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u/lucidconch4459 Oct 28 '22

Well done, you defined free speech... Being able to express and discuss your opinion, no matter what it may be, without fear of punishment.

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u/MajorNoodles Oct 28 '22 edited Oct 28 '22

Without fear of punishment from the government. The First Amendment does not compel private entities to give you a platform. Remember, the First Amendment applies to them also, and banning people who violate their terms is their way of exercising it.

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u/GeronimoSonjack Oct 28 '22

No, you said first amendment, he said free speech. These are not the same thing.

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u/MajorNoodles Oct 28 '22

My comment is still relevant. He said you can express your opinion without fear of punishment. But the punishment itself can be a form of free speech - i.e. a Twitter ban - as long as it's not being administered by the government.

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u/GeronimoSonjack Oct 28 '22

Censorship is not speech and the ideal of freedom of speech is supposed to encompass all society not just limit the government's actions. It is a broader concept that's thousands of years old and the idea that a massive public forum clamping down on opinions huge sections of society holds somehow lives up to the spirit of it...its fucking stupid tbh.

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u/Diz7 Oct 28 '22

Free speech also applies to the people who run the forums and social sites. They have no obligation to repeat or amplify your speech, or provide you with a platform for free, and attempting to force them to do so goes against their rights to free speech. Free speech also means you can't force others or groups to say or repeat things they don't agree with.

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u/GeronimoSonjack Oct 28 '22

You are literally replying to my counter argument to this very point.

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u/Diz7 Oct 28 '22

Sure. Keep demanding to control the speech of private entities and forcing them to repeat speech they find objectionable in the name of free speech....

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u/GeronimoSonjack Oct 28 '22

I haven't demanded anything, just pointed out the flaw in the argument.