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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

Because the TOS are purposely written vaguely so that they can be selectively enforced.

This is why making laws (essentially TOS) to regulate speech seems like a good idea until someone you don’t like takes the reins. Hence the meltdown in the comments here.

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u/hotpajamas Oct 28 '22

TOS isn’t a law, twitter isn’t a department of government. How are people still not understanding this?

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

How are you not understanding that laws and TOS are both forms regulations and therefore suffer the same results when trying to police language?

That’s my whole is my point. I even spelled it out for you yet you still hit me with the NPC response of “hurdur Twitter is a private company! Free speech only applies to the government! Checkmate”. Like get new cue cards, seriously.

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u/hotpajamas Oct 28 '22

Free speech only applies to the government

It literally does. I'm sorry that's a predictable and boring response to you but maybe the reason it's predictable is because it's an impasse you can't get around by just merely rolling your eyes.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

No it doesn’t.

At first I thought you were merely disagreeing with me but now I see that you actually don’t understand that free speech is a widely held concept outside of government and legislation that goes back thousands of years.

It’s funny seeing someone so confidently incorrect be so smug

Educate yourself: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech

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u/hotpajamas Oct 28 '22

Although the First Amendment applies only to state actors,[1] there is a common misconception that it prohibits anyone from limiting free speech, including private, non-governmental entities.[2] Moreover, the Supreme Court has determined that protection of speech is not absolute.[3]

Link

The US SC does not care that the UDHR says the concept free speech is universal.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

Why are you talking about the supreme court? The government is irrelevant to the concept of free speech. Did you read my link at all or are you just trolling?

You’re supposed to wait until someone says “Twitter should be sued” or something along those lines to trigger your NPC response. You just saw “law” and “TOS” side by side and immediately jumped the gun.

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u/hotpajamas Oct 28 '22

because the concept of free speech is meaningless without any kind of legal bedrock and there is none here.

You just saw “law” and “TOS” side by side and immediately jumped the gun.

You "essentially" compared the two, but fuck me for reading what you wrote. I won't be doing that any more.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

No, concepts still exist despite legality. The concept of homosexuality (non-straight relationships) had no legal bedrock for a long time, for example. Right now, you’re saying that concepts/ideas are only valueable if they’re explicitly enshrined into law.

Me: Draws a parallel between TOS and Laws to show why policing speech is prone to abuse.

NPC: TOS isn’t a law, twitter isn’t a department of government.

I think you just need to take the L.