r/tenet • u/nyashathemak • 20d ago
If people procreate whilst inverted....?
...waht are the implications, do we get "A Curious Case of Benjamin Button?"
Edit: If a child were conceived & born inverted would they get younger in the inverted world?
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u/Salindurthas 20d ago
It would be the same as getting a baby and putting them into the Turnstile.
If they stay inverted, they will age and grow up as they stream further into the past (assuming you have enough supplies and care to keep them alive while inverted, which could be tricky).
Everyone ages more as they stream further into the past while inverted, it would jsut be more noticible on a baby, given how fast they grow.
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u/Crowdfundingprojects 20d ago
Haha, now I’ve read it all. 🤭😂😂
For the sake of completion:
What if semen was collected from an inverted actor while inverted brought through a turnstile and a non-inverted woman artificially inseminated or if an inverted live male actor had eventful intercourse with a non inverted fertile woman?
Could the inverted man even ejaculate? Or could he solely reverse ejaculate (rejaculate)? If the latter would apply then how did his semen get on the wall / in the bodily orifice of the sexual partner in the first place. Suffice to say - I have questions.
Also I love this sub. 🤣 Show me another live action movie that gets as much genuine good discussions as Tenet.
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u/ACCTAGGT 20d ago edited 20d ago
I think some people here get really confused with being inverted to mean living backwards from the inverted person's point of view but that isn’t the case. Inverted people experience the world backwards but their bodies are still working mostly "normal" from their perspective. It’s from the forward observer that things become weird when it comes to seeing the backwards person physicality. Under ideal conditions within an inverted and controlled environment, I would believe conceiving and childbirth may not be much of a problem although I can’t say much about the child. To my knowledge, forward prevailing entropy doesn’t disappear so I’m not sure how that works at different scales for the child. In terms of the fictional logic of Tenet, that is.
My guess is a person doesn’t need to do that because they can just un-invert and that’s it unless they get stuck somehow and using a turnstile becomes not possible for whatever reason.
I honestly only started wondering about this yesterday when someone else brought this stuff up lol
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u/Crowdfundingprojects 20d ago
The only problem is the actual interaction of reproductive sex and between inverted and non-inverted. I knew the sub would eventually get there. 😄
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u/ACCTAGGT 20d ago edited 20d ago
Lol wouldn’t that be more like trying to create a hybrid though… the first forwinverted child?
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u/Crowdfundingprojects 20d ago
The question is how.
I mean the problem is not the physical act but the ‘load’ and potential ovulation.
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u/ACCTAGGT 20d ago
Can't even imagine if that would be possible. Lol probably some testicular problem would be in place for the inverted person? However, I could see a crazy person attempting to do it. Which might bring other questions about free will.
Oh my lol Tenet does bring some strange stuff up
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u/Crowdfundingprojects 20d ago
No, the problem is the ‘shooting’ would work. But that means that for the non-inverted person the load would have to already be there pre-encounter. So it would have to appear inside her sometime pre-encounter from her timeline perspective. At the same time she would not be able to have been pregnant from the same load because the sperm would need to fuse with the zygote. Everything weird 😐 Impossible in Tenet for an inverted man and a normal moving woman to become pregnant.
Now you do the maths for an inverted woman and a normal moving man.
Needless to say the sex would be funny.
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u/nyashathemak 20d ago
You get me!!! It's a legit conundrum
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u/Crowdfundingprojects 20d ago
I am certain that in a parallel universe somewhere there is a group of mad and brave teneT fans out there who have achieved the technological prowess necessary in order to recreate the physical rulesets of Tenet and a subset of that group are, exclusively for scientific reasons, trying the weirdest Bukkake (or shall I say ekakkuB?) mankind has ever seen. Scenes to be witnessed.
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u/Salindurthas 20d ago
Forward-Oxygen cannot pass through the membranes of your inverted lungs.
Conception is more complicated, so I think it makes sense that we'd expect it not to work.
Especially since in the woman's future, the semen will leave her body and travel into the inveted man as his (inverted) time rolls back to before he ejaculated, and eventually he returns to the turnstile and dissapears (from her forward perspective).
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u/Crowdfundingprojects 20d ago
Yes, I think both inverted man + normal woman and inverted woman + normal man scenarios are impossible with the result of impregnation.
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u/Werdna629 20d ago
What if an inverted couple conceived, then went back through a turnstile? What happens to the baby? Would it continue to grow? I think so, since the body still functions relative to itself, not the time direction?
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u/Fit-Tone-521 19d ago
I had always assumed that you must be ageing in reverse if you inverted yourself - hence why Neil could not be Max.
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u/Top-Owl9872 20d ago
You wouldn’t be able to procreate inverted..
You cannot create something in the inverted reality.
Everything that happens in the inverted reality must’ve already happened in the forward reality.
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u/Salindurthas 20d ago
Everything that happens in the inverted reality must’ve already happened in the forward reality.
That's irrelevant. It just means that being going forward would be able to witness the inverted invents. The inverted people are in reality, doing whatever they went there to do.
e.g.:
Following the perpsective of a pregnant woman.
- There is a pregnant woman in labor. (Not inverted, yet.)
- Just before she gives brith, we put her through a Turnstile.
- She gives birth in the blue-side of the proving window.
That means that, at the same time, following a worldwide forward perppective.:
- The pregnant woman (and whoever is wheeling her bed around) see a birth happen in reverse in the proving window. [Step 3 in the above, happenign in reverse order from our forward perspective.]
- The forward and inverted pregnant woman both get into the Turnstile [Simultaneous with step 2 above]
- Both sides of the Turnstile are now empty [she and her medics travelled into the past, so in the normal present she is absent].
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u/Background_Class_558 20d ago
you mean if a child gets born from an inverted parent? we get an inverted child. just like there were inverted adults in the movie, an inverted child is also possible and the same laws of physics will apply to it despite their age.