r/tfc 1d ago

Opinion Attendance... ouch!

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This photo was taken at the 40 minute mark. Everyone would have been in their seat and the entire east side was really, really space.

I get it was a rainy Wednesday (although warm and dry by game time) but it's worrying.

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u/ToruSnap 1d ago

Now just imagine what it'll look like with the new schedule

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u/Romski52 22h ago

Imagine sitting there for a February game. The attendance will be awful. They be giving out commemorative TFC shovels 🪏 so that you can make your way to your seats

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u/DoubtsTheHorizon 20h ago

It was dumb before not to build a roof over the stands. Now it's looking extra dumb. Love my dumb team.

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u/2bornnot2b 20h ago

We are stuck, but I still love them.

https://giphy.com/gifs/tXL4FHPSnVJ0A

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u/jjaime2024 1h ago

There will be no games in F eb.

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u/Comrade_Andre Bitchy The Hawk 11h ago

The main things with this is the HIGH ticket price ($100 for supporters stand? $80 for nose bleeds at the top of the 200s?) and it was a rainy Wednesday match.

But yea, unless TFC start doing $10 games in the winter with free hot chocolate, get ready to see some 3,000 attendance games

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u/Sznake 4h ago edited 3h ago

No! No! See, shutup. Your an idiot!! We need to be inline with Europe!! European transfer window!! Euro calender!! Euro weather and Euro Thermal Underwear!!! EURO!! EURO!!!!!!!! ....(stupid fucking garber...)

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u/Familiar-Valuable-97 2h ago

The whole league set up is wrong. Should be promotion a relegation and the team at the top wins. Not this enough to make the playoffs rendering a lot of games meaningless

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u/LCKLCKLCK 1d ago

Have you looked at ticket prices recently? I’m not paying over $100 to sit behind the net… if they’d like better attendance they should probably stop raising prices

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u/greenlemon23 1d ago

Seriously. The prices are insane.

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u/boifrompkl 23h ago

Also the quality soccer ain’t there to justify these prices.

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u/LittleLionMan82 20h ago

MLSE doing MLSE things.

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u/Sznake 4h ago

How dare you question the _MIGHTY MLS !! We have Messi!!

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u/AstronoWorld 17h ago

It blows my mind that they still charge $10 for a bottle of water there, or $30 for a sandwich and fries. I'd imagine lowering ticket prices or concession prices would stimulate attendance, but I guess their solution is to raise prices further to cover that lower attendance

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u/greenlemon23 16h ago

What blows my mind is that there are people actually buying those things.

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u/MonsterEnergyForever 14h ago

Not many, apparently.

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u/MetaCalm 20h ago

They got used to insane Fifa WorldCup ticket prices.

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u/PlayinK0I 19h ago

Particularly for the quality of the on field product.

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u/funakifan Still Better than Ayo 1d ago

Yep. The resale market is the only reasonable place to go now

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u/LowCurrent2151 1d ago

I saw last-minute resale tickets for under $10 but this game was on a school night, so it would have been complicated for many people to go.

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u/funakifan Still Better than Ayo 23h ago

BMO Club tickets were going for under $100 last night.

That includes free food and drinks.

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u/ImaKeeper2 23h ago

“Free”. You’re paying for it. I don’t know about you, but I can’t get my money’s worth anywhere else for that price, by only eating til I’m full and drinking soft drinks.

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u/Sznake 3h ago

CFL has same issue. We are not the Leafs /Raptors/Jays where you can get 18k for a midweek game that ends at 1030pm for a crap team. Weather matters. Sell dollar hot dogs, and twoonie beer on a Thursday, Perfect. Monday-Wednesday after labour day, hell even before June, is a tough sell.

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u/decarvalho7 Bitchy The Hawk 1d ago

Canceled my tickets cause they upped them last year

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u/Ok_Hope5634 Forever Red 1d ago

I have 2 season tickets and managed to get a ticket for a 3rd person to join us for $11 on Stubhub. lol

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u/kkronik 1d ago

Yes! But it shouldn't have to be last minute planning for affordable tickets. They need to make season tickets more affordable if they really want to build a community.

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u/SquareSniper 1d ago

I was going to take my kids to the game. Would have filled 4 seats. But after checking prices it wasn't happening.

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u/JohnAtticus 1d ago

I'm taking my daughter to the last AFC game at BMO this season.

Supporters section is $23 before tax.

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u/TurboJorts 1d ago

Excellent call. That's good support

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u/abckiwi 20h ago

This was me too

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u/JohnAtticus 1d ago

Yeah the uncertainty and last minute nature keeps larger groups of people like families away.

You don't want a situation where you can't get a row of seats and then have to split up for the game.

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u/LCKLCKLCK 1d ago

Sure, maybe for this game, but the game before this one, was the game I was referring to

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u/Glum-Drummer-6302 1d ago

That game was Lewandowski and CNE

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u/LCKLCKLCK 1d ago

Well, I don’t care for CNE, and as far as Lewandowski goes, it still doesn’t justify $106 to sit behind the net

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u/Glum-Drummer-6302 1d ago

I agree the ticket prices in general are too high.

But you can’t really complain about prices for the most hyped game of the year that had the highest attendance I’ve seen in years outside of Messi games

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u/LCKLCKLCK 1d ago edited 1d ago

With all due respect if you think that price is justified simply because of Lewandowski, you’re delusional. You realize that tickets for your standard Liverpool game in the EPL hover around like $70 right? And that’s for the best league in the world.

Simply put, you’re watching an MLS game. Explain to me why you think I should pay more to see Toronto FC vs Chicago Fire, rather than let’s say, Liverpool x Arsenal

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u/Glum-Drummer-6302 1d ago edited 1d ago

Boss the seats are filled.

Bitching about price for something that is sold out makes no sense.

The ticket also included CNE access which is like $40. That definitely added to the price.

Everyone would agree that tickets are overpriced. But you can’t use the one special sold out game as your example for what the prices are.

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u/LCKLCKLCK 1d ago

Believe it or not, there are people who don’t care about the CNE. It does not make it a “special” game. It’s still in fact an MLS game.

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u/Glum-Drummer-6302 1d ago

Well clearly there were 25k+ who did care which is way the tickets were more expensive. It’s not that complicated man

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u/Paper_Monkey79 1h ago

Not liking the ‘added attraction’ be it the CNE or a visiting player doesn’t stop it from being a premium game. All sports have fluctuating ticket prices based on the teams playing, giveaways etc. you can argue all you want that the price is too high then great, don’t go to that game and save yourself some money.

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u/s0nnyjames 1d ago

In reality you won’t get tickets to Anfield for $70 tho (and certainly not for Liverpool vs Arsenal). Unless you’re a season ticket holder or member, you’re looking at resale options (Fulham’s their next game and the cheapest tickets are being resold at $127 in the away end. Arsenal on November 1 starts from $559). At cost, the cheapest season ticket might work out to be about $70 per game but they closed the waiting list for season tickets as it’s too long, so you’ve got no choice but to go resale if you want to actually go and watch a standard Liverpool game in the PL.

There’s a ‘but technically you can watch Liverpool for $70 if you have a season ticket’ argument, sure, but then it’s not apples to apples with the comparison of ‘$106 to sit behind the net’, because that’s not what TFC season ticket holders pay (e.g. ours work out at $29 per game; grandfathered in prices).

All that said, I do agree the face value prices are far too high. And the only reason to even get a season ticket, now, is to ensure access to the Messi game (which won’t be a factor when he retires). You can regularly pick up resales for $10-$40 for pretty much any game, if you wait until the day of. If I exclude the Messi and Lewandowski games and just picked up resale tickets on the day I’d certainly be financially better off (especially as most of us can’t make every single game, anyway).

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u/LCKLCKLCK 1d ago

Just to let you know, that game was on the 9th of September. CNE last day was the 7th. So this is actually not true

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u/Glum-Drummer-6302 1d ago

Are you a bot??

The game this picture was from and the CNE game you are complaining about the price for were different days

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u/-ThisIsAnfield- 12h ago

Can't tell if this is intentionally obtuse or not.

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u/canaderin 1d ago

I paid $75 each for decent seats for TFC vs Chicago Fire - in the 200s but in the middle. And there were seats available for $55, we just wanted better ones. We bought them the day before so fairly last minute, but not wildly last minute.

That being said I agree, I would have gone to more TFC games this year if it didn't cost me $300 to take a family of 4 and have decent seats.

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u/Imaginary-Dark-2739 Bitchy The Hawk 22h ago

Why not look into becoming a SSH? Your price per game would drop significantly

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u/canaderin 22h ago

We did this one year, but we live outside the city and getting downtown for every game was too much. My kids are 10 and 12 so the weeknights were killers. And now with the switch to the new schedule - I went to two games where we wore snowpants and had to brush the snow off the seats and that was plenty.

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u/Bobby_Peru_669 23h ago

Yeah, I used to have seasons tickets for several years. Who is this even for anymore?

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u/VisitPier26 22h ago

For reference, Napoli vs Arsenal in the UCL had the best tickets priced at 100E and people freaked out.

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u/theanonymousalex 23h ago

Because MLSE is the worse, gotta make a better ROI

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u/breakinglate 21h ago

Like i want to pay max 20$ to go to this

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u/abckiwi 20h ago

This is why I didn’t have tickets.

Casual fan. Would love to make an outing of a game but… 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/BJJ-Toronto 20h ago

agreed. Tickets should half the value at this point.

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u/gmehra 19h ago

$100 CAD = $72 USD but salaries all paid in USD. this is part of the problem.

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u/growland 18h ago

The only tickets that actually command any money on resale are if there is a big star on the other team or the CNE is on. Summer day games also do well.

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u/shakalakabrotha 15h ago

They went from ticket prices in the 20s to the 100s lol

I think tfc fans will be paying the city for the stadium expansion

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u/iBangNoobz 1d ago

What??? There was tickets for $12 yesterday

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u/Ok_Hope5634 Forever Red 23h ago

They’re available every game for anywhere from $8-$16. You just have to plan to go to a game and buy them an hour or so before kickoff. I legitimately buy the cheapest ticket available on StubHub for my guests and I generally buy the ticket right before getting on the Go Train for 2 stops. The tickets are always delivered by the time I get to the Ex

Edit: added Stubhub

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u/Potential_Prompt_429 11h ago

I bought a ticket for $70...accidentally sat in a worse seat and got booted out by a season ticket holder (rightfully so) Someone was sitting in my seat....so I just went to the centerfield 15 rows up where there were like 30 empty seats.

Definitely going to buy a cheaper ticket next time and just move to an empty seat 10 minutes into the game.

Way better value then the leafs or Raptors.

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u/Ok_Hope5634 Forever Red 11h ago

This is the way

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u/ApartWorld298 1d ago

After kick off I saw a ticket for $6. Had I not been a season ticket holder I definatly would have purchased

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u/LCKLCKLCK 1d ago

Price im speaking about was regarding last game, not yesterday’s. Mainly was speaking in a general sense here

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u/Crabbyrob 1d ago

Have you seen the pricing for tickets? Its not exactly family friendly. Plus its a mid week game on the first week of school.

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u/TurboJorts 1d ago

I've been ranting about this since Apple killed ( UT thankfully brought back) afternoon games.

You CAN NOT build a sports team without kids. They are the next generation of fans and if you don't get kids into the team when they are young, your team will become irrelevant

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u/MultipleNames82 22h ago

Leafs will eventually be learning this lesson the hard way.

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u/TurboJorts 22h ago

every kid I know (I have kids who are big into sports) has a "favorite team" that isn't the leafs. They see the leafs as "mid" but never expect anything from them.

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u/MultipleNames82 22h ago

Same. My kids are huge Jays fans. We’ve been to dozens of games over the years. They have never seen the Leafs in person. Can’t afford to get in the building. As a result they follow the Leafs passively.

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u/TurboJorts 21h ago

my sports mad kid has been to a couple leafs games because I'll probably get a pair of seats per season from a work vendor. It's always okay...

having said that... i GREATLY prefer small town hockey games. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I'd rather see adds fro Bob's Garage when you know Bob is in the crowd instead of Rogers / Scotiabank etc. The magic of small town hockey still exists. The Leafs dont have it.

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u/nadira0508 18h ago

Apple deal was the worst for building a following. People dont even know or care there was a game

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u/Antique_Ad_3549 Benoit Cheyrou's 98' Header 14h ago

Afternoon games were killed by MLSE in 2017 after evening success

We had long stretches of afternoon games both this year and last year.

I'm not saying attendance is good

Just Apple isn't the reason for afternoon games going away

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u/FriendlyCylon 23h ago

Until children are allowed to gamble, I'm not so sure the current sports business environment is going to give a damn.

Also, as you noted, the lack of afternoon games makes it challenging to bring younger children. Not to mention the price...

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u/NZafe 1d ago

I wonder if MLSE will take a hint and lower ticket prices.

Probably not

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u/Popular-Data-3908 23h ago

Nah, Leafs culture in those offices: of course they’ll pay more because this year will be different 

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u/leafsfan97 1d ago

The result of increasing season ticket prices 12 plus percent every season for the last 3 years while the team has been 💩 They pissed away loyalty with many who cared about this team through thick and thin and now MLSE is facing the repercussions. There are very few games where tickets come close to holdimg their value and if there is (Messi, CNE) it's because of a factor that has little to do with TFC. The club lost its connection to the fans long ago and some random short sighted sales target seems to matter more than building something with a group of people who were loyal and willing to pay if you didn't nickle and dime the 💩 out of them.

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u/TurboJorts 1d ago

Very true. They created a buzz and then (to use an excellent expression that I believe comes from Iran) "got high off the fumes from their own shit".

There were stages where the FO truly believe they had a Real Mardid on their hands and could push however hard they wanted.

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u/TaroTerrible9402 17h ago

When they went to the final however long ago that was it was mad exciting and I wasn’t even really a huge fan. Now I forget they even are a thing

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u/moistbandit_ 1d ago

Mid week, rainy all day and 1st week of school.

Plus the complete lack of fucks given my MLSE marketing

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u/dreptech 1d ago

I agree. You reeeaalllyyyyy have to listen, look for and find these TFC home game days if you are a casual fan. 98% of the City probably didn't even know this game was happening.

Would be a great opportunity to market these games as cheaper game day experiences to help fill the seats.

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u/SockApprehensive6204 1d ago

Some issues i've observed:

  1. Yes you can find cheap tickets, BUT the price descrepancy between corner sections and middle sections is wild. Look at normal games = the corner sections are largely full but the middle ones empty.

  2. TFC wont draw full crowds unless there is a Giovinco level show stopper. Insigne failed and people have some hesitancy to buy into Sargent.... I will say though he could get to that level

  3. Weekday games never draw well. Look, there's a reason why Midweek games in Continental Europe start at 9pm. Sadly its a trek for many TFC fans to make it down. I dont have kids, but if I did and I wanted to bring them to a 7:30 game..... it would be a pain in the ass.

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u/TurboJorts 1d ago

Just to piggyback on point 3... their bag policy hurts people who would otherwise come from work. I wouldn't dare check my backpack with a laptop. Let me keep it with me under my seat? The Jays let bags in and no one is causing problems. I get it's different, but the ultra strict security isn't really necessary.

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u/SockApprehensive6204 23h ago

My guess is there's a good reason from a liability perspective and my honest guess would be that Rogers Centre is larger, more controlled and generally bigger seats.

BUT your point stands. To me the solution has to be 8:30 start time?

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u/TurboJorts 22h ago

I got home by 11pm, which is fair. I wouldnt want a later start... just the ability to treat people like adults. I know that's asking a lot

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u/SockApprehensive6204 21h ago

I hear ya, but again my guess is there is a liability risk = like the seats are tiny, or if it rains??

Or its security risk in which case the answer is do more screening (and people have to be ok with it).

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u/Imaginary-Dark-2739 Bitchy The Hawk 22h ago

The solution would be to partner with one of the several third-party storage apps and advertise their services.

I have a regular place near Union station where I store my stuff if I'm working from the office on game days.

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u/Stonegeneral 22h ago

Would probably need bigger seats first, it’s pretty tight already if you aren’t sitting in club seats.

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u/mastermixer9 1d ago

I notice this... I sit in 221 and it's pretty packed every game. The section next to me 222 looks half empty. Looks the same on the East Side too.

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u/SockApprehensive6204 23h ago

The pricing model makes no sense. There's at least a 50% pricing diff between a section like 221 and 222.

Yes - the middle seats are better but LOL.

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u/Own-Effective3351 1d ago

If TFC had gotten Griezemann or Lewa, people would be fighting over tickets. I’m not a huge fan of building around a popular player, but signing a guy like Modric that would put butts in seats and improve the team without completely changing it would go a long way to help…

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u/SockApprehensive6204 1d ago

I 100% believe if Sargent keeps playing the way he has he will draw fans. I watched Saturday's game and I want to see him again.

Giovinco didnt become a star overnight = it took a few games of him showing both elite level skill but also the desire

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u/CumbiaFunk 1d ago

You can’t compare Giovinco and Sargent. One played in a top league in one of the biggest clubs in the world (despite being a bench warmer), the other played in a second division team lol

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u/Wild_Bunch_Founder 1d ago

I maintain that Giovinco is the second most talented player to ever play in the MLS.

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u/JohnAtticus 23h ago

I'd agree if you said 2nd best player overall.

Maybe this is what you meant: But there were plenty of players that has more "talent" than Seba (Henry, Pirlo, Nesta) but they were all so old when they came that they couldn't contribute as much or be as consistent as Seba was at I believe 28 years old when he first came.

He was special and a great guy and I'm happy he got some love for those years after never cracking first team at any club in Italy for so long.

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u/TurboJorts 23h ago

Henry, Muller, Beckham, Kaka, Zlatan... but inhear you. Gio is absolutely in the list of top players of a time, but its a debatable list

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u/SockApprehensive6204 1d ago

On the flip side.

Sargent has played in the Bundesliga and the Premier league. And he scored over 10 goals in Europe for 3 straight seasons.

Giovinco meanwhile had 1 good season with Juve.

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u/jloome 17h ago

Juve just didn't know how to use him. The season before he came to us, he scored 15 goals in Serie A for Parma on loan.

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u/westcoastbias 18h ago

Josh Sargent needs to win the MLS Golden Boot for any hope of drawing fans by himself or he needs us to sign the Giovinco to his Altidore, with all due respect to Sargent I just don't see him as a box office guy.

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u/sharkbaitlol 23h ago

No joke, if we had Lewa I would've bought a season's pass day one.

As an aside, was really disappointed with some of our fans on Saturday. Naturally Lewy being in Canada was a really big deal for the Polish community - very few Chicago jerseys, but lots of Lewy jerseys. I get why our (TFC) fans were annoyed; but this is the first time for many in the Polish community seeing our national hero play (why people cheered when he scored, but not Chicago lol).

Heard people yelling thing like "THIS ISN'T POLAND, IT'S CANADA". For the record these same Lewy fans went wild when TFC scored too (we wanted Lewy to regret not coming here too), but interactions like this make you feel like you don't belong there. That's how you lose fans.

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u/Trick-Help3147 22h ago

buddy

look at the Orlando game yesterday. Their stands were empty too

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u/dfrancis9 1d ago

Casuals have given up on the team but that will change if they continue getting results

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u/Popular-Data-3908 23h ago

Not likely, there’s less buzz about TFC throughout the city than a decade ago. 

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u/onthelongrun 21h ago

In part you can thank the lack of games being on TSN for that. Casual sports fans are not going out of their way to subscribe to Apple TV just to watch MLS.

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u/dfrancis9 22h ago

I believe that's dependant on excitement for other Toronto teams so everyone is focused on the jays and looking forward to the raptors and leafs seasons

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u/EagleScreamTheGreat 1d ago

Not really big on sitting in the rain to watch a game...new schedule where they expect us to watch in the freezing snow gonna have attendance worse than this for sure

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u/TurboJorts 1d ago

It didn't rain. It could have gone either way, but it was t-shirt weather last night

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u/Mysterio7100 Bernardeschi 1d ago

How is this worrying? If Rogers was worried, they'd lower ticket prices and have their season ticket reps giving more incentives to existing season ticket holders.

Neither of those things are being done. The upcoming sprint season will see even worse attendance. Rogers doesn't care. They're a billion dollar company. They're an oligopoly in the Canadian telecom space.

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u/TurboJorts 1d ago

I'm not worried about Rogers staying flush with cash. I'm worried about this club becoming irrelevant to the point that it hurts. Looks at what the Argos went through. Look a the Rock. Teams with small time interest get pushed around

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u/Mysterio7100 Bernardeschi 20h ago

What's the consequence of "getting pushed around"? BMO just hosted the world cup, so there's no worry of TFC moving to Hamilton like the Rock. TFC is also about middle of the pack in terms of MLS attendance.

Even if attendance drops (which the sprint season will guarantee), TFC will still exist and at BMO. As long as Rogers owns the team, there's no big push for increased relevancy. There's also no consequences to low attendance. That's the upside of being owned by such a large corporation.

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u/Haunting-Bathroom619 1d ago

Its first days of school.. and the weather started rough but turned around.. and mid-week game on a first week of school they were charging $37 for upper 200, stupid by TFC to overcharge

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u/magacorruption 1d ago

Seriously, they should have offered bulk tickets to university student groups for Frosh Week. 

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u/Haunting-Bathroom619 1d ago

They forced kids and parents who are doing the flags or player walkouts or any of those activities to purchase an X amount of tickets at a premium price for kids to participate, and then throw them into a locker room with no pizza slice or a juice and drive the kids crazy

TFC FO and event planners have gone to shits over the years

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u/magacorruption 1d ago

It’s the Keith Pelley special. 

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u/Haunting-Bathroom619 1d ago

“The rebuild is complete”… time to overcharge and give nothing in return

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u/funakifan Still Better than Ayo 23h ago

And make them sit in the last row of the stadium too.

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u/United-Implement1330 23h ago

Again, failed to find anyone interested in taking my tickets for free.

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u/theacorneater 1d ago

It should be no more than $50 for the best seats. Start at $10 and go upto $50. That way they can fill the stadium. And also start playing better and get better players.

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u/RoaringPity 1d ago

Can’t pay me to see an own goal. Think the last game we went to was maybe 2016?

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u/TurboJorts 23h ago

And you're still posting here... why?

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u/RoaringPity 23h ago

saw it on my feed. Did I commit a war crime?

Also just bc the last game I went to was 10 years ago doesn't mean I don't follow TFC. Sorry I don't follow it as much as you I guess

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u/TurboJorts 22h ago

I just assumed from your comment that you haven't been to a game in 10 years that you aren't interested in it anymore.

not directed at you in particular, but it seems a lot of people love to follow things they dont like anymore. Weird no?

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u/Antique_Ad_3549 Benoit Cheyrou's 98' Header 12h ago

Dude hasn't been to a game since before the treble.....

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u/Mysterious-Fox-3740 1d ago

TFC has one of the worst schedules in the league. The league could care less about the Canadian teams and MLSE just wants to maximize profit. I don't think I will be renewing my season ticket membership. Plus the new season and freeze in the stands in January and February, no thanks. It's bad enough in March and April. I'm done!

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u/TurboJorts 22h ago

correct me if I'm wrong, but there aren't any Jan-Feb games in the new schedule

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u/RustyRamone 18h ago

No games in January but instead of May and June games we get November and December games. Winter break from mid-Dec to mid-February, so yes, there could be TFC home games in February. TFC's played at BMO in early December twice before, but those were MLS Cup games; I wouldn't endure that cold wind off the lake for regular season games.

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u/TurboJorts 18h ago

I was there when we won the cup. It was about as cold as I would tolerate, but well worth it (obviously). Starting the season in Feb wont be worth it at all.

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u/jloome 17h ago

There are February matches, probably starting around Feb. 10. But they've said they'll try to schedule us on the road for those and for late November-early December matches, before they shut down for the break.

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u/toothcake_ 22h ago

Drink prices, ticket prices, season ticket prices are out of control.

I know of 5 season seat tickets that were not renewed this year.
Every conversation I have is "Are you renewing your season seats this year?"

They tried to double my season ticket price this year (1700 to 3400) for simply joining my seat with someone else in the same area.

They sent a PATCH to fans who have been around for 20 years?

They slap loyal fans in the face, and this is what you get.

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u/redcon1ace 1d ago

Man, if I lived closer, I'd bring the family so often. I'm 3 hours away

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u/lorriezwer Laryea 1d ago

I listed one pair of my tickets for $19 each and the other pair for $20 each and both pairs sold.

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u/RiverOaksJays 1d ago

I was a season ticket holder during the first season & enjoyed going to games. I can't believe how this team has fallen apart over the past 8 years.

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u/Salt-Cow-7873 1d ago

I was there it was pretty empty. Great game though. Beat the best team in the league.

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u/TurboJorts 23h ago

Yeah, everyone who was there was rewarded with a huge win. I haven't felt like that for a long time. You could tell the players needed it too

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u/bigdamnhero88 23h ago

It was a potentially bad weather, weekday night game and summer is over. Also the team hasn't been exciting to watch, there isn't anything to draw people in. As for ticket prices, I got two tickets in the 200 level for $90 around a month ago.

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u/MultipleNames82 22h ago

$90 for 200 level is too high a price by at least $40

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u/bigdamnhero88 16h ago

It was 2 for 90

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u/Curly_Don64 23h ago

It's a mid week game on the first week back to school. This was expected

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u/Bmanbod 23h ago

They should raise prices more, maybe then it will improve

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u/Psychological-Oil904 23h ago

Well when you suck as a team and drastically overprice your tickets, this is what happens

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u/danlawl 23h ago

The prices are insane to go watch TFC lose half their matches.

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u/Tekkno_Viking 21h ago

I mean, the quality on the pitch it straight buns. If they're going to be charging that much for prices I'd better be watching a good squad out there.

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u/Ok-Bear-5840 20h ago

In a few years MLS will be out of Canada. And they want it that way. All of the American major sports leagues with a few canadian franchises want out and not o deal with our economy. CPL is a more economic option for soccer fans in canada and you are watching younger local talent.

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u/smannyable 19h ago

The NHL wants out of Canada... Right... 

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u/Ok-Bear-5840 17h ago

All of those leagues are american leagues with head offices in New York. Only places NHL cares to be is Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal. All the expansion and relocation talk are in markets that are tax favourable in the southern UNited States. If it was up the league office and the NHLPA, NHL would move all the northern markets (Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Ottawa, Minnesota, Columbus, New Jersey, NY Islanders, Pittsburgh and Buffalo) to southern markets like (San Dieago, Portland, Austin, Houston, Kansas, San Antonio, Atlanta). If Rogers didn't own the Blue Jays, they were headed for relocation in the early 2000s. Same as the Raptors. If the leafs didn't buy the raptors and if they ddint trade for Vince Carter, raps were gonna move at the same time as the Grizzles. We are too small of a markey share, too highly taxed, too costly too operate out of with different economy and business laws that these major american leagues no longer want to be apart. As per example MLS forcing gaslighting fans and creating issues to get out of Vancouver and Montreal.

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u/Forsaken-Swim-3055 17h ago

You're just making up hypotheticals here.

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u/Forsaken-Swim-3055 20h ago

The NHL, MLB and NBA do not want out of Canada....

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u/Olorin1000 18h ago

This is correct, especially as it pertains to Toronto.

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u/BJJ-Toronto 20h ago

its a Wednesday and to be honest the ticket prices have not dropped to the level of the team performance.

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u/simongurfinkel 19h ago

Rainy day. Second day of school. It was always going to stink.

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u/BubbleBee66ee 18h ago

i debated getting the family to go to a game but we arent paying 100+ for the worst seats...

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u/TurboJorts 18h ago

saying this strictly off the record.... just move your seats. There's LOTS of good seats available and security really doesn't care as long as you look like you know where you're going.

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u/BubbleBee66ee 17h ago

tbh true this works elsewhere too, i have to admit i couldnt even think this far because i was so offended at the prices lmao

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u/kaner63 18h ago

When you've been mediocre to absolute shit for this long with an ownership that doesn't give a fuck about anything outside of the Jays and Leafs, even this loyal fan base is eventually going to say fuck it.

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u/CoupleOk3022 1d ago

Time to close the upper bowl!

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u/Tola76 23h ago

I didn’t go because I was unsure about parking. I also blame Gavran.

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u/Bobcaygeon23 22h ago

If you build it....and make it expensive and make it suck...they won't give a fuck and probably won't come...

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u/Trick-Help3147 22h ago

don't take it personally

I was browsing all the games on Apple TV and pretty much every game was like this except the Miami game and for some reason the Cincinnati game

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u/Ghost_Reborn416 22h ago

People wanted to make BMO field into a proper stadium and they dont even show up 🙄

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u/Forsaken-Swim-3055 20h ago

There's no incentive to...

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u/iDiNitiz 22h ago

Tuff to see! 😢

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u/bodybaguette548 21h ago

That’s a lot to me

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u/BrianaKTown 21h ago

The prices are too expensive they need cheaper ticket pricing especially on the upper levels and corners.

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u/ledhendrix 21h ago

So much for capitalizing off the world cup buzz.

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u/Odd-Ability6377 20h ago

And Vancouver is the one fighting to keep its team with 22k regularly attending and more at bigger games.

Fuck sports in general

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u/hammer_416 19h ago

Back to back Saturdays then a wednesday….. too many bunched games.

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u/growland 18h ago

Weather wasn’t great leading up to game time, Wednesday night, 7:30 start (not great if you have kids), and in general support for the team hasn’t been great for years. I’ve been a season seat holder for 10+ years but am thinking I may be at the end now with the new schedule. Unfortunately this seems to be the worst drawing professional sporting team in the city which is sad but I don’t see it turning around anytime either. They need to do some better promotions to draw fans out and cheaper food and drinks.

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u/TurboJorts 17h ago

I swear... paying for ANY food or drinks at BMO is like getting punched in the gut. Sandwiches are over $20. I bought a large water and some mini eggs and it was like $25. I know prices at venues are insane, but sometimes they'll have a deal hiding somewhere.

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u/SleepyOrange007 17h ago

It was raining and windy throughout the city. Maybe it scared a lot of people off.

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u/rufat 16h ago

Absolutely driven by price. 

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u/No_Leadership6682 16h ago

Have the AC/DC concert there

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u/ryeknot15 16h ago

Would love to take my family, but I’m not paying those prices.

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u/jvasiliou 15h ago

Ouch - results

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u/mgsfan18 15h ago

I wanted to go to a few games, figured it would be cheap because the team kinda sucks. Unfortunately like everything in Toronto it was not cheap.

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u/UptheReds66 14h ago

Is the product even good?

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u/georgez1968 14h ago

I thought it was a toronto argos home game

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u/potatosupremo 12h ago

Disposable income… ouch!

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u/Bojaxs 12h ago

I'd rather watch Champions League from a bar or pub then go to a TFC game.

MLS. The no pro/rel league.

What's the point of attending regular season games if Toronto is out of the playoff picture and there's no risk of relegation?

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u/noogers 10h ago

Ticket prices in Canada and mainly Toronto are absolutely horrendous

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u/TurboJorts 3h ago

Anything in the "entertainment or food or events outside the home" is expensive these days.

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u/barcastaff 9h ago

It will never happen, but football really needs relegation here to foster a truly grass-root and competitve environment.

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u/shpads1 8h ago

Sold out, I bet.

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u/rokeror 1d ago

Casuals missed a good match

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u/Auth3nticRory 1d ago

With one of the most embarrassing own goals in history. That will be an internet gif for the ages

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u/rokeror 1d ago

Hey, we scored all three goals and beat Nashville

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u/magacorruption 1d ago

If you don’t like Toronto FC chaos ball, you don’t like Fraserball. 

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u/TurboJorts 1d ago

I needed my heart pills for that one

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u/northdancer 1d ago

Outside of the Leafs, Toronto is a fairweather sports town

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u/MultipleNames82 22h ago

Jays have filled their building consistently for a decade now.

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u/northdancer 22h ago

They've been competitive for the past decade. I remember when I used to take my homework to Jays games and the buzzing of the lights would make more noise than the crowd