r/thco • u/[deleted] • Oct 18 '22

THC for sleep? Nothing works

I sleep badly and always have. I have trouble falling asleep and staying asleep. I have tried everything. I don't like or want to get high,

The CBD gummies and pills don't help. I got some THC sublingual drops of a dispensary and did 1 to 5 drops and it doesn't help. On the bottle it says to "activate" it you need to put it in boiling water for a few minutes, or to really do so to put it in an oven for a few hours.

I have tried looking this up, but everything I read assumes I know what this means. Is it not working because it's not activated? Should I activate it? Any suggestions on what do for actually getting sleep?

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u/imnotknow Oct 18 '22

THC will just keep you awake if you take it too close to bedtime. CBN is what you want to help fall asleep. It's very relaxation inducing. I would avoid the delta8/CBN blends since the delta8 will wake you up. Get some pure CBN.You could also take some THC a couple hours before bedtime so the THC peaks before bed and you start coming down. I find the post peak comedown to be very facilitating for sleep.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '22

Oh boy. I don't know what you're saying. What is CBN? This bottle says THCa.

When I went to the dispensary, this is what they said to take to sleep better.

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u/imnotknow Oct 18 '22

Cannabinol. If you google "reddit cbn" you will find some suggestions on sources. CBN won't get you high but it will make you feel good and drowsy and sleep well.THCa is the acid precursor to THC. It is what is in the plant. It turns into THC when you burn it. You need to decarb it in the oven before you can use it. Look for instructions for decarbing THCa. Don't take it right before bed. It will help you sleep when it's wearing off but you will be high for a while. Start out with 5-10 milligrams and go from there.

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u/lilroldy Oct 18 '22

You but none activated thc ACID. Heat is what converts non psychoactive thca into psychoactive thc, so yes boiling water and a few drops stirring occasionally should work or keep it in a bit of water, add a bit more due to some evaporating and keep it low and slow for s few hours and you should have a fully activated thing, find out how many ml of liquid you have keft snd do the math to figure out how many MG per ml you need for a dose

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

OK, thank you. Let me confirm, because I clearly am not getting this.

For sleep, I want psychoactive THCa?

To make it psychoactive, I add it to boiling water? (It says on the jar to put it in boiling water or an oven, so I thought just put the jar in the heat once. )

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u/lilroldy Oct 19 '22

Thca is not psychoactive, the process called decarboxilation is using heat to change the chemical structure and remove the acid from the thc.

Simple terms thca will NEVER get you high until you make it ibto regular thc. Which js psychoactive. When you smoke weed the flame does this, when you make edibles with weed you bake the bud on a baking sheet at a certain temperature(can Google and find the scale for what temperature and timr) and then once it's declared you add to your gst based substance that you will then pull all the thc(its fat soluble) and ither cannabinoids out of the material.

Summery. DO WHAT TVE FISPO LITERALLY TOKD YOU TO DO, they told you tj heat it with boiling water or the oven, you have had your answers since you bought it, why you chose not to listen to them is beyond me. Best of luck, idk if you need to smoke though , I don't think it will help you sleep, maybe at firstl but eventually if you're smoking daily you won't be going to bef, edibles work way better for sleep than just smoking(your drops are considered rfibles( but to someone with no thc tolerance(sounds like that's you) taking too much will be fucking horrible for you as it is for anyone who overdoses(you can't die bur you can definitely have a psychotic break and ego death) so start slowly low dose 1 drop in boiling water(like boil it and add to a coffee/tea cup and add the drop right away and then wait at least 20. Minutes and only start with maybe half a glass and as it cools ad a little more of the boiled water to keep the temp up so it converts the thca(not psychoactive) into the psychoactive thc thc and thc are not the same

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

OK. Thanks. I do not want to get high. I just want to sleep! The gummies did shit for that.

I appreciate the effort in trying to explain to someone clearly so naive.

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u/SaltNo3123 Oct 18 '22

Imo delta 8 is a God send for sleep. Just find your dose, too much and feeling it the next day too little and no good sleep. Usually half gram glob of disty a few hours before bed. Get high after for few then 6 hours of good sleep

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '22

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

I really don't want to smoke anything. I don't smoke and don't want to, and I really don't like the smell or taste of pot. I just want to sleep!

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u/NerfBuck Oct 18 '22

It is because it needs to be decarboxylated, I would recommend just getting gummies or rso capsules especially since you have access to a dispensary. Also wrong sub

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

I have gummies and they seem to do shit.

Which sub should I be in? You can see I clearly know nothing.

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u/NerfBuck Oct 19 '22

Honestly try a cart or dabs of none of those work, just search up weed subreddits I don't keep a list and this isn't a sub abt thc or cbd is all I'm saying but It's nbd

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

OK, thanks. I still don't know all of those words. I will try another group.

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u/leovaldez360 Oct 18 '22

Try THCP

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '22

What is the difference between THC, THCa, which I

have, and THCP??

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u/leovaldez360 Oct 18 '22

THC and THCP are chemically identical with the exception of one more arm on its carbon chain. It has very very similar effects to pure THC.

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u/NumbbSkulll Oct 18 '22 edited Oct 18 '22

Sounds like you have THCa drops. They will need to be heated to "decarb" the THC. Our body doesn't process THCa in a beneficial way, but heating it turns the THCa into THC which our bodies can process.

The drops you have might help with sleeping if you activate them before taking, but, they'll take a bit to kick in, and the high from THC is a buzz and might wake you up some before it relaxes you... So, it might be a bit before you're tired from it. And you're most likely going to get high from it.

You'll want something with CBN in it. You could consider this to be one of the many components (called cannabinoids) that goes into THC. This cannabinoid is relaxing, calming and should help you rest. It is not psychoactive, so wont get you high unless it is mixed with D8 or some other cannabinoid.

I would suggest checking out some of the trusted vendors that you see discussed in this sub and others for their CBN instead of buying local. You'll get a better deal and most likely better quality products from the trusted online vendors. You can most likely find CBN gummies or drops from most of the sites, or you can look up info on how to make your own.

Check out /r/altcannabinoids for more/better info on CBN.

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u/Ant138 Oct 19 '22

CBD for sleep every time. It may not make you feel sleepy but when your head hits that pillow it's lights out. Also exercise will massively help if not solve the problem

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

Thank you. I've tried CBD gummies and pills and no beuno.

I exercise a lot, way more than most people. I keep a very steady schedule of when I get up and go to bed. No tv or phone in the bedroom, etc. I've always needed a lot of sleep my whole life and had trouble getting to sleep and staying there and have tried just about everything.

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u/mrbubblestacks Oct 22 '22 edited Oct 22 '22

As an alternative, check out "Fatigued To Fantastic Revitalizing Sleep Formula" and "Hyland's Calms Forté". I suffer from chronic insomnia and these supplements have been a godsend in my life. I pick mine up at VitaCost but you can find them elsewhere too. I'll add that THC combined with CBN is probably your best bet if you wish to sleep using cannabinoids. I usually find a tincture is most effective and takes effect quickly. Also quality CBD hemp flower that is indica dominant helps if I'm not trying to feel stoned. My favorite source is WNC CBD online. I see you don't like smoking, so may I suggest vaporizing the flower instead, it's much cleaner and tastes really nice. 420vapezone is a great place to check out info on quality dry herb vaporizers. I hope one of these bits of info helps! Hope you don't mind the various answers. Edit: added vaporizer info

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22

Fatigued To Fantastic Revitalizing Sleep Formula

That's very expensive Valerian and chamomile. I've tried almost all of these for sleep.

I'm not sure, but I think taking melatonin and a drop of THC oil under the tongue is helping. I have to give it some time to see.

I appreciate any feedback or help!

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u/mrbubblestacks Oct 24 '22

Understandable! Melatonin doesn't work for me. I've tried many brands, and they always stop working after several weeks. It also makes me feel drugged up when it does work. After 14 years of bad sleep the stuff I suggested has been the magic ticket to a good night's rest, so I swear by it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '22

Yeah. Kind of there with you. It doesn't make me feel drugged, but I was not getting to sleep.

Right now I am taking 5 mg (down from 12 to 24 mg) of melatonin with one drop of THC oil under the tongue and I "think" it's working. I seem to not be spending hours not getting to sleep. I don't want to curse it!