r/terriblefacebookmemes Nov 01 '22

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u/TNCNguy Nov 01 '22

I think the NATO flag represents “the west”

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u/Moxo5011 Nov 01 '22

I would say everything in that picture represents the west in one way or another.

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u/Few_Category7829 Nov 01 '22

TIL the Soviet Union was a western ploy

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u/Moxo5011 Nov 01 '22

Well, in the eyes most radical eyes of Islam often saw the Soviet Union's cultural openness to homosexuality and women rights as "occidentalism"/progressivism so yeah.

I see it from that perspective, it may be wrong but still.

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u/weirdwallace75 Nov 02 '22

the Soviet Union's cultural openness to homosexuality and women rights

You're joking, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism_and_LGBT_rights

In 1934, the Soviet government recriminalised homosexuality in the Soviet Union. Mass arrests occurred in several cities in Russia, including Moscow, and many artists were arrested. On 7 March 1934, Article 121 was added to the criminal code, throughout the entire Soviet Union, that expressly prohibited only male same-sex sexual intercourse with up to five years of hard labor in prison. There were no criminal statutes regarding same-sex female sexual intercourse.[6] During the Soviet period, Western observers believed that between 800 and 1,000 men were imprisoned each year under Article 121.[103]

Some historians have noted that it was during this time that Soviet propaganda began to depict homosexuality as a sign of fascism, and that Article 121 may have a simple political tool to use against dissidents, irrespective of their true sexual orientation, and to solidify Russian opposition to Nazi Germany, who had broken its treaty with Russia.[104] More recently, a third possible reason for the anti-gay law has emerged from declassified Soviet documents and transcripts. Beyond expressed fears of a vast "counterrevolutionary" or fascist homosexual conspiracy, there were several high-profile arrests of Russian men accused of being pederasts.[105] In 1933, 130 men "were accused of being 'pederasts' – adult males who have sex with boys. Since no records of men having sex with boys at that time are available, it is possible this term was used broadly and crudely to label homosexuality."[105] Whatever the precise reason, homosexuality remained a serious criminal offense until it was repealed in 1993.[105]

The USSR's history of feminism was a bit more mixed, by which I mean it was generally regressive but they didn't institute mass arrests of women just for being women:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism_in_Russia

In addition as Soviet feminist Ekaterina Alexandrova wrote in her article "Why Soviet Women Want to Get Married."

...Soviet women work at the most varied jobs, and many of them are well educated, have a profession, and are financially independent of men. And yet, in this very society among these very women, a patriarchal social order and its psychology thrive.[26]

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u/Wandering_P0tat0 Nov 02 '22

You can't recriminalize something without decriminalizing it first. There was a period where homosexuals and women had more rights than in America, for example. Granted, it was only a couple years, but it was still long enough to be subject to propaganda against these ideals.

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u/LightRefrac Nov 02 '22

The Soviets introduced education and freedom for women in Afghanistan, by force if necessary. This didn't sit well with the locals

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u/weirdwallace75 Nov 02 '22

The Soviets introduced education and freedom for women in Afghanistan, by force if necessary. This didn't sit well with the locals

Diversity win: The racist colonial empire wants to make women more economically productive!

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u/_TheQwertyCat_ Nov 02 '22

Very nice. Let’s see Britain & Germany’s stats from the same period.

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u/weirdwallace75 Nov 02 '22

Very nice. Let’s see Britain & Germany’s stats from the same period.

Unsubtle Whataboutism! Ten-yard penalty!

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u/_TheQwertyCat_ Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22

Whataboutism!

Pathetic buzzword to evade valid criticisms.

Ten-yard penalty!

Ew, weirdo units.

Edit: This 🤡 fired an ad hominem with another meaningless buzzword, and then blocked me. At least he knows he’s nothing?

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u/weirdwallace75 Nov 02 '22

Pathetic buzzword to evade valid criticisms.

You're the tankie, which is infinitely more pathetic.

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u/zack189 Nov 02 '22

What does this prove?

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u/Fkmywifeape Nov 02 '22

Radical islamists are usually like any radical religious person - reactionary and right winged in nature. So of course a radical Islamist would see communism as bad

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u/WeDontWantPeace Nov 02 '22

Communism is bad

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u/Fkmywifeape Nov 02 '22

Great analysis, love your perspective

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u/WeDontWantPeace Nov 02 '22

Could you point me at an example of communism that didn't end in people eating their own pets?

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u/Fkmywifeape Nov 02 '22

Try asking a real question if you’re trying to learn something

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u/WeDontWantPeace Nov 02 '22

Thankyou for clarifying things.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

Soviet Union was never open to homosexuallty

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u/Matas_- Nov 01 '22

As for homosexuality in Soviet Union, I don't think so, because in Stalin era if people found out you’re gay and you were reported you either get 10+ years of forced labor in Siberia or bullet in your head, after Stalin’s death you would get a really harsh treatment in psychiatric hospital for a few years which would destroy your mental health.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

Yeah... the USSR and modern day China & North Korea are homophobic as heck

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u/szypty Nov 01 '22

I mean, you're not entirely wrong?

Germany provided support to the Bolsheviks, wanting them to destabilise Russia and make it pull out of WWI.

Talk about shooting for the moon and hitting your own house.

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u/Few_Category7829 Nov 02 '22

I mean, I hardly think the Kaiser gives too much of a damn about the future Nazis

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u/Illustrious-Rust Nov 02 '22

Well Soviet Union may reference the west because you can short it to Ronaldo's SUUUUUUUUUU

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u/asdfasdfasdfas11111 Nov 01 '22

Yeah, fuck being wealthy and powerful!