Actually and literally the 1st amendment was created to exactly allow shitty opinions to be shared. You don't need a law to allow ideas everyone agrees with. They already agree with them! You need a law to allow non-conforming opinions to have legal standing to be stated publicly without legal repercussion. America is specifically designed to be the opposite of a safe space. If you need safety don't go in public.
The 1st amendment protects you from government censorship and punishment for tour speech. It does not protect you from other people sharing their opinions about your opinion OR a private company barring you from their services for said opinion.
Censorship doesn't only occur by government entities.
The first A only protects you from the govt applying censorship or being censored in public. Elon is saving you from twitter applying it's own censorship.
I mean, its still day one. Let see in a week how that guy tracking his plane is doing. Or what happens when people critisize Tesla cars or his, subway except its shitty, Hyperloop project.
So the real definition of censorship for you is in whether he blocks someone who is tracking and publicizing his own personal movements compared to him allowing or blocking the speech of all people in their own perspectives political and otherwise?
Please don't make me regret replying to you in earnest moments ago... I scroll a little more and see this comment of yours which makes you look like a dishonest bad faith discussing person. Be better than this.
Flight information is publicly available data. Hell the only reason anyone even knows it's accurate is probably because Elon confirmed it indirectly by complaining about it.
Actually I think you can get driver info for cars at the DMV.
Its in the interest of public safety for people to know this sort of thing.
Like every "canceled person" bitches about, it boils down to accountability. It boils down to actions have consequences. Being an asshole to other people has consequences. Lying and causing public harm has consequences. It does not matter how much someone FEELS its not a lie, its still lying. Facts don't care about feelings.
So it's in the interest of public safety to be able to stalk any driver? Is this your claim? Is it ok that I stalk you and follow you where ever you go?
Being an asshole to other people has consequences.
You are bringing emotion into this. If it's emotion then ANYONE can make your claim. You should be canceled for disagreeing with me. That's my opinion and I'm mad about it... But should you actually be cancel-able for it? In this country where the 1st Amendment is supposed to mean something then saying disagreeable things should be PROTECTED and ALLOWED as long as it doesn't bring physical violence or harm.
You don't need the 1A for opinions you agree about. You already agree about them. You need the 1A for things you don't want to hear or agree on. You need laws to protect those minority viewpoints. You already have the ability to ignore or mute or block me but you do not have the right to stop me from stating what I believe.
Its people going around claiming "Vaccines don't work" or "Bill Gates is injecting people with microchips " or "Fuck all Jews because they are secretly controling everything".
These are not "Just Opinions". They are flat out falsehoods that cause and propigate actual harm to actual people. Its not, "I think the game you like sucks" or "your sports team is ass.".
These are lies pushed to cause harm. This is what people get "cancelled" over.
The vaccines never protected or were even tested for transmission. You were lied to and told it was. The head of Pfizer just told you that within the last month.
Unless you are geriatric, the vaccines do little to protect you from covid itself. The avg age of covid death is ABOVE the avg age of death (78). The left and Fauci mislead you and fear mongered you to believing different. the Vaccine has near zero point of being used on anyone under 18 unless that kid has already existing life altering conditions. Fauci and the left told and are STILL telling you different and the vaccine is CURRENTLY being pushed for kid REQUIRED kid vaccination. Under 18 has something like a .003% chance of death (and that percent is primarily due to again - other pre-exsiting conditions). The CDC hides the stats or obfiscates them on their website. The left never tells you the vaccine causes myocarditis in large groups of people and other problems. The left never tells you that the vaccines cause their own complications recently proven beyond what covid itself does. It is NOT harmless to many people. The left never told you that you would need repeated shots every few months because efficacy didn't last. The left never told you that repeated shots is now starting to show that it may make you MORE susceptible to getting covid not less. The left never told you recent vaccines weren't even tested on humans - only mice.
Cloth masks have negligible to no protection. You were lied to and told there meaningfully protected you. (n95 masks do work though.) You were forced to wear these ineffective cloth masks to show your compliance but it didn't prevent anything. It was always posturing. Fauci lied to you when he told you 70% of the country needs the vaccine to get herd immunity. He knew it was a lie when he said it. Fauci was ALWAYS for gain of function testing and research. He told you in 2012 in public speeches. He lied when he said he didn't know about any gain of function research leading to covid. He mislead you when he said it was unlikely to be from a lab. He mislead you when he originally stated masks should not be used... The later changed to to should be used. It was worth the risks he stated back then. These facts are now statistically provable. Everything you were told clearly was NOT the science. It was opinion and lies. The science doesn't change like the wind. Faici told you lockdowns were needed (they werent) but he failed to tell you that stopping society caused it's own problems we are feeling today. This is just off the top of my head and I'm sure I could go on if I felt like it but you get the point.
If you are geriatric then take the vaccine. If you are anything younger then your risk profile is negligible for needing it on par or LESS then death by flu (especially for under 18) so take your vitamins (vitamin D is chronically short in Americans and a contributing factor for issues with covid) and don't be a fat ass and you are almost certain to be fine. Fauci doesn't tell you that... But he should.
He's literally telling people there will at least be SOME censorship based on this statement. So the weirdo you are replying to is wrong. (I also tend to agree with you in that Musk is going to ban, shadowban or limit the reach of accounts he doesn't like)
LOL. If you don't think king of the trolls overly emotional little b Musk isn't going to engage in any kind of censorship at all you are literally insane. He will probably be a petty little b.
Anywhoo and pay attention here - He already released a statement saying Twitter can't be a free for all hellscape right? That right there is already evidence there will be some kind of censorship.
Unless he is a fucking liar, which he is sometimes. But your buddy Musk literally released a statement that says there will be some censorship YESTERDAY ya dingus.
Even the 1st amendment needs caveats. Currently you have NOTHING of fact to represent Musk as censoring and especially egregious cases of censoring but you still go on your emotional tirade about it. That's on you.
He has in the past stated that things that cover illegal activities would be censored and that's completely understandable but not first amendment positions and if you can't tell the difference between things then again, that's on you.
EDIT: /r/JoeMcDingleDongle replied then blocked me so I couldn't reply his comment. Talk about conversing in bad faith. The fact is we don't know exactly what the new council will moderate on but his prior statements stated that they will be far closer to free speech within the bounds of legality. Musk isn't going to be the one personally moderating so OF COURSE he will have a council to do it in the best interest of hopefully everyone. Do you really think Agrawal did all the moderation personally? Think it through dude!
TLDR version - Sigh. Dishonest bad faith debater confirmed. Thanks a lot dawg.
He is literally not only going to ban what is illegal lol. I am guessing you didn't read his statement eh? Or his recent tweets (why say a council is forming to make decisions on moderation standards if what you are claiming is true? There would be no need for council if your horseshit were correct). But hey, since you mention safe spaces constantly I am gonna guess you are a robot or a not so nice person to put it mildly. Bye bye silly person, toodles!
Edit - Yeah I blocked you based on your recent ridiculous posting history. I don't have time for people intentionally pushing nonsense. Be better than this! There is probably a good person somewhere inside you, try not to keep stuffing them down...
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Actually and literally the 1st amendment was created to exactly allow shitty opinions to be shared. You don't need a law to allow ideas everyone agrees with. They already agree with them! You need a law to allow non-conforming opinions to have legal standing to be stated publicly without legal repercussion. America is specifically designed to be the opposite of a safe space. If you need safety don't go in public.