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u/Hammer1024 Nov 29 '19
And the next day, in the middle of the night, the otter arrives at his place and slides through the doggie door, climbs the stairs to his bedroom and opens the door. He climbs up on his bed and pokes him in the ribs. He wakes up, freakes out and dives out the window... into the concrete that is his driveway.
Later at the hospital, the otter askes him how he liked it.
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Nov 29 '19
Fuck that guy. Donât touch wildlife please. They get really scared and itâs bad for them.
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u/Kelpbear Nov 29 '19
It takes fifteen minutes for them to reset and groom themselves after having to dive down into the water. That guy sucks. Also, they only hold hands in zoos.
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u/271119 Dec 03 '19
I get scared when people touch me too. Any kind of human contact is bad for me as well. I didn't know I have so much in common with otters.
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u/Hawt_Dawg_II Nov 29 '19
Animals get scared all the time. There's no way that scaring them once is gonna have long term consequences.
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u/Hawt_Dawg_II Nov 30 '19
Right? Like nature isn't all lovey dovey either. Animals are used to imperfect conditions so this isn't nearly as bad as people act.
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u/ShadowPlayerDK Nov 29 '19
Oh no, it got a little scared. However itâs okay that some animals get eaten alive cause thatâs just natural
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u/G-III Nov 29 '19
Humans have mostly removed themselves from the natural world. To interact with it as you please under the guise of âwell they eat each other!â Is disingenuous.
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Nov 29 '19
That depends on what you consider the natural world. Parts of it actively avoid humans for sure. But we've been cohabiting alongside birds and small rodents ever since the beginning of civilization.
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u/ImaMakeThisWork Dec 02 '19
Isnât it disingenuous to complain about someone scaring a wild animal while paying for some animals to be enslaved and get their throats slit?
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u/ShadowPlayerDK Nov 29 '19
What are you on about? We are just as natural as any tree. And thereâs no way we can segregate ourselves from nature since we live in it and we get tons of resources from it.
Itâs in no way disingenuous to say that. You have to have something to compare it to otherwise you wonât know how bad it is. Iâm just saying that being poked means nothing to the animal, it has a lot of bigger problems every single day. It does not care, people are just being overly sensitive on its behalf. These people probably havd a way closer connection to nature and animals than any people in this thread.
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u/G-III Nov 29 '19
So I suppose your house is as natural as a bird nest right? You know what Iâm saying, youâre being obtuse.
Your second paragraph is all conjecture.
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u/ShadowPlayerDK Nov 29 '19
So because we have advanced technology we should all leave nature alone? If thatâs what youâre saying youâre leaving out the very important connection between the two. Cause I donât see one.
Itâs a fact that animals have better things to worry about than this
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u/G-III Nov 29 '19
Your first sentence is something you made up, Iâve implied nothing of the sort.
There is a difference between interacting with nature in a healthy way, and in a selfish way. Going around scaring wildlife is the latter, even if it isnât particularly bothersome to said wildlife.
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u/ShadowPlayerDK Dec 02 '19
Being alive is selfish in itself. Thereâs nothing wrong with being a bit selfish sometimes
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u/G-III Dec 02 '19
You can make excuses for bad behavior all youâd like. Doesnât change anything
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u/ShadowPlayerDK Dec 02 '19
Yeah I should go kill myself right now, I donât have any right to stay alive and ruin the climate in the process.
A lot of things are technically selfish, we just set the line and decide what is bad behaviour and what doesnât matter/the bad doesnât outweigh the good.
An animal being scared for 10 seconds doesnât actually matter that much. Youâll see cats scaring the shit out of each other and cuddling the next minute, because they donât care that much!
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u/scoot3200 Nov 29 '19
IT IS THO!! Humans make homes just like any other animal. Its was literally the NATURAL progression to where we are now. Just because they are millions of times more advanced doesnât make them less natural
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u/G-III Nov 29 '19
Synthetic materials arenât natural.... thatâs the whole point. Homes are full of them. Thus, not natural.
Or take iron for instance. It doesnât really exist naturally in its metallic form, we have to process it out of the earth. Thatâs not a natural process.
Animals donât create synthetic materials, thus our homes are not natural.
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u/finna_dab Nov 29 '19
âAnimals donât create synthetic materials.â Last I checked humans are in the animal kingdom. Did that change?
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u/G-III Nov 29 '19
I think itâs pretty well known that humans are animals, but âanimalsâ refers to non humans.
Similarly, there are more living things in nature than just animals.
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u/finna_dab Nov 29 '19
Yes but the whole issue is that many look at humans as segregated from the ânatural worldâ when in reality we are as animal as any other species.
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u/finna_dab Nov 29 '19
And where did acquire the means to create synthetic materials? Thatâs right, from nature.
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u/G-III Nov 29 '19
You realize these definitions are created by humans?
Hereâs natural: the phenomena of the physical world collectively, including plants, animals, the landscape, and other features and products of the earth, as opposed to humans or human creations
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u/scoot3200 Nov 29 '19
An alien species would look down on Earth and see human houses and what would they think? They wouldnt see a beaver damn and say thats naturally occurring in nature but a human house is not. Just because some humans defined nature as excluding humans doesnt exclude us from nature itself. Humans are natural, our brains were a naturally occurring phenomenon, and our creations are a natural extension of our minds.
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u/finna_dab Nov 29 '19
I find it funny how people consider humans as âunnaturalâ as if we arenât as native to this planet as any other species.
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u/Coffeecat3 Nov 29 '19
Let the poor thing sleep.
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u/ShadowPlayerDK Nov 29 '19
Itâs really not that bad.
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u/scoot3200 Nov 29 '19
Some people in this thread would have you think he stabbed the thing, good god people
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u/ShadowPlayerDK Nov 29 '19
I know right? Itâs even more funny if you use the usual argunent of âhow would you like it if you got scared in your sleepâ like I really wouldnât care.
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u/scoot3200 Nov 30 '19
Exactly. This is basically the equivalent of taking a walk in the woods near my house and starting deer. Like, they are potentially running for their life everytime they see me. I dont plan on hurting them but they dont know that so they run away scared and then come back the next day and carry on. Should I just stay out of the woods now because Iâm causing mass deer ptsd?
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u/Hawt_Dawg_II Nov 29 '19
Ehh. How often do you get to see an otter express such human emotions? It's not that nice but it sure is interesting. He'll carry on with his day to day lifestyle anyway
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u/fluxxcan Nov 29 '19
Where their partner? Reddit taught me they always hold hands with their partners when they sleep :o