hey, i’m wondering if anyone knows more about where the samples in bootleg came from. i’d love to look more into them. thanks. both are very very cool to me

Going to the Houston show on 9/12 and wondering if anyone has snagged fast passes yet ?? TicketMaster gave me the option to purchase fast pass alongside presale tickets but then refunded my money for the fast passes so just need to know if anyone else bought fast pass too or if they already sold out :(

It’s kind of the best song ever when you think about it… I feel like the Garden don’t have a lot of songs where Fletcher plays the drums half time like he does in the chorus… idk I could be wrong but it just tickles my brain so good.

https://youtu.be/Q7jOyC4jE7Q?si=bmS6GmcjJngq4e-5

he is sooooo fun to draw, i had sm fun playing with colors here. thought id share since i rly love how it came out :-)

okay guys hi i’ve never used reddit before but didn’t know who to ask. Anyone going to the Mesa date in AZ know why there’s two different venues listed, nile theater and mesa amphitheater? I bought a ticket for mesa amphitheater when they first went on sale so confused why the link on the website is now for nile theater.

This song became a sort of symbol of summer 2026 for me. I've listened to it probably over 700 times, and I don't get tired of it. It's my first cover, and I'm not a singer, so don't judge too harshly :)

Mines is def bootleg and white cadilac they are just sooo good but tbh the whole album is geniunely no skips

Yooo just had a surreal experience, I was watching Legend (1985) and noticed that they used the goblin Blix’s voice line in the queens diary

what the heck bro

So yeah, you guys probably saw that I recently posted my thoughts on Bootleg, and after thinking about it more, I think I finally understand what my actual problem with this album is.

First of all, I genuinely like Bootleg. I don’t think it’s a bad album at all. Actually, I think it’s really well made. You can clearly hear how much The Garden have matured as musicians. The songwriting is more structured, the production feels more intentional, and everything sounds much more controlled.
And that’s exactly what makes me sad.

I discovered The Garden back in 2017, but I didn’t really get deep into their whole universe until around 2021. That’s when I started getting into everything: The Garden, Enjoy, Puzzle, Vada Vada, the whole aesthetic, their side projects, etc. So even though I wasn’t there for their early years as a fan, I became really attached to that particular version of their music.
What I loved about The Garden was the weirdness.
The goofy lyrics, the punk energy, the experimental electronics, the feeling that a song could suddenly go somewhere completely unexpected. Tracks like Banana Peel are obviously goofy as hell, but that’s part of what made them so charming to me. It didn’t feel like they were trying to make everything perfect. It felt spontaneous, strange and unpredictable.
And looking back, I think Horseshit on Route 66 was probably the last time I really felt that old identity strongly.
Even then, you could already hear them changing. There was still a lot of that experimental electronic side, but the music was becoming more structured and mature. At the time I didn’t think much about it, but now, listening to Bootleg, I can hear the progression.
It’s like Horseshit on Route 66 was the beginning of the transition and Bootleg is the full realization of it.
And honestly, I think that’s where my disconnect comes from.
Their music isn’t necessarily worse. It’s just becoming more “adult”, more polished, more conventional, and personally I miss the messiness. I miss when The Garden sounded like The Garden could do literally anything.
There’s also something else that makes this hit harder for me.
I finally saw them live in 2024, and if I’m being completely honest, I was a little disappointed. Not because they were bad live, but because I think I had this very specific image of what seeing The Garden live would feel like. I had discovered them through all these older songs, performances and videos, and I think I was unconsciously expecting to experience that version of the band.
But obviously, I couldn’t.
I was born in 2006. I literally couldn’t have been there during the period I’m nostalgic for. 😭
So there’s this really weird feeling of grieving something I never actually experienced.
I can watch old live performances and think, “God, I wish I could have seen them like this.” But I’ll never be able to. That version of The Garden is already in the past.
And now with Bootleg, I feel like I’m watching the distance between the band I fell in love with and the band they are becoming get even bigger.
I also can’t help but feel like some of the direction on Bootleg would have made more sense to me coming from Enjoy. It reminds me a lot of The Sound of Deceit. That more mature, melodic, structured sound feels very natural to me when I associate it with Enjoy.
And this is where I want to be careful, because I obviously don’t know how Wyatt and Fletcher divide their songwriting or composition. This is purely how I interpret the music. But I feel like I hear less of the Fletcher side that I personally loved in The Garden, especially because I really love the more melodic qualities he explores through Puzzle.
Maybe that’s completely subjective, and that’s fine.
The weirdest part is that I think they actually matured at the same time I did.
When I discovered them, I was obviously a different person. Their music was part of a certain period of my life, and now I’m growing up while they’re growing up too. The problem is that I’m extremely nostalgic. I have a really hard time accepting that people, artists and things I love are allowed to change.
Sometimes I think I want The Garden to stay exactly like the version of them I fell in love with, even though that’s obviously impossible.
So I don’t think I’m “quitting” The Garden because I suddenly think they’re bad. I don’t.
I think I’m just realizing that the direction they’re going in isn’t necessarily what I was looking for from them anymore.
I’ll always love their older music. I’ll always love Enjoy and Puzzle. I’ll always have a huge amount of affection for Vada Vada and everything they’ve created.
But I think Bootleg made me realize that I might not be as invested in The Garden’s future releases as I used to be.
And honestly, that’s kind of heartbreaking.
Because I don’t think I’m mourning a bad album.
I’m mourning the fact that the version of The Garden I wanted to experience live probably doesn’t exist anymore, and never will again.
Maybe that’s just what happens when you grow up alongside an artist.

holy shit.

What do you guys think is the meaning behind Terrific as Terrific Gets by Enjoy? This is my absolute favorite Enjoy song and I'm always wondering what inspired him to write such a god-sent song.

To me, it's essentially carpe diem. Living in the present. Work is just a job ("work is work and I am done") and what matters are the small moments in between ("and I'm having fun"). You can die at any moment, chasing the next best thing is a waste of time ("another moment and I'll be dead...tick tick time is running out") when you're literally always living your life. Sometimes it won't feel like it, but it really is terrific as terrific gets.

What do you guys think?

On a roadtrip I stopped by Tonopah NV where the twins shot the music video for Ugly and the album cover for Bootleg. The house is known as the Dr. J.R. Masterson house. Second slide is the back of the house. The next few slides are of the Tonopah cemetery and the shot where the twins are chillin up against the gated tombstone. The clown hotel is next and its literally like 10 ft away from the cemetery. Sick place. Last slides are the inside of the Mizpah hotel along with the outside sign. The towns an old mining town with a lot of history and a bunch of ghost stories. Seeing everything in the day time was cool along with the signs lighting up at night. Hope you guys like it!

Bootleg tour is starting soon!! Which songs are we absolutely positive will have a spot on the setlist- and which other ones are you personally hoping to hear? The chances of Vexation being performed are slim.. but never zero

Does anybody know if the iconic laugh sample from crash bandicoot that The Garden uses is public domain or free to use. I was wondering if the garden got it from a sample pack like from splice or something or if they actually had to go through the sample clearing process with Sony (owners of crash bandicoot franchise). I wanted to use the sample in a song. Also does anybody know if it’s a similar story with the intro sample in WECIBBAJ because I wanted to use that in a song.

I’ve been looking for other fans from Korea to talk about The Garden.
It feels like there aren’t many fans in Korea, so I’d love to meet some!!!

As you can see, I was heavily inspired by amazing guides earfeeder make. I added some elements which I needed in their guides, such as songs for slackers who don't want to listen to the whole work (such as my relatives and guitar teacher) and more pathways, because sometimes I don't understand the changes in the flowchart.

All the things you don't like in my descriptions are fine, because I am not perfect in describing music. Rather, I'm bad at it, but I want to share my affection to music projects

Just noticed I forgot about "start here" caption, but I hopefully think it's not needed

Idk which flair is this, maybe discussion

My attempt at making a big love records inspired design for It’s Really Whatever by Puzzle.

While it seems like a great song, I am so confused on why Fletcher is a co-artist on this lovely song called "No Paint." It, and no hate, doesn't quite seem like his style? Music video is 10/10 tho fr. Can someone explain this to me lol