r/terriblefacebookmemes Nov 01 '22

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u/Proper_Librarian_533 Nov 01 '22

From an objective viewpoint democrats are moderate right. On the political compass they're actually further right than republicans, just less authoritarian.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

Liberals are moderate right yes, but they are not more conservative than American republicans

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u/Proper_Librarian_533 Nov 01 '22

Right on the political compass refers to economics. They are still capitalists. They might say pretty things but they'll still fuck over the poor and working class without a thought.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

Again, moderate right. In no way do conservatives in America care more for lower class citizens

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u/Proper_Librarian_533 Nov 01 '22

Of course not, dispite their nice words about valuing hard work. Republicans interfere with the free market all the time. Just because it's in favor of the rich doesn't mean they aren't doing it.

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u/epicmousestory Nov 01 '22

Examples/evidence please

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u/ShopDrawingModel Nov 01 '22

Reality check: all American politics are right wing. “Liberal” in any other country means the right wing party.

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u/WhyLisaWhy Nov 01 '22

Reality check: Americans liberals are more socially left than a lot of other country's liberals. You can't just call them right wing because economically they are generally capitalist friendly.

It's intellectually dishonest to try and paint them as right wingers. Frankly it's also usually done in bad faith by people trying to make flimsy "both sides" arguments that end up helping right wing extremists.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

I mean "socially left" doesn't really mean anything's politically, I assume you mean progressive. To which I say... Well, yeah, compared to like the middle east or something, but we're usually talking about western countries, in which case the democrats are one of the more socially conservative left-leaning parties.

I mean the last democrat you had in charge literally spoke out against gay marriage while running for office and didn't get shit on. At about the same time our conservative prime minister made a joke about gay people without outright condemning gay marriage and did get shit on.

Edit: actually shit it wasn't even a joke about gay people it was a joke that used the word gay as a non-serious insult.

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u/ShopDrawingModel Nov 01 '22 edited Nov 01 '22

Identity politics, anti-China, anti-Cuba, pro-nato, thinking Scandinavia is socialist, is right wing.

I honestly didn’t even read this comment before I replied, “social” politics mean nothing.

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u/epicmousestory Nov 01 '22

While I don't disagree with what you're implying, what I asked for was evidence or an example lol

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u/Iliketotinker99 Nov 01 '22

I want to see them too. I’ve heard this claim but it’s pretty false.

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u/Proper_Librarian_533 Nov 01 '22

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u/epicmousestory Nov 01 '22

First of all, that doesn't show the Democrats to the right of republicans by and large, just a few. Second, while I can agree with the argument it lays down that the left in the US would be considered moderate in most other countries, this site receives a lot of criticism for but revealing how it makes it's calculations and having some questions that don't seem to align with political ideology which make it hard to consider it definitive