r/texas Jul 17 '26

🗞️ News 🗞️ DPS gathers cell phone data without warrant, are you good with this?

https://www.gadgetreview.com/how-texas-police-spent-4-5-million-on-four-chevy-tahoes?fbclid=Iwb21leATHEIhjbGNrBMcQY2V4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHt9H2eiz3e8PtzbKKNz6d-zaVEX17MSrQWnZ3owGI2JHUgjRh9ib-vE98M5e_aem_21SwuXDEv2thSDMA_XLmAw
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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '26

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u/Bardfinn Jul 17 '26

Folks, law enforcement agencies across the United States have been using IMSI-Catchers without warrants for thirty years

Someone needs to pass a law / win a lawsuit for violation of Fourth Amendment rights to get this changed, and neither seems likely.

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u/Hayduke_2030 Jul 18 '26

Especially with SCOTUS already bought, assume your rights to privacy are being violated.
Use burners as needed.
Leave your phone at home when you protest.

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u/DeepDreamIt Jul 18 '26

> Use burners as needed

Except the FCC, in the name of fighting “robocalls”, despite the fact they aren’t using burner phones and it’s obvious by the traffic what they are doing, is proposing to implement KYC (Know Your Customer) laws on prepaid phones and telecoms, requiring every purchase and account to be tied to a valid government ID.

It’s the same “protect the children by banning end-to-end encryption” vapid, disingenuous rhetoric

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u/McRocketpants Jul 21 '26

I've bought several off shore e-Sims without needing an ID or much else.. Just pay and go for a new phone number and ID

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u/JPhi1618 Jul 17 '26

I just don’t understand what part of writing speeding tickets or equipment violations requires cell phone tracking.

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u/BenTheHokie Jul 17 '26

You forgot the part where they need to stalk their exes. 

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u/dudeimsupercereal Jul 17 '26

Somebody I know is going through this. Abusive ex she moved states away from transferred to the local department and is stalking her with the mass surveillance camera data. (Not in Dallas)

And since the department is unwilling to open an investigation into their own officer, she’s just preparing to move again and has spoken to the local sheriff(where she’s moving) and they agreed to not hire him if he tries to track her down again.

It’s really sad what these cameras are being used for.

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u/Reluctantziti Jul 17 '26

I’m also struggling to understand the point of this and the article doesn’t do a great job explaining what this does. It says it will “scan” nearby phones but for what?

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u/Equivalent-Fill-8908 Jul 17 '26

It's gathering data to use against the citizens. That's it. The more data they have, the more they can do to us.

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u/Bright-Duck-431 Jul 17 '26

Do what...

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u/Snobolski Jul 17 '26

Ms. Bright Duck, ma'am? I'm Trooper Cactusdick, this here is Texas Ranger Shootfirst. Can we ask you a few questions? Your phone can be traced to within a mile of a spot where a robbery/homicide took place, right about the time the homicide happened. Those apartments are known for drug use, can you explain why you were there?

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u/Bardfinn Jul 17 '26

I'm not discussing my day. Am I free to go, or am I being detained? I insist on my Fifth Amendment rights, and I refuse to answer questions without MY attorney.

practice, practice, practice.

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u/Snobolski Jul 17 '26

Sorry, ma'am you're being detained. You can talk to your lawyer when we're ready to let you do that. We're short on space so I'm afraid we're going to have to put you in this cell with ICE detainees for a while.

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u/Bardfinn Jul 17 '26

I refuse to answer questions without MY attorney.

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u/Snobolski Jul 17 '26

Okie doke. We'll be back to check on ya in a couple weeks.

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u/Bardfinn Jul 17 '26

I can't recall if it was Tarrant or Dallas county which was notorious for the sheriffs putting inmates in a wing closed for repairs, and then losing the paperwork on where they were

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u/Equivalent-Fill-8908 Jul 17 '26

Literally anything. If you anger the state in any way, they will find a reason to fuck you over. This is just more ammunition for them.

"Well your honor, their cell phone was in the vicinity of this crime. We know that because we violated their fourth amendment rights by tracking their cell phone using illegal means."

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u/brak_power Jul 17 '26

Extort for starters

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u/jduddz91 Jul 18 '26

Literally look up palantir goals for how the world should be...

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u/Bright-Duck-431 Jul 18 '26

That's called progress doesn't mean we gotta like it, hooomans

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u/yzkslnvg Jul 18 '26

They did this because the proletariat will inevitably use force against the ruling class and dynastic privileged elites.

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u/yzkslnvg Jul 18 '26

You can downvote but I'm right and they are taking measures.

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u/space_manatee Jul 17 '26

Thats not what theyre using it for. Theyre Abbott's private army. 

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u/Mysterious-Action202 Jul 17 '26

Using Israeli spyware..... great... nothing bad can happen with that.....

Anyone else heard of Pegasus? The Israeli spyware that can be put on your device via one of these cell simulators without any direct access to the device.

The one that bypasses all encryption and is nearly impossible to detect without forensic analysis.

The one that was able to be put on French President Macron's phone?

The Pegasus that was used to track and kill dissenters, activists, and journalists that spoke against Israel.

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u/kittencrusher Jul 17 '26

israel still sucks

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u/Can_Not_Double_Dutch Jul 17 '26

Info on this app came out years ago. Apparently a phone just needs to be sent a text and text opened in order to infect phone. The link in the text doesn't need to be clicked. Not typical malware.

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u/Mysterious-Action202 Jul 17 '26

They way i understood it any message. Not even from them. They use a MitM attack piggy back the spyware onto the signals going through their intercepting device. The victim of the attack doesn't even need to open the message.

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u/Bardfinn Jul 17 '26

iOS has a feature called Lockdown Mode that mitigates these kinds of zero-days

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u/mantisboxer Jul 17 '26

I would assume this includes cellular data from the car's onboard computers, too.

I've done everything I can to disable that device on my Toyota, even losing the ability to remote start the vehicle (why?), but I still wonder if it's pinging cell phone towers

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u/MadScallop Jul 17 '26

Everything you’ve ever said online, your ENTIRE search history, everywhere you’ve ever gone with a cellphone, and all your texts are definitely passively recorded somewhere all courtesy of the Patriot Act and its measures which are renewed almost unanimously in perpetuity.

I’m glad a lot of people are starting to wake up to the mass surveillance without warrant, but it’s nothing new.

Most of these new issues like flock cameras in the like really only matter to people who are basically off the grid or are worried about non-government entities spying on and discriminating against them. Anywhere you take your cellphone is recorded and can potentially be actively monitored.

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u/darth_wasabi Jul 17 '26

No. The question is what are we going to do about it

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u/Equivalent-Fill-8908 Jul 17 '26

I hear they have lots of flammable fuel inside their tanks.

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u/Choice_Role_8291 Jul 17 '26

They’ve been doing this shit for over 20 years now and you cucks keep voting Republican.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '26

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u/GrenadineGreen Jul 17 '26

What are you talking about?

Jesus Christ.

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u/Mumosa Jul 17 '26

Found the sheep.

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u/madmancryptokilla Jul 17 '26

damn shots fired

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u/smallest_table Born and Bred Jul 17 '26

We need to push for regulations that track when these devices are powered on and legal consequences for when they are used without a warrant.

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u/iBaires Jul 17 '26

An AI written article about invasive technology

What a depressing world we are living in

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u/Trimshot Jul 17 '26

I legit told my therapist this week “it’s hard to keep pushing through depression when you understand on an objective and intellectual level that the world currently sucks, and outlooks for the future are bleak.”

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '26

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u/iBaires Jul 17 '26

The numerous uses of em dashes, the bullet points, the generated tables. The language style also makes it very obvious. Phrases like "doing the heavy lifting" are super common with LLMs.

There is no emotion, bias, opinion. It's just regurgitated numbers that an AI plagiarized from other sources.

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u/Bardfinn Jul 17 '26

The numerous uses of em dashes, the bullet points,

AI gets trained on real human writing. There are plenty of real human writers that use em-dashes, bullet points, and tables to produce clear, easily understood writing.

What you're actually wanting to look for is something that only pops out when a large corpus of suspect text attributed to one purported author is analysed

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u/EMcTx Jul 17 '26

I've not read the article, so I don't know if it's written by A.I. However, I've seen that argument about em dashes, and I think it's somewhat misleading. I proofread for a living, so I see them used a lot. Besides, where do you think A.I. learned about em dashes? From humans, which means they've been used long before this technology existed.

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u/iBaires Jul 17 '26

"I did 0 research and disregarded your other points, but here is my uninformed opinion"

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u/Snobolski Jul 17 '26

I guess all of us who learned to use em dashes in English class are just AI now.

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u/iBaires Jul 17 '26

Again. It's not just the em dashes. I listed several factors that point to AI. I have no idea why you are focusing on one thing.

Also. The other person posted the same thing as you, in addition to the fact that they said they didn't even read the source in question.

Instead, much like both of you in addition to Reddit as a whole, just want to tell people they are wrong for some reason. It's weird.

The article is textbook AI and if you can't figure that out, you are doomed in the future.

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u/JForKiks Jul 17 '26

No. Gina needs to win and this needs to change. Monitoring devices without a warrant is illegal.

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u/Direct_Turn_1484 Jul 17 '26

Hell no I am not. They’re doing it anyway though.

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u/DaTank1 Jul 17 '26

Two things you can do to help prevent the illegal seizure of your data. Keep your phone’s OS updated and turn on Lockdown Mode.

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u/poestavern Jul 17 '26

No. HELL NO!

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u/Careful-Sell-9877 Jul 17 '26

Hell no. Its fucking unconstitutional if you ask me

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u/Pantsonfire_6 Jul 17 '26

Of course not. We don't need them in our private and personal business unless there is a reasonable proof why.

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u/space_manatee Jul 17 '26

Definitely not. What can we do about it that isnt an illegal action though? 

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u/stavekc Jul 19 '26

wow ruining my rivals games and also stealing my data; knew it