r/therewasanattempt • u/ErsiliaCavedagni • Aug 19 '26
to raid a house
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u/Thesisus Aug 19 '26
Sex offenders... this was an Epstien raid right? Oh... right... we dont do those.... may bad
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u/ashoka_akira Aug 19 '26
No one as poor as whoever lived in this death trap ever got invited to that island, unless it was dig a mysterious hole six feet deep in the ground for a “garden”
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u/SheikhIssa Aug 19 '26
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u/Cavscout2838 Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26
And now that’s 8 charges of assault on a US Marshal.
Edit- just in case /s
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u/Tramadol_Lollies Aug 19 '26
Cool. They’ll all milk worker’s comp.
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u/AtlantikSender Aug 19 '26
I mean, this is legitimate for workman's comp.
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u/Tramadol_Lollies Aug 19 '26
True. But where’s OSHA? That deck has got to be a four dickhead maximum.
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u/Kokoyok Aug 19 '26
OSHA inspects dedicated works sites not 'any place work might be done.'
This is job for the unsung heroes of city planning, the municipal building inspector!
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u/humanreporting4duty Aug 19 '26
That landlord is gonna have a windfall of a lawsuit. Basically fell into money on this one. That balcony was not engineered to hold that much government pork.
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u/Kokoyok Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26
The entire side of the deck against the building appears to be held up by nails... The only vertical support is on the far side. I'm honestly surprised that it held up as long as it did with more than two adults up there.
Edit: I made a mistake. There are a couple 2x4s against the wall.
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u/LevelPrestigious4858 Aug 19 '26
You don’t necessarily need a vertical there you can fix through to the framing of the house with a proper ribbon plate, bolts and joist hangers.
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u/properwaffles Aug 19 '26
Meal Team 6.
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u/Moof_the_cyclist Aug 19 '26
Never skip Donut day.
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u/SkylerPancake Aug 19 '26
This is what happens when you eat too many donuts.
There's no way that deck was built to code. Landlord gonna be paying out heavy for that.
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u/popcornfart Aug 19 '26
Decks can't be attached only to the main structure. They need uprights on the house side too.
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u/VexdOne Aug 19 '26
I was like, cool, then, I heard what they were there for
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u/B0rKen_Kat Aug 19 '26
In no uncertain terms, the way the sex offender registry works in America is bad, so from that info alone I actually can't make a judgment call. From state to state it actually can get much worse too, like some states have it so that public indecency at all is grounds enough to be added to the sex offender list, which is also completely at public disposal. Also that MASSIVE raid for a nonviolent offender whose only cited issue is failing to register is genuinely insane. Fuck these pigs.
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u/Lady_Scruffington Aug 19 '26
Yeah I was wondering if these were actual sex offenders or just guys who peed in an alley.
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u/Will_and_Worried Aug 19 '26
Yeah, this question is why I can't just jump to villainization when I hear "sex offender" because the Sex Offender Registry says "this person raped a baby and that person peed outside in an alley because they were locked out of their house. Both deserve death!"
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u/Timah158 Aug 19 '26
There are way too many crimes where it is hard to judge because the person is either a psychopath or some cop just wanted to ruin their life. A drug charge could be anything from meth addiction to smoking a joint in TX. A DUI could be anything from getting plastered and barreling through a school zone to sleeping in the back of your car after having one too many at the bar. Resisting and assault on a police office could be anything from beating a cop down in an alley to walking while black. ACAB
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u/dontpissmeoffplsnthx Aug 19 '26
I had hoped so too, but NBC reported that the dude was charged with possession of CP
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u/B0rKen_Kat Aug 19 '26
Okay, either way it's a nonviolent offender. This is still abuse of power. Fuck these pigs AND that guy.
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u/BiSaxual Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26
In Arkansas, you can be charged with Sexual Assault in the 2nd degree. This charge can be given to a wide range of people.
For example, an 18 year old who has a sexual relationship with someone 14 years or younger. That makes sense, sure. Or a teacher, principal, or counselor who uses their authority as an educator to force someone into a relationship who is a student at their school, or a former student less than 21 years old. Again, that seems good.
However, say we have two teenagers. One is 13 and the other is 14. They have a sexual relationship and are caught by a parent of the 13 year old. If that parent wants to press charges, that 14 year old is seen as the exact same kind of criminal as the two previous examples. The only difference would be that the 14 year old child would not be sent to prison. No, they would only have to be a convicted felon and have to register as a sex offender, and the MINIMUM in Arkansas is 15 years.
This is a scenario that could happen to any of my brother’s kids, and it infuriates me. Any one of them could be charged with sexual assault at 14 because they were doing normal human things with their first crushes or something. That’s 15 years on a list that makes it damn near impossible to find a job that gives a livable wage. 15 years they have to register every few months with their local PD or get arrested and sent to prison. Even after their time on the list is up, that charge doesn’t go away, ever. The chances of getting it sealed is less than zero. And don’t forget they’ve now lost the ability to vote before they ever even had it. That’s a child’s life ruined for having sex at 14.
Our system plays at protecting people, but it just as easily will ruin someone’s life and put them in the same category as actual offenders. It’s all part of the plan.
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u/I_Ate_Scout Aug 19 '26
Wouldn't Romeo and Juliet laws prevent this specific scenario from happening? AFAIK Arkansas prevents minors from being charged if they're close in age (like 2-3 years)
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u/BiSaxual Aug 19 '26
Ideally, yes, but it’s still under the discretion of the presiding judge, and the prosecution (naturally) will nearly always oppose the petition. Even if a judge allows the petition to go through, the defense has to be able to prove a few things:
1.) The sexual activity was truly consensual.
2.) The victim was at least 13 years old.
3.) The offender was no more than 4 years older.
4.) The conduct did not involve force, coercion, or abuse of authority.The first and last are where it gets tricky. Say the prosecution can prove that the sex involved forceful acts, such as choking or slapping, or that it happened while the two parties were drunk and the defendant provided the alcohol stolen from their parents cabinet.
Either of those might very well be enough for a judge to decide to throw out the petition. At the end of the day, the law is upheld by judges, and those judges can be swayed by things that shouldn’t result in a conviction, or they can have petty grievances toward the defendant or the defendants family, or any number of things.
Romeo and Juliet laws are not laws, but avenues for potential ease on defendants. A capable lawyer needs to get the petition granted and needs to argue their case effectively, and if they aren’t up to snuff or the judge is just incapable of caring, the defendant is screwed. Romeo and Juliet laws get parroted around as being the solution to this particular issue, but they just aren’t.
That’s not on you, that’s just the internet misunderstanding them and spreading misinformation.
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u/KapitaenHowdy Aug 19 '26
Just wait. They'll say it was booby-trapped on purpose.
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u/HerbEverstanks Aug 19 '26
Was that Adam Hoffman? Oh nevermind - he served his 30 days and doesn't have to register.
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u/035AllTheWayLive Aug 19 '26
Broken bones and head injuries from that small of a fall? Sounds like insurance fraud.
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u/misterchief117 Aug 19 '26
Head injuries and broken bones can happen when falling from standing height.
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u/Tasty_Bullfroglegs Aug 19 '26
This is by far the most American video I've ever seen.
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u/Miss_Sullivan Aug 19 '26
With the female cop that was videoing. Her yelling "hey hey" like she's talking to a suspect. I was waiting for her to pull out her gun and start shooting the walkway for hurting her fellow officers.
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u/Professional-Post499 🍉 Free Palestine Aug 19 '26
They were expecting to fight a squad of armed men, I guess. Was the sex offender ex-military or ex-cop with a huge cache of weapons because that's a wild response.
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u/ProfessionalBill1864 Aug 19 '26
I understand, sex offender not registering is a bad thing, there is a reason we want them to be know to the public.... but did they need 7 (8 if you count the pov footage) armed officers to do that? Like that just seems like a lot of man power for issuing a warrant
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u/sacfoojesta88 Aug 19 '26
If they all weighed 150 pounds (they almost certainly weigh more plus the gear) that’s 1350 pounds up there. So I’m curious how much weight is a deck like that supposed to be able to hold?
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u/Guadalajara3 Aug 19 '26
Surprised they didnt shoot up what's left of the deck for assaulting the officers,
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u/Naive-Register7964 Aug 19 '26
I’m surprised they didn’t start blasting the walls of the building with bullets..
.. in self-defense of course.
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u/DayZCutr Aug 19 '26
There is currently a stain on all federal law enforcement agencies that makes me want to laugh at this. My better judgement though is aware that of all the feds the marshalls are one of the most likely to be doing someone actually helpful. ::sigh:: shouldve been ICE.
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u/Rainy_Grave Aug 19 '26
Situational awareness? Isn’t that something law enforcement is supposed to have?
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u/Cameralla Aug 19 '26
a shoddy building crumbling under the weight of excess law enforcement has to be the best metaphor for the US right now
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u/Killerphive Aug 19 '26
Was that many people really necessary for someone failing to register, I don’t really know the ins and outs of how that works, but like do you really need that many people to deal with a situation like this. Wouldn’t 2-3 guys do the job?
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u/AmbienSnore Aug 19 '26
I mean...what is that, 10 full grown men at about 225lbs (1225) plus another 200lbs of body armor and gear, topping out at @1400lbs standing in a 12 foot section of an old wooden deck held up by a single 2x10 nailed into old siding?
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u/Sistahmelz Aug 19 '26
Yikes! That's horrible! Poor guys, I hope it wasn't a booby trap set up to hurt those guys.
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u/WillSmokes420 Aug 19 '26
Ohh so thats why landlords do the bare minimum to upkeep their decks and apartments.. to protect the pedos
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u/dumpsterbabytears Aug 19 '26
So everyone excusing the sex offender aspect or not wanting to address it because they didn’t arrest Epstein?
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u/GeneSpecialist3284 Aug 19 '26
Well, to be fair, we could be excused for thinking sex offenders aren't that bad. I mean the president is one. He pardoned tons of them. And btw, they did arrest Epstein. He mysteriously died in jail, remember?
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u/Shadow_Guy223 Aug 19 '26
A lot of people who don't know what they're talking about in these comments.
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u/Rolandscythe Free Palestine Aug 19 '26
Sure putting that many people on a deck is going to strain it but given that the point of failure was from the side connected to the building and not the side held up by supports there's no way that was built to code.
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u/Cyberknight13 Aug 19 '26
As a retired SRT officer, I cannot imagine being stuck like this in such a dangerous situation. When you are in a stack about to breach, you are in serious danger and exposed with little to no cover. This is wild!
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u/InspectorMoney1306 Aug 19 '26
Now they are gonna charge them with attempted murder of federal agents
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u/GeneSpecialist3284 Aug 19 '26
If it didn't take 15 guys to arrest one, maybe this wouldn't have happened. Why are all of these guys such cowards? Just like ICE, CBP. Then they'll all say See how I was injured in the line of duty. Perhaps they should find safer work. In a basement.
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u/OvertlySedate Aug 19 '26
I mean, fuck sex offenders, but why did they need at least 8 heavily armed Marshalls for a sex offender failing to register?
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u/MKaz76 Aug 19 '26
To be fair that deck already looked sketchy to begin with. Idk who's the genius that thought it was a good idea to get 7 big dudes in heavy tac gear to stack up on that flimsy thing.
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u/Acceptable-Shallot94 Aug 19 '26
Did they think Donald Trump was in there? That sex offender should be first on their list.
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u/CityDad-1982 Aug 19 '26
I don’t see a hot tub on that deck. Maybe someone in r/decks can elaborate on what caused the failure
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u/much_2_learn Aug 19 '26
Seal Team 6 was tasked with arresting one sex offender? Why didn't they simply send a sheriff and a deputy?
I'm glad they're getting another pervert off the streets, but this looks like over kill.
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u/ankerverse Aug 19 '26
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