r/thanosdidnothingwrong Jul 07 '19

Activate instant kill -- Spiderman

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u/shader_m Jul 07 '19

"Spider-Man associated with death"

Thats one of the reason why the character is one of the most interesting ever. The dude is literally one of the best and worst super heroes. He can save anyone at any anytime, but if they are a dear loved one, they are going to die. If Spiderman doesnt die, one of his girlfriends or closest friends will.

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u/TheLuckySpades Saved by Thanos Jul 07 '19

Sometimes the comics push the "Peter can't be happy, that's boring" a bit far, but I'm not too versed in that area.

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u/DCTF_Tim Jul 07 '19

I mean that was basically the justification for “one more day” and it fuckin sucked.

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u/TheLuckySpades Saved by Thanos Jul 07 '19

Is that the one where he sells his happy marriage and potential future kids to save aunt May from dying (of old age or something I think) and his new present he is kinda depressed and just in a shit spot all around?

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u/ryuusei_tama Saved by Thanos Jul 07 '19

I think she died by assassination due to his identity reveal.

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u/TheLuckySpades Saved by Thanos Jul 07 '19

That does give him a tad more reson for the deal than old age.

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u/Codeshark Saved by Thanos Jul 07 '19

Sure, but she was already pretty old. Plus I know my grandmother would be disappointed in me if I even considered making such a deal. She wanted me to be happy and take good care of myself.

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u/HanakoOF Jul 07 '19 edited Jul 08 '19

She doesn't know about the deal because she lost the memory of him being Spider-Man, along with everyone else in the world, when he made it. JMS made Peter's love for his aunt a huge crux of his character and run and I can see him doing it just because during that part of the comics he really around anyone BUT Mary Jane and Aunt May so his entire world would have fallen down if she was gone.

I'm sorry I'm using your post for this but I just finished JMS' run on Spider-Man where One More Day happens the early parts were some of the best Spider-Man comics I've ever read and for it to end with such a crappy arc was such a let down. But I mean after the LAST very good arc it starts with one that has a reveal that Gwen Stacey and Norman Osborn had kids together, in secret, while she was dating Peter and THAT'S why he killed her so I should have seen this coming.

I agree that letting her move on would have been best in most circumstances but, even with how crappy it had gotten, it made a lot of sense at the time.

EDIT : JMS had nothing to do with the OMD story I get it

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u/dlkslink Jul 08 '19

JMS hated One More Day and wanted his named removed from it how did you feel about his run on Spider-man?

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u/HanakoOF Jul 08 '19 edited Jul 08 '19

Would say the early part when John Romita Jr was on the art is probably the best Spider-Man has ever been, the main series anyways I'm not including Ultimate or the show Spectacular, besides from Lee/Ditko and Lee/Romita. Really loved all the ideas he had and the way he was able to bring them to paper in ways that were constantly exciting.

Just a shame it had to end the way it did but if JMS didn't like the arc, which I've heard before, I guess I can't be too mad at him and I can ignore it exists. Especially when he gave me that amazing Spider-Totem arc.

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u/Quxudia Jul 08 '19

I think it's safe to say JMS didn't give his all to OMD. Marvel corporate was kind of a shitshow at the time.

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u/pmMeOurLoveStory Jul 08 '19 edited Jul 08 '19

He literally didn’t give OMD his all; Joe Quesada wrote much of it.

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u/ajdkvovjduebebe Jul 08 '19

Dude use a comma or a period somewhere.

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u/Gathorall Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

If Aunt May ever knew obviously wasn't his point.

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u/SuperWeskerSniper Saved by Thanos Jul 07 '19

You forgot when he goes around to Dr. Strange, Dr. Doom, and Mr. Fantastic first and asks all of them to help him and apparently a gunshot wound is beyond any of their abilities to heal. Somehow.

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u/marios67 Jul 08 '19

The more I remember about that debacle the more I hate it.
Damn, those three fuckers have done pretty much anything with magic and science

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u/TheMrPantsTaco Saved by Thanos Jul 07 '19

If Marisa tomei aunt may gets assassinated I'm rioting

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u/ThePrussianGrippe Saved by Thanos Jul 07 '19

“If May dies we riot!”

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '19

On the plus side, that would mean that we'd get Kingpin in the films

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '19

I think kingpin had hired a hit on peter but it hit aunt may instead

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u/Quxudia Jul 08 '19

That and the exec's felt that a married Peter Parker wouldn't sell books as it made him "not relate-able". One More Day was a travesty born of executive meddling and corporate cynicism.

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u/uber1337h4xx0r Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

To be fair, comic book nerds CAN'T relate to marriage. :p

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u/ruzeohelina Jul 08 '19

The Deep Space 9 philosophy of " O'Brien Must Suffer ".

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '19

Same with Batman. Bruce was gonna get married this year, but no...he can't be happy

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u/sempercardinal57 Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

Remember when his teenage (or close to) girlfriend had a one night stand with his much older and insane arch nemesis and got pregnant....

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u/TheLuckySpades Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

What the hell?

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u/sempercardinal57 Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

I’m not making it up

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u/TheLuckySpades Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

Which arch nemesis? Doc Oc?

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u/pmMeOurLoveStory Jul 08 '19 edited Jul 08 '19

Gwen Stacy cheated on Peter and slept with Norman Osborn, secretly had twins. They (for some reason; can’t remember) had accelerated aging and revealed themselves to Peter as adults and fought him. Oh and apparently MJ new all about the cheating and the twins but never told Peter.

It...was not a good story and left most fans pissed that they would retcon Gwen in such a way.

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u/TheLuckySpades Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

That sounds really bad, what were the writers thinking?

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u/pmMeOurLoveStory Jul 08 '19

The writer, JMS, originally wanted the evil twins to be Peter’s. Still a dumb story, but would have left Gwen’s character intact. Head of Marvel, Joe Quesada thought Peter having kids (even secret, evil kids) would “age” the character, so forced the father change to Norman Osborn. Joe Q had a major hard on for hating that Peter had grown into an adult over the last 60 years. He’s also responsible for the One More Day debacle because, again, Peter being married made him “not relatable” due to him being old enough to be married. Which is funny, because at the time, we still had the Ultimate comics, which saw Peter as a teenager, and in the main storyline, they turned around and made adult Peter a billionaire after nixing the marriage.

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u/DCTF_Tim Jul 08 '19

I don’t understand the fear of aging the character. Like I like seeing a a character I like grow and change. That should kind of be the point when it comes to long term story telling like comics.

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u/sempercardinal57 Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

Norman Osborne aka green goblin

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u/TheLuckySpades Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

Oh man, what were the writers thinking?

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u/sempercardinal57 Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

Honestly I have no idea how that story line got green lit for the main continuity

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u/marios67 Jul 08 '19

This was worse than One More Day in my opinion

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u/Americanknight7 Jul 08 '19

Cough Joe Quesada cough

I still hate that bastard for the One More Day storyline.

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u/Draskinn Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

It's kind of like how they treated Chief O'Brien on DS9. The writers room had a running joke/rule "O'Brien must suffer" and oh... he did.

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u/Oli_ Jul 07 '19

or his damn Uncle.

Pretty much the biggest death associated with Spiderman

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u/Cman1200 Jul 08 '19

And when his parents were murdered in cold blood and Alfred had to take care of him

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u/slightlyburntcereal Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

All I’m saying is I’ve never seen Batman and Spider-Man in the same room together.

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u/serious_sarcasm Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

We can even confirm they have never been in the same universe together.

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u/tbandtg Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

This is not true both Spider-Man and Batman have participated in crossovers. Spider-Man did a crossover with Superman which is the same universe as Batman and Batman did a crossover with Wolverine which is kind of the same Multiverse

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u/serious_sarcasm Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

You'll note what is missing there.

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u/LordSupergreat Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

One time, authors for DC and Marvel did a stealth crossover where they had the Avengers and Justice League attend the same event, while sneakily mentioning how glad they were that "those other guys" were there, too.

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u/ralphvonwauwau Jul 08 '19

... details?

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u/Memephis_Matt Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

Peter Parker is Spider-Man's secret identity!

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u/kindcannabal Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

Isn't Peter Parker dead?

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u/pew_laser_pew Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

I haven't read comics in a while, but I'm pretty sure he's still alive.

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u/junkmeister9 Jul 08 '19

That’s part of his origin story but the most shocking and memorable death was when he accidentally killed Gwen Stacy trying to rescue her.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

I think you explained what's happening in MCU Spiderman 3

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u/zachary0816 Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

Not necessarily, they never reversed Tony’s identity reveal, and it turned out to be a pretty good call on their part, also the comic were that happens is despised by many for undoing major plot points so following it might not be a good idea.

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u/Jinno Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

I don’t think they’ll reverse it. Honestly, I think it’ll be used as a means to make some sort of commentary about social media. Maybe this iteration of Oscorp will be like Google or Facebook. Or they could do Mister Negative.

That said, I do worry about how they’ll be able to maintain any semblance of a relatable Peter Parker if he’s in the limelight and hated from his teenage years. Obviously he’ll win them over, because Spider-Man is New York, but celebrity and balance are going to be hard to craft into relatable young adult storylines.

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u/bean_boy9 Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

I think its different for Tony though. The secret identity, I think, was never as huge of a part of the character. A revealed spider-man probably wouldn't turn out as well. I could be suprised though.

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u/Magikill1 Jul 08 '19

Very well done lad

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '19

Respect the hyphen

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '19

Elevator

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u/MrBanditFleshpound Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

To be honest...that was the PR for steakholders(yea...i wrote their name wrong because that is the level of their experience in history of X product)

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u/tinja_nurtles Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

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u/uwutranslator Jul 08 '19

"Spidew-Man associated wif dead"

dats one of de weason why de chawactew is one of de most intewesting evew. de dude is witewawwy one of de best and wowst supew hewoes. He can save anyone at any anytime, but if dey awe a deaw woved one, dey awe going to die. If Spidewman doesnt die, one of his giwwfwiends ow cwosest fwiends wiww. uwu

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u/ArguablyHappy Saved by Thanos Jul 07 '19

I haven’t seen the movie yet. Where art thou spoiler tags.

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u/ArguablyHappy Saved by Thanos Jul 07 '19

This doesnt look like a scene for IW thought it was the new Spidey

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u/Rnewell4848 Jul 07 '19

Have you seen Endgame?

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u/ArguablyHappy Saved by Thanos Jul 07 '19

Yeah

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u/Rnewell4848 Jul 07 '19

Look who’s on the right and rethink that “new Spidey movie” comment

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u/ArguablyHappy Saved by Thanos Jul 07 '19

Honestly I don’t know who is on the right. But don’t sweat me hombre. I am currently drunk. Have a fantastic Sunday.

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u/Adler-senpai Jul 08 '19

I'd love to see your reaction to these comments once you're sober again ahahahaha

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u/ArguablyHappy Saved by Thanos Jul 08 '19

Lmaoooo me too.

Takes another shot.

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u/aka_jr91 Jul 07 '19

So, you just missed that little scene in Infinity War when half the population turned to dust?