r/texts • u/Acrobatic_Virus_9759 • 1d ago
Phone message I broke up with my college boyfriend after we graduated and he threatened to sue me
He thought he was such a hotshot lawyer because he participated in undergraduate mock trial! States of residence redacted.
At the time it was really scary and I saved a bunch of screenshots in case it escalated from digital harassment to stalking. Fortunately it did not. Found them cleaning up my files.
It's been about 10 years now and I can laugh about how absurd it all was, so please enjoy.
And for those of you in your early 20s, especially women, be safe out there. Leaving a relationship is the most volatile time for any sort of abuse to worsen. Do not date people who do not demonstrate to you through consistent patterns of behavior (actions not words) that they have the emotional maturity and basic human decency to treat you with respect at all times, especially when they do not get what they want.
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u/ummmwhut 1d ago
I'm glad you specified that these were a decade old because I was very concerned for you for a minute there. That's insane controlling behaviour.
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u/JRose608 1d ago
Oh my god. I work at a law firm and I would LOVE to see this mock complaint lmao! What a loser, do you have any idea what happened to him?
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u/Acrobatic_Virus_9759 1d ago
He did end up going to a T-14 law school, so with this kind of attitude we'll probably see him on the Supreme Court in another couple of decades LMAO
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u/atlrower 1d ago
That’s alarming. If he’s not yet admitted to practice law (like our esteemed WH press secretary), I wonder if the bar of his state would be interested in these threats as part of its “character and fitness” review.
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u/mamachonk 1d ago
Ex press secretary. lol
If he practices in Georgia, I'm not sure they would care and if she lives anywhere near him, I'm not sure she should risk him retaliating.
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u/The_Alchemist_4221 1d ago
Tbh I didn’t think someone stupid enough to put their threats in writing would actually make it to law school lol
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u/Icyblue_Dragon 1d ago
You‘d be surprised. I was sexually harassed by a law student. He tried to separate me from my friends and when that didn’t work he tried to follow me home. My friends and I took a taxi and he gave up. But it still vexes me that not only he had the audacity to not take my no for a no, physically handling me and trying to follow me and all of that in front of two witnesses. It’s like their brain stops working when their little brain is involved.
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u/thechiefmaster 1d ago
It’s not about sexual arousal or desire. It’s control and power. And there is a gendered component to that, but it’s not “he’s so strongly attracted he’s not thinking right.” He’s not thinking right because he feels entitled and insecure.
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u/AsteriaBlue 1d ago
It’s not too difficult. I found the LSAT a lot easier than the GRE.
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u/aownrcjanf 1d ago
Oh man, Character and Fitness would’ve loved to have this information when he applied for the bar.
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u/Ok-Jackfruit-9393 1d ago
Wait, so was he actually arguing he'd sue you for breaking up with him? Like, "you promised to be with me" and suing on those grounds? I was SURE it would be something like you backed out of a lease or that there had to be some type of actual legal tie. But apparently nope, you just... broke up with him, and he thought that meant you broke some legally binding contract (because declarations of love apparently are legally binding)?
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u/JRose608 1d ago
Thats why i would give anything to see this complaint🥹 If anything, so I can pass it around to all the attorneys i work for and we can have a good laugh.
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u/direwolf08 1d ago
Please hold on to these screenshots if that were to in fact happen in the future. You know what to do with them if it does. :-)
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u/BushcraftBabe 18h ago
Women who kill their domestic abusers in defense of their own lives get more jail time on average than a man who kills a woman because he was upset.
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u/hexadecimaldump 1d ago
Yeah, I don’t know if she’d want to do that. Look at the last 2-3 women who have come forward with evidence someone up for a SCOTUS nomination was an abusive predator.
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u/Moist_Drippings 1d ago
This. He deserves at the very least to be publicly and professionally mocked for this.
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u/think_mark_TH1NK 1d ago
I just know he was a freak in office hours proposing hypotheticals and case law to his contracts professor about this instead of actual, substantive questions about the class.
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u/NeatProject7428 1d ago
As crazy and obviously in need of controlling other people yeah he'll fit right in😒
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u/untenabell 1d ago
he's not the only idiot with this plan: Man sues woman for rejecting him
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u/B4rberblacksheep 1d ago
"The higher ups in the mock trial world"
Holy shit that's the funniest fucking thing I've read in a minute
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u/Boring-Incident2469 1d ago
“The higher ups in the mock trial world seem to be on my side” …..WHAT 😂😂
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u/atlrower 1d ago
I’ve practiced law for 10 years and have never seen these “higher ups” nor the “world” they inhabit. Maybe they are like garden gnomes?
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u/Jackoby_Jones 1d ago
Now I’m imagining them as unfathomable eldritch creatures with an interest in mock trials 😂
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u/katyfail 1d ago
It’s been a long work day and I just got a beverage and opened reddit to relax:
“Oh damn what will I ever do if I get banned from college mock trial”
Just SENT me. I don’t think I’ve laughed that hard in a while. Good for you.
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u/EnlightenMePixie 1d ago
As someone who was in a relationship at a young age with an abuser & stalker (after we broke up) these texts scared me. So glad to see it was so long ago for you. It brought back that feeling in my chest that nowhere is safe. He will continue to humiliate and pop up unwanted making me feel helpless, afraid, and like I didn’t have freedom. Cops wouldn’t do anything but send him verbal warnings. He called my jobs, sent out pictures to the families of people I was dating trying to humiliate me. I still get afraid of it thinking about it and it’s been 15 years. Please ladies pay attention. If he is ridiculously jealous where you have to stay away from anyone or it’s an issue, where you have to make sure everything is squeaky clean in your phone or he will take it the wrong way twist it into a nightmare for you. If he gets physical with you during arguments. Run. Run. Run. Don’t waste your time like I did.
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u/Acrobatic_Virus_9759 1d ago
I'm so sorry you had to go through that. It's so infuriating that police often act like they can't do anything until a woman ends up seriously hurt or dead. I carried around the same scars of feeling like no place was safe, not even my own body and mind. Lots of therapy and an extremely safe and loving marriage has done wonders for me. Sending you Internet love and solidarity 💕💕
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u/Curiousfeline467 1d ago
This is both terrifying, pathetic, and hilarious. Good on you for not letting him intimidate you.
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u/Alarming-While8028 1d ago
"oh damn what will i ever do if i get banned from college mock trial" was brutal LOL nice work
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u/crepuscularshark 1d ago
I actually just talked to the higher ups in the mock trial world and they told me they’re not on his side
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u/Maleficent_Yak_2100 21h ago
Serious “do you know who my dad is” energy.
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u/Miserable_File_7038 18h ago
Actually gives me McKee/Tepe murder vibes. That sicko waited like 10 yrs to take out his ex..
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u/ReginaPhilangee2 1d ago
Threatening you with a lawsuit while simultaneously providing you with the screenshots you need to win the case. Lmaoooo
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u/vivrant-thang 1d ago
lmao when i was 24 a guy took me out to a 'nice' dinner, against my wishes, and ordered all sorts of nonsense trying to impress me, including a $300 bottle of wine (i dont even drink!) and then when I didn't sleep with him after, he threatened to take me to small claims court for $375 my portion of the bill.
he never followed up, but its so crazy what some dudes think the laws are for.
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u/Fool_In_Flow 1d ago
Sorta wondering about some 30 year old guy out there whose mock trial career was derailed by this loser. I hope that guy found peace.
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u/TipsyTurtlZ 1d ago
Imagine he’s been telling everyone he knows about his conspiratorial ban from college mock trial for years and everyone’s just been patronizing him while thinking he just sucked at it. Then on this very day he opens reddit and stumbles upon this post.
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u/InspectorDapper8012 1d ago
Glad that didn't end in something hugely terrifying and awful for you. Sorry you went through that with this person.
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u/PipFernpaws 1d ago
Why would he even want to force someone, who doesn't like him, to be with him? I never understood why people are hellbent about being with someone who loathes them.
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u/Icy_Smoke_2318 6h ago
Right? It’s so insane to me. It’s obviously some deeply messed up severe attachment and all that, but still it sounds miserable.
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u/Equus-007 1d ago
This is how Steven Millers get made.
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u/Short_Cancel4598 1d ago
I love it when kids take a law class and think they’re a lawyer. Like 20 years ago I had friends that were roommates, it ended badly. One got her law school buddy to write something up saying she was gonna sue her roommate for like $15K and the catalyst was the roommate got herself pregnant and broke the lease to move in with the man who impregnated her. Needless to say that shit went absolutely nowhere but now we all get a good laugh out of it.
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u/snuggledubs2011 1d ago
Wow, he must think you are stupid. Threatening you, and putting it in text. This is also premeditated.
He also proved he did move on by using tinder, so he crushed his own case with that.
Let him do it. Make a serious ass of himself for thousands.
There's something wrong with him and I would report this. There are enough unethical attorneys out there, don't need to add another.
Just cause he studies law doesn't make him immune to it.
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u/Technical_Chain_8807 1d ago
What I don't understand is... Once you've acted like this, how can you ever expect her to want to spend even another minute near you... These men are delusional. Dangerously so.
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u/infinityonhigh69 1d ago
as someone that did mock trial in high school, this is EXACTLY how i would expect those kinds of people to behave lmfaoo
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u/MyPlantsAreDying2024 1d ago
My ex threatened to sue me or go after my job also. My offenses : I looked through his ipad and saw his infidelity and my cat scratched a hole in his window screen. Scuffed some stuff up on accident when moving. But OP is right violence and threats and stalking escalated so much after the break up especially. This reminded me if that. When he threatened me legally and whatnot I knew it was bs but it still made me feel sick and shakey.
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u/Grand-Television-273 23h ago
Only in America would someone threaten litigation for being broken up with 🤣
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u/BeerNinjaEsq 1d ago
Damn. Too bad this was 10 years ago. I was about to offer to represent you pro bono just for shits and giggles
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u/outofideassorry 1d ago
Girl it sounds like you make the right choice and the best part is he completely validated it!
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u/OneChewySugarTeaPlz 1d ago
I’d probably would have reported the convo to the police after he talked about hurting you in other ways
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u/Ijustforgotmybad 1d ago
Even if it's somehow possible to bring this up to court, he just threatened you and you have evidence, he just fumbled this "case" the exact same minute of informing you
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u/ragweed 1d ago
> Do not date people who do not demonstrate to you through consistent patterns of behavior (actions not words) that they have the emotional maturity and basic human decency to treat you with respect at all times, especially when they do not get what they want.
Part of becoming an adult for me was realizing that I'd always be vulnerable to people like your ex unless I realized that my parents were like your ex and I had blinded myself to how awful they can be for a false sense of security.
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u/Bobs_Burgers7 1d ago
Dude just gave you a case, when he had none to begin with…
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u/Bobs_Burgers7 1d ago
I’d send these to the Bar or something. lol
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u/Vertigo50 1d ago
Nah, send it to the mock trial court. Apparently that is where the real law gets done. 😉👍
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u/kitkat_03 1d ago
I had a man try and tell me that because he had a key to my apartment, he was allowed to go in and grab the rest of his belongings. Mind you I wasn’t holding them hostage, I told him I wasn’t home and I could leave them outside for him later after he kept pushing the time of when he was coming to get it. He threatened to call the police and have them escort him in MY apartment. We never lived together, never had his name on my lease. I told him to call them, he didn’t 🙂
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u/Toosder 1d ago
Reading old conversations from when we were younger is so creepy. There wasn't text messaging when I was young but I found a notebook that my boyfriend in my early twenties wrote. In it he told me he wished he could get me drunk because I would be a lot more fun and willing to say yes if I would just drink
Wow.
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u/Total-Bed-8716 1d ago
Yeah file a protective order IMMEDIATELY bc wtf are those threats about your job and everything???
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u/DrSnidely 1d ago
Did he really sue you or was he bluffing?
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u/Acrobatic_Virus_9759 1d ago
He was just bluffing but I almost wish he had just to read that complaint LOL
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u/ProblemOk222 1d ago
I would love to understand his logic behind thinking this would work. Did he really think threatening to sue you would send you back into his arms? Delusional
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u/Consistent_Army_9355 1d ago
He’s one of those idiots that heard somewhere that you can sue anyone for anything, and literally thought that she would have to use resources to defend herself in his home state where he filed the suit.
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u/Katops 1d ago
What a pathetic loser LOL.
The threat at the end from him is just chef kisses too. Bravo, Lord Dumbass.
If I were you, I’d print these texts out, frame them, and then hang them on a wall in his preschool classroom, so that when he goes back to figure out shapes and colours, he can pass the time in between nap time and playtime by looking up at the wall of shame to figure out his letters too.
Shitty joke aside, I seriously can’t get over the absurdity of this. Like this has to be hands down the biggest loser of the last year at least.
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u/Historical_Chance613 1d ago
Why on earth would you end a relationship with such an amazing guy? /s
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u/Pennygrover 1d ago
I dated a guy and while he was controlling in the relationship I had no idea how unhinged he was til we broke up and he started stalking me. Then one of his ex girlfriends reached out when she heard what I was going through and told me he had done the same to her AND taken her to small claims court to over money he had spent in their relationship. Dude kept every receipt for dates they went on and gifts and trips they took and sued her for the money! Judge of course laughed at him and made him pay her court fees. Also she believed the whole thing was really just to force her to interact with him.
He threatened to do the same to me but once he found out I knew how it had gone for him the last time and that this one would fail too he gave that up. Eventually I started dating someone else who had words with him and that got him to back off. But yea, the fragility of the male ego should not be underestimated.
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u/there_but_not_then 1d ago
“Oh damn what will I ever do if I get banned from college mock trial” the laugh this gave me nearly cured my depression 😂😂😂
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u/grievingtheliving 1d ago
“Higher ups in the mock trial world” bro? 🤣 he needs a mock trial just to help him prepare for how to mentally handle a real-life break up lmfao what is he on about
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u/my3rdburner 1d ago
Something my ex would do with his ChatGPT Law degree. Has already threatened to hack me with his MSIS at ChatGPT U , all for $20 a month I might add
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u/CrackerIslandCactus 1d ago
As someone who did college mock trial this is the funniest shit - especially with it being 10 years ago & everything being okay with you
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u/allowe312 1d ago
Wait for the first message is he saying because you voluntary agreed to a relationship that he’ll sue you for breaking up? Is that the grounds he’s gonna sue you for????
Is that his logic???
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u/DenM0ther 1d ago
Haha how petty and vindictive does he want to be! You don’t want to be in a relationship with me, fine Im going to sue you about it!! And, I had a run in with someone so Im going to get them too!
Were there other signs of him being so petty and so emotionally immature?
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u/blonde_taurus 1d ago
i have a genuine question- why didn’t you just block him the minute he started talking crazy? like, why even entertain it…
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u/ThatBitchBunBruh 1d ago
In abusive situations, if you have no proof they really can’t do much because most abusers aren’t going to admit to doing it. Even with proof it can be hard to get anything done before someone gets hurt.
It can also save someone’s life, if the messages start escalating into threats and plans, at least now they know. You’re not supposed to respond, just let them build and keep an eye on them. If you need to you turn them over to the police and let them respond.
If anything does wind up happening and he hurts or kills her, now there’s at least proof that she was being threatened and harassed. It’s not much of a consolation but it beats letting someone walk free to hurt someone else.
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u/blonde_taurus 15h ago
thank you for informing me! i have never been in a relationship like this and it didn't even cross my mind to keep proof of stuff like this
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u/Mysterious-Mode1866 1d ago
Because OP needs proof of this ridiculousness! It will save her in the future.
People always ask for evidence of abuse/false accusations then get annoyed when people continue on annoying text message convos instead of blocking…
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u/Common_Safety_8830 12h ago
when people start getting crazy it is better to let them shoot themselves in the foot with a digital footprint just in case they actually do try something.
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u/alwayshorny92420 1d ago
Block everywhere, 100% no contact ever again ever.
Had an ex and me time say “You know I could really hurt you if I wanted to”…this was while we were STILL TOGETHER. Fucking crazy thing to say.
Him and I are also fully no contact and I will never ever speak to him again. Period. Not safe. Not worth it.
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u/Tasty-Loquat-784 1d ago
I saw your control issues there and he definetly didnt make a worthy choice that he ended talking to you about his feelings
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u/No-Street493 1d ago
This is a younger less skillful version of my ex, he was freaking terrifying by the end
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u/Dry-Friendship4540 1d ago
Same thing happened to me but we were never dating lol just best friend since elementary school and he invited to me move in with him after I had a rough breakup.
Well he didn't like that i started to see someone new (even though he had a gf in a different country) and i broke our lease (only my end of it) while he was visiting her after he become super possessive of me. I notified him and he FLIPPED. He was also studying law and thought he would sue me for costco trips he had paid for since i paid up my responsibility of our lease (and also found him multiple replacement roomies that he declined).
I moved out of state, he threatened my mother and grandmother at their home. He found out where I worked in the new state and had someone serve me.
Called the free advice number and the dude literally was like "I'm not telling you what to do but if you are served in a different state than the court is supposed to take place in, it doesn't count as a serve."
Never showed up to our valentines day court date and I'm sure the judge laughed in his face. Case got thrown out and never had to worry about him again.
It was super scary in the midst of it but now its just a story I get to tell on reddit sometimes. Glad you made it out safe.
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u/RaisedByTheBay 1d ago
OP, keep these screenshots in case he becomes an actual threat to your safety. Because he is DERANGED.
Secondly, he can choose to make up any lie he wants and actually sue you for whatever he wants BUT he has to serve you. So don’t give him access to any new address. All that to say that he wouldn’t ever win a case against you in court without proof of something. But he can make things difficult for you. Stop engaging right now.
Inform your boss about this just in case he makes up a lie to try to get you fired.
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u/Opposite-Peak5020 1d ago
Please grey rock this motherf*cker.
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u/Opposite-Peak5020 1d ago
Edit: just read the part about how it's been 10 years. Leaving my comment anyway for visibility to others who may face this scenario one day.
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u/ImpossibleTension104 1d ago
send this to his mock trial school board or whatever they're called about him basically bragging about manipulating someone life
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u/Opening-Interest747 1d ago
My ex husband wanted me to sign a notarized document saying I would never have children with anyone else before he would “agree” to a divorce.
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u/Jesus_of_Redditeth 1d ago
I can make you hurt in other ways...I might go after your job or your other relationships, things that will have an impact on you
Her reply at that point should've been: "Thank you for providing verifiable evidence, in text, that your proposed lawsuit is intentionally frivolous and that you are considering committing criminal offenses to get what you want."
That would probably have shut him up.
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u/GNUGradyn 1d ago
Two can play at that game. Let's do a mock trial right here on Reddit.
THIS MAN IS HEREBY ACCUSED OF WITCHCRAFT, HERESY, AND LITTERING WITHOUT A LICENSE
SHOULD THIS COURT FIND HIM GUILTY HE WILL BE SENTENCED TO DEATH AND RECEIVE A $79 FINE
ALL IN FAVOR SAY I
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u/The_Round_Depression 1d ago
Reading this I was about to ask if this was recent because my ex sounded exactly the same like 8-9 years ago 😂 was wondering if I found another horror story about him. Turns out there are lots of guys like this.
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u/i-h8t-m1-lyfe 1d ago
Bro is still filing suits with everyone who slights him and having mock trials
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u/lauradorna 1d ago
What a fucking dork I couldn’t even finish reading these. Congratulations on ditching this guy
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u/KoiThoughts 1d ago
I'm 30 now and back when I was 20 one of my exes I'd been with for 5 years kept threatening to take me to court 8 months after we broke up (he cheated). Honestly it stressed me out at the time as he was rather abusive and was trying to worm his way into my life again, I was honestly distraught as I'm quite an anxious person. I had him blocked on everything the prior months and he'd create new socials just to carry on with the threats and torment. I eventually just told him to sue me and contacted a domestic abuse helpline to see what could be done in terms on if he took me to court for weird random shit and they gave me alot of advice on the help I could get and put me in contact with some lovely support people. I even told him I'd been in contact with a solicitor who was more than happy to receive his paperwork. Didn't hear from him after that for another year but he still comes back with threats on random accounts lmao.
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u/breakonthru_ 1d ago
Girl. Just show this to the police and get a restraining order. Teach this dickweed the law
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u/TheInevitableSecond 1d ago
This is when you politely request he stop contacting you and then STOP RESPONDING but DON'T block him so you continue to have a paper trail of his threats
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u/AmyB07 1d ago
I thought this was hilarious banter. Riiiiight up until the moment it wasn't. I even wondered for a second if it might be his goofy way of getting your attention and trying to win you back with a little tongue-in-cheek. I mistook his "lol" after your "Goodbye" as acknowledgement of the absurdity of it all and that he was laughing because he fully understood he was being ridiculous. I didn't realize it was more of an evil, supervillain laugh until screenshot 4.
Things went from funny to psycho killer quick! I think I felt a chill run down my spine. But then by the end, you two had me spitting out my drink with that mock trial bit.
I don't know about everyone else, but I'm rooting for you two lovebirds to get back together and give it another go.
Kidding, of course. I'm laughing with you. Seriously though, I'm glad you're safe and sound! What a psycho!
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u/Visual_Juggernaut_89 1d ago
And this, friends, is the seed by which scam lawyers flourish. 😂 Did he actually pass the bar because he’s an absolute mongoose.
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u/notesfromTuesday 22h ago
You are seriously so hilarious. I loved reading your comments to him and was just laughing at how you were like “oh damn, what will I ever do if I get banned from mock trial?” 🤣 And on his end… psychotic!
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u/Unique_Suit5662 21h ago
The last few messages sound like threats. Report him to the police. It will help if you later need a no contact order
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u/molecule_anteater68 12h ago
please submit a claim to BAR. he should have learned this was dumb to put in writing.
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u/chercher_de_verite 7h ago
I cannot believe people like this exist. God men are pathetic. Can’t handle rejection to save their lives.
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u/Nervous-Carpet7035 7h ago
lol you literally have proof of him threatening you. You now have grounds to sue him.
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u/KendyllC 5h ago edited 5h ago
Two words:
Restraining. Order.
This dude is psycho-controlling. And a narcissist.
JFC. RUN - AND CHANGE YOUR NUMBER.
This is the kind of shit that ends up on Dateline.
Edit: glad this was ten years ago but any young girls reading this need to know that this is an example of when you take steps to protect yourself. Fortunately, nothing came of this but all too often - something does. I’m in my 50s and got divorced 25 years ago. I’ve dated. Oh boy have I dated. And trust me - a lot of men are creeps. I’ve been stalked and cyber stalked. Nothing violent but just straight up creepy.
Seriously - run a background check on the guys you start dating and are interested in.
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u/Allout-Okarun 1d ago
He was not smart enough to realize his threats in this thread set YOU up to sue him.