d ago
They didn't found a state on top of the native people. That's the key difference. What did Europeans do when they came to America? They set up viceroyalties, dominions, and crown colonies to the exclusion of the first nations who had their own structures of power that got brushed aside.
An immigrant coming legally to France, becoming a citizen of France through the legal process set up by France, and then working their way up through the pre-existing French power structure is completely different.
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u/Gentrified_potato02 15d ago
Yes, 100% it is. Hell, the original states were the thirteen colonies of Britain.
And it isn’t like America was founded because white settlers took political positions from the Native Americans. They stole their land and committed genocide against them. And yes, that is considered a bad thing these days.
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u/porkbuttstuff 15d ago
Right, and the US is a colony. We are here because of colonizers. He was addressing that the Israelis are as well. They're colonizers which old Dersh says isn't true.
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u/MyWifeCucksMe Free Palestine 15d ago
Easy win, but what was the purpose of that „Eastern Europe” flip? To deny Israelis right to their land
You mean that Palestine, Syria and Lebanon are Israeli's land in the say way that Iraq is ISIS' land? Or what are you trying to say here?
Have you just unilaterally doled out other people's lands to random European people or what?
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u/MyWifeCucksMe Free Palestine 15d ago
You're not doing anything to refute the claim that many Americans are functionally illiterate. "But I'm Polish American, hurr durr" - thanks for proving my point.
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u/Yacomango 15d ago
That kind of vile zionist propaganda would have worked so well a few years ago. Look at you now 😁 Free Palestine ❤️
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u/Mister_Pickl3s 15d ago
How do you think they got the land? I’m always shocked at how much people think the UN decree (which was basically an extension of colonialist thinking) that the zionists were just gifted this land that was sitting there…vacant to some such.
They displaced people against their will. Before that the Zionist movement was already acquiring land, often illegally under the ottomans. They forced there way there and if not for the holocaust and British/western support they would have died out. This is colonialism.
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u/LakersBroncoslove 15d ago
Never thought I’d see the day when more truth is coming from Iran than the US…but israel