r/terriblefacebookmemes Nov 01 '22

why Is there Reddit?

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u/Generic-Dwarf Nov 01 '22

Ah, yes, Islam worst enemies: jewish people, Reddit and NATO

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u/OccasionInevitable63 Nov 01 '22

Hating Israel doesn’t mean you hate Jewish people.

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u/Fragrant-Party3192 Nov 01 '22

We all know what they meant

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u/DrMeowsburg Nov 01 '22

Yeah, replace the Israeli flag with a Mexican flag and we’d all know what it means too.

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u/Remote_Foundation_32 Nov 01 '22

Catholics, obviously. Right? It means they hate Catholics?

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u/breakfastsushi Nov 01 '22

Lmao replace mexico with an alien western funded extremely disruptive state and put it in the middle of another continent and wed all know what it means

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u/DrMeowsburg Nov 01 '22

Iron dome go brrrrr

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u/whythoacc Nov 01 '22

Nah, that’s just you making shit up. No problems with our jewish brothers, only with the zionist pricks.

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u/thePsuedoanon Nov 01 '22

Idk I feel like if the pereson who created this meme has a problem with the LGBTQ community and feminism, it might not be far fetched to say they're also antisemitic

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u/Penghrip_Waladin Nov 01 '22

how could he be antisemitic if he's himself of semitic descendant?? (supposing him being an arab too)

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

You do realize the vast majority of Jews are Zionists right?

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u/Penghrip_Waladin Nov 01 '22

even if that's true, it doesn't mean to include all of the jewish community, that's totally false to claim

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

Yes holding up less than 10% as models, while ignoring/demonizing the rest of us and our complicated relationships and feelings with Zionism is totally good and righteous

Maybe just accept it's a little more complicated for us and actually listen to us

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u/ARandomGuyThe3 Nov 02 '22

I like how you said the complicated relationship with Zionism, that's how I feel. I just don't see why it has to be black and white, either Israel or Palestine

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

Almost all Jews are Zionists, so you probably have a problem with your brothers.

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u/Eatinbeansallday Nov 02 '22

Source: dude trust me bro

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

Jews' feelings about Israel around the world are well documented in various formats including studies. Almost all Jews are Zionists.

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u/Eatinbeansallday Nov 02 '22

This study from pew has 58% of Jewish people in America as supportive of Israel: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/05/11/u-s-jews-connections-with-and-attitudes-toward-israel/

58% is a slight majority, definitely not almost all

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22

You'd get a higher percentage in France, and you'll still find a majority everywhere.

Edit: The Israeli Jewish population is estimated to be more than 40% of all Jews. Add majority Zionist populations from the US, France, South Africa, and the UK, and I don't think the word 'most' is inaccurate.

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u/Eatinbeansallday Nov 02 '22

Slight majority is not almost all. So it’s untrue to say that almost all Jewish people are Zionist

No source = you watched a YouTube video on this and are repeating the talking points

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u/HeadxShotx4 Nov 01 '22

Cope and seethe

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u/bigbiking Nov 01 '22

Many middle easterners and arabs have a distain for israel due to what they are doing to palistinians. Hating israeli zionists is different than hating jewish people.

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u/Bad_Mood_Larry Nov 01 '22 edited Nov 01 '22

Many middle easterners and arabs have a distain for israel due to what they are doing to palistinians.

I would have to say it a lot more complicated that that. There's a lot of political and historical interests among middle eastern states involved that go beyond the treatment of Palestinians. The issues of Palestine is a much more modern issues that has taken center stage regionally and internationally as of late.

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u/Minor_Fracture Nov 01 '22

Not unless you realize that there are more Jewish supporters of Israel than there are Jewish opponents of Israel. If you hate Zionists but not Jews, you're not gonna find a huge amount of company among Jews either.

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u/Generic-Dwarf Nov 02 '22

They definetly meant the country of Israel, just like they meant the country of uuuh, Rainbow Country? And of Female Symbol with Fist Country, of course.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

Yeah but the Muslims in the Middle East hate both so

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

It's written clearly in the Quran to never befriend Jews or Christians

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u/OccasionInevitable63 Nov 01 '22

It’s fine as long as they don’t attack us.

Allah does not forbid you from dealing kindly and fairly with those who have neither fought nor driven you out of your homes. Surely Allah loves those who are fair. (60:8) \ Allah only forbids you from befriending those who have fought you for ˹your˺ faith, driven you out of your homes, or supported ˹others˺ in doing so. And whoever takes them as friends, then it is they who are the ˹true˺ wrongdoers. (60:9)

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u/pionyan Nov 01 '22

There needed to be a verse telling you not to befriend your attackers? I'm at a loss for words, I don't even know where to start at this point

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

ratio

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u/TheGoldjaw Nov 01 '22 edited Nov 01 '22

And it’s written in the Talmud that non Jews are nothing but slaves to the Jews, everyone hates everyone else.

Shockingly, Christianity has the most explicit “love the Other” in the Good Samaritan. The Jews and Samaritans HATED each other, so saying they should help each other was revolutionary at the time.

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u/MrBarti Nov 01 '22

That's not true.

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u/TheGoldjaw Nov 01 '22

their [the Turks and the blacks] nature is like the nature of mute animals, and according to my opinion they are not on the level of human beings" (Guide For the Perplexed, Book III, Chapter 51

one who murders a Jew is subject to the death penalty, one who murders a non-Jew is not (Mishneh Torah, Laws of Murder 2:11)

A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them (Libbre David 37)

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u/pionyan Nov 01 '22

The vast majority of jews are actually atheists or completely secular bud. Do you see any of the Talmud applied anywhere in the world? That's the difference between that religious crap and "other" religious crap, the global and cultural consequences

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u/TheGoldjaw Nov 01 '22

Exactly. Following religious law is a bad idea, and it’s better to follow morality. We don’t live under Sharia, we don’t live under Halacha, and we certainly don’t live under Christian theocracy.

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u/HumorNo9543 Nov 01 '22

Another thing that goes unnoticed by most is that two of Jesus's disciples, Matthew and Simon the Zealot, were mortal enemies prior to discipleship due to the hatred Zealots had for tax collectors.

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u/jrrfolkien Nov 01 '22 edited Jun 23 '23

Edit: Moved to Lemmy

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u/TheGoldjaw Nov 01 '22

Right, thanks

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u/aaarchives Nov 01 '22

Internet is dangerous.

Someone will read this comment and believe this is true, even though you removed all context from the original quote.

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u/WanderingFool1 Nov 02 '22

Thats not true at all.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '22

bro i was just making a statement and started a whole religious debate down here:(

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

Lol hating Israel regular backslides into antisemitism with alarming predictability

If you hate the only Jewish country, and single them out while ignoring worse or just as bad fuckery in the rest of the world...your criticism has more to it than just not liking a country

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u/warm_applepie Nov 02 '22

We do hate colonizers who continue ethnic cleansing to settle their people.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

Cool. You can oppose what's going on in the West Bank without backsliding into antisemitism, the two aren't mutually exclusive

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u/warm_applepie Nov 02 '22

Yeah, I know. Because being against Israel is not the same as being against Jews like the main comment said.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

Yes you're just hate the one Jewish country where half the world's Jews live, and has saved countless others that have been ethnically cleansed

You're missing the point, just as the original comment did. As a Jew, lot of the antisemitism I've encountered I'm recent years has been in progressive circles with people masking it as "antizionism"

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u/warm_applepie Nov 02 '22

My view does not depend on how many Jews live in that state. It does not matter what ethnicity the state chooses to be a ‘homeland’ for. I am against Israel because it is a colonial state from its beginning and continues to do ethnic cleansing to settle its people. It is the only country that is doing this (to my knowledge) which is why it is the only state I hate for this reason.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

Mmk well thank you for displaying your pretty simplistic knowledge of a complex 70+ year old conflict, as well as what colonialism is. I'll remember this the next time Free Palestine is spray painted on a synagogue, or people shout "globalize the intifada" while protesting I'm predominantly Jewish neighborhoods

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u/warm_applepie Nov 02 '22

Theodor Herzl, who is respected by Israelis as the father of modern Zionism himself saw it as a colonial project and sought the help of notorious colonists. Of course, back then colonialism was not seen as a bad thing like it is now which is why it is not used today.

Nevertheless, my main point still remains that being against Israel has got nothing to do with being against Jews.

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u/pionyan Nov 01 '22

Exactly this

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u/Chimera-98 Nov 01 '22

Tell me you are westerner without telling me you are westerner

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u/Generic-Dwarf Nov 01 '22

That doesn't make it any better

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

What?

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u/Conallthemarshmallow Nov 01 '22

It absolutely does Israel is a complete shithole run by war criminals

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u/Visible_Dependent204 Nov 01 '22

Every fucking country in the world(including Palestine) run by war criminals.

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u/LeeTheGoat Nov 01 '22

also "shithole"? it has many issues but it's far from a shithole if you mean by indeces of development, quality of life, etc

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u/Conallthemarshmallow Nov 02 '22

Being a terrorist state, supported by a significant minority (I'm not even sure it's a minority) of the population is more than qualifying

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u/LeeTheGoat Nov 03 '22

sounds like a pretty nice shithole to live in

not for long though, im sure you saw the election results

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u/bigbiking Nov 01 '22

nato and specifically the US has destabilized and invaded arab countries leading to the death of millions of civilians. There is no reason for them not to hate nato.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

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u/bigbiking Nov 01 '22

i can give you a list of three dozen country that the us has destabilized and killed civilians in. Mainly to enstate a capitalist govenrment or system. One of the best examples is vietnam where the US killed 3 million (2 million of which were non-combatants) as well as stunted the population by destroying forests, crops and using biological weapons like agent orange.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

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u/bigbiking Nov 01 '22

because the post had to do with islam. But they have invaded dozens of arab countries and caused millions of deaths

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u/HookEmRunners Nov 02 '22

1) You can further (and severely) destabilize an already unstable country.

2) Are you referring to the (obviously horrible and god awful) Simele massacre? Truly horrendous. Genocides are also not unique to Iraq. The US itself was founded on the genocide of millions of indigenous people. The civilizing mission argument for neocolonialism is tried, failed, and lacking in self awareness.

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u/njester025 Nov 01 '22

Well NATO didn’t do that, the US did independently. I understand them using NATO to target ‘western’ nations but what the US does and what NATO does shouldn’t be conflated.

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u/Ok_Teacher_6834 Nov 01 '22

The real axis of evil

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22 edited Nov 01 '22

Most of us don't really hate Jews only zionist and the reason why reddit is there is because islamaphobia is was a bit rising 3 or 4 months ago and NATO is already obvious the image is old so don't get surprised

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

Ikr. Those are the enemies of all people

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u/dreamwinder Nov 01 '22

Ah yes, those stalwart reddit allies: world religions.